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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 13, 2021 22:57:31 GMT -5
Schedule
5/25 USA vs Dominican Republic 11:00 AM CT Thread5/26 USA vs Canada 12:30 PM CT 5/27 USA vs Brazil 2:00 PM CT 5/31 USA vs Serbia 12:30 PM CT 6/1 USA vs Netherlands 11:00 AM CT 6/2 USA vs Thailand 5:00 AM CT 6/6 USA vs Germany 12:30 PM CT 6/7 USA vs Korea 9:00 AM CT 6/8 USA vs Italy 12:30 PM CT 6/12 USA vs Belgium 8:00 AM CT 6/13 USA vs Japan 5:00 AM CT 6/14 USA vs Turkey 2:00 PM CT
6/18 USA vs Poland 11:00 AM CT
6/19 USA vs Russia 5:00 AM CT
6/20 USA vs China 5:00 AM CT Based on the schedule, I'm really intrigued to see how Karch and the coaching staff mix in all of the 18 players if they're only picking 14 for each week. I don't see any big "cupcake" weeks except maybe Week 2? So I bet we'll see mixes of the main Olympic competitors and the players fighting for spots. Week 3 is pretty easy too. I've bolded the matches I think would be competitive (DR, BRA, TUR, POL, RUS, CHN) |
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Post by basil on May 13, 2021 22:58:21 GMT -5
Yup 3rd MB race and libero race will be the tightest. Washington vs. Dixon JWO vs. CourtneyWatch out JWO's defense vs. Courtney's .... ability to feed Zhu Ting and Zhang Changning overpasses?
tough choice. real tough choice. I mean...if JWO struggles with passing during this tournament? I kick and scream about the defense too, but Courtney was solid at passing all summer outside of one bad match against China to my memory. I hope JWO pulls it out but it's still an interesting debate. |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 13, 2021 23:06:03 GMT -5
JWO's defense vs. Courtney's .... ability to feed Zhu Ting and Zhang Changning overpasses?
tough choice. real tough choice. I mean...if JWO struggles with passing during this tournament? I kick and scream about the defense too, but Courtney was solid at passing all summer outside of one bad match against China to my memory. I hope JWO pulls it out but it's still an interesting debate. The problem with that logic is that the match against China was (a) kind of a key match and (b) the only match against a strong, consistent team at the world cup. Italy and Serbia serve just as hard. JWO was subbed in and was pretty solid. Granted, being a starter and coming in from the bench is different.
So unless if Courtney has substantially improved her reception, I wouldn't trust it. And the match with China in the VNL won't help (with regards to evaluating her). If she's in the reception line I doubt Jenny would tell her players to serve at Courtney. Maybe even intentionally avoid her on serve.
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Post by basil on May 13, 2021 23:13:15 GMT -5
I mean...if JWO struggles with passing during this tournament? I kick and scream about the defense too, but Courtney was solid at passing all summer outside of one bad match against China to my memory. I hope JWO pulls it out but it's still an interesting debate. The problem with that logic is that the match against China was (a) kind of a key match and (b) the only match against a strong, consistent team at the world cup. Italy and Serbia serve just as hard. JWO was subbed in and was pretty solid. Granted, being a starter and coming in from the bench is different.
So unless if Courtney has substantially improved her reception, I wouldn't trust it. And the match with China in the VNL won't help (with regards to evaluating her). If she's in the reception line I doubt Jenny would tell her players to serve at Courtney. Maybe even intentionally avoid her on serve. Fair. I'll be interested to see how she does this time around (if she gets more playing time over JWO). |
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on May 13, 2021 23:13:44 GMT -5
You know what. I’m not over Karsta not going. I demand a recount and bud light lemonade seltzer or 5 Yikes! That's a horrible thing to do to lemonade and seltzer. The Bud Light you can just pour in the toilet. |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 13, 2021 23:14:37 GMT -5
The problem with that logic is that the match against China was (a) kind of a key match and (b) the only match against a strong, consistent team at the world cup. Italy and Serbia serve just as hard. JWO was subbed in and was pretty solid. Granted, being a starter and coming in from the bench is different.
So unless if Courtney has substantially improved her reception, I wouldn't trust it. And the match with China in the VNL won't help (with regards to evaluating her). If she's in the reception line I doubt Jenny would tell her players to serve at Courtney. Maybe even intentionally avoid her on serve. Fair. I'll be interested to see how she does this time around (if she gets more playing time over JWO). Oh me too, I'm also interested in seeing who Karchy is gonna give more playing time to... |
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Post by basil on May 13, 2021 23:15:32 GMT -5
Based on the schedule, I'm really intrigued to see how Karch and the coaching staff mix in all of the 18 players if they're only picking 14 for each week. I don't see any big "cupcake" weeks except maybe Week 2? So I bet we'll see mixes of the main Olympic competitors and the players fighting for spots. Week 3 is pretty easy too. I've bolded the matches I think would be competitive (DR, BRA, TUR, POL, RUS, CHN) Imagine how much more competitive this tournament would be, especially at the mid tier, if De Kruijf was with the Netherlands, Wolosz was with Poland, and if Heyrman/Van Hecke decided to play with their national team for once...Also if Serbia and Italy brought their "A" teams *sigh* |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 13, 2021 23:18:55 GMT -5
Week 3 is pretty easy too. I've bolded the matches I think would be competitive (DR, BRA, TUR, POL, RUS, CHN) Imagine how much more competitive this tournament would be, especially at the mid tier, if De Kruijf was with the Netherlands, Wolosz was with Poland, and if Heyrman/Van Hecke decided to play with their national team for once...Also if Serbia and Italy brought their "A" teams *sigh* FIVB needs to incorporate the VNL directly into the qualifying cycle for Olympics and World Championships in order for teams to take it seriously.
