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Post by donut on Apr 26, 2021 17:45:21 GMT -5
You edited/added the Slay stats. Slay would have struggled if UK was in system. Saying "good teams prep and know where good passes are going" is silly considering 1) how deceptive Lilley is, and 2) how good she is at moving the ball around. It's kind of the big reason their offense works so well. No credit at all for Curry? You and Madden act as though Lilley is a team all to herself. Aw, you found your inner troll again  (Discussing UK's in-system excellence is a major credit to Curry. And please don't group us.) |
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Apr 26, 2021 17:47:47 GMT -5
No credit at all for Curry? You and Madden act as though Lilley is a team all to herself. Aw, you found your inner troll again (Discussing UK's in-system excellence is a major credit to Curry. And please don't group us.) I'd have to look through the pages but I don't remember any of you giving credit to Curry. If we didn't know better, Lilley was a passing and setting dual-threat. |
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Post by donut on Apr 26, 2021 17:50:27 GMT -5
Aw, you found your inner troll again (Discussing UK's in-system excellence is a major credit to Curry. And please don't group us.) I'd have to look through the pages but I don't remember any of you giving credit to Curry. If we didn't know better, Lilley was a passing and setting dual-threat. This is such a weird thing to troll about. Curry is one of the 2 best liberos in the country, and a major reason for UK’s success. Happy? |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 26, 2021 17:53:40 GMT -5
You missed the point and also cherry picked one small point. The idea put out there was slay would somehow be lost and in over her head. She as am all-American who averaged 1.58 blocks and hit .400. I think we would have found away to keep her head above water. Nobody is getting pin as a blocker vs Lilley and their passing regardless of foot speed. You edited/added the Slay stats. Slay would have struggled if UK was in system. Saying "good teams prep and know where good passes are going" is silly considering 1) how deceptive Lilley is, and 2) how good she is at moving the ball around. It's kind of the big reason their offense works so well. Your accusing me of saying something that I actually never said. Let’s start by acknowledging that in no way whatsoever did I say “good teams prep and know where good passes are going” or anything even remotely close to that. if you’re going to use quotes, quote accurately and for good heavens don’t completely alter a quote. Here is the actual quote you botched/altered to say something totally different “A Big part of opponent prep vs teams that go quick is making a pre determined decision on where MIDDLES are going to go on great passes” My point was that because of the reasons you accurately point out about lilley and UK passing, middles get toasted if they’re reading, reacting and trying to get to attackers. In those situations you send a middle to the attacker you feel can most hurt you, and do the best you can 1 on 1 if the ball doesn