Imagine if the top x finishers get a spot in the World Championships? I bet some teams would be more incentivized to take it seriously, like the world cup in 2015 and before!
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Post by basil on May 13, 2021 23:22:22 GMT -5
Also, maybe Russia pulls something together? I just looked at their training roster and if Goncharova's playing well, they have Kosheleva back and Parubets is on the list too with Koroleva and Fetisova. Plus there's the youngster Federotseva (that might be spelled wrong). I still think they play too slow for the modern game and are a little outdated but they could make some matches interesting? Pool B could be even more fun than I thought.
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Post by n00b on May 13, 2021 23:25:22 GMT -5
Imagine how much more competitive this tournament would be, especially at the mid tier, if De Kruijf was with the Netherlands, Wolosz was with Poland, and if Heyrman/Van Hecke decided to play with their national team for once...Also if Serbia and Italy brought their "A" teams *sigh* FIVB needs to incorporate the VNL directly into the qualifying cycle for Olympics and World Championships in order for teams to take it seriously.
Imagine if the top x finishers get a spot in the World Championships? I bet some teams would be more incentivized to take it seriously, like the world cup in 2015 and before!
Why? Do any other sports have an important annual competition that is separate from Olympics and World Championships? |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 13, 2021 23:31:07 GMT -5
FIVB needs to incorporate the VNL directly into the qualifying cycle for Olympics and World Championships in order for teams to take it seriously.
Imagine if the top x finishers get a spot in the World Championships? I bet some teams would be more incentivized to take it seriously, like the world cup in 2015 and before!
Why? Do any other sports have an important annual competition that is separate from Olympics and World Championships? No, but if FIVB wants VNL to be taken seriously, that's what they need to do.
I'm not suggesting that it's a good thing one way or the other.
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on May 13, 2021 23:32:35 GMT -5
Also, maybe Russia pulls something together? I just looked at their training roster and if Goncharova's playing well, they have Kosheleva back and Parubets is on the list too with Koroleva and Fetisova. Plus there's the youngster Federotseva (that might be spelled wrong). I still think they play too slow for the modern game and are a little outdated but they could make some matches interesting? Pool B could be even more fun than I thought. Not sure if Parubets can play. If she can then maybe they can do something.
If they can't then their reception is a mess and NONE of the teams in Pool B are weak serving teams...
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Post by newbeach on May 13, 2021 23:53:26 GMT -5
FIVB needs to incorporate the VNL directly into the qualifying cycle for Olympics and World Championships in order for teams to take it seriously.
Imagine if the top x finishers get a spot in the World Championships? I bet some teams would be more incentivized to take it seriously, like the world cup in 2015 and before!
Why? Do any other sports have an important annual competition that is separate from Olympics and World Championships? Golf, hockey, tennis, football, baseball…😉 |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 1:51:58 GMT -5
Based on the schedule, I'm really intrigued to see how Karch and the coaching staff mix in all of the 18 players if they're only picking 14 for each week. I don't see any big "cupcake" weeks except maybe Week 2? So I bet we'll see mixes of the main Olympic competitors and the players fighting for spots. Week 3 is pretty easy too. I've bolded the matches I think would be competitive (DR, BRA, TUR, POL, RUS, CHN) Serbia won’t be a complete pushover especially with Drca, Busa, Bjelica, Rasić and M. Popović on the roster. Passing will be a mess but it always is with this team. Also, everyone is so quick to write off the Dutch. They have all of their best players on the wide roster, including DeKruijf, and a returning “new” coach. They also have young talent that is looking pretty good these days. I could honestly see them and Russia making the top 4. Parubets has recovered and is back with the team training. Russia will also be at full strength. This will definitely be the most solid iteration of this tournament we have seen since it’s inception IMO. Don’t forget, Italy could use the 6 substitutions in week 3 and bring on some of the A team. Hell, their B/C team will likely push/defeat some of the full strenght teams. They have some good depth. Week 2 is not a cupcake week. Week 3 won’t be either. Germany is improving vastly. It will all come down to who is setting since Hanke retired. Kästner and Imodu are both solid options. I just wanted to share some thoughts. 😊 |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2021 2:01:42 GMT -5
Hold up.
I don’t see Gabi for Brazil or DeKruijf for the Netherlands on the rosters post at the top of the thread.
Are they not going to be present?
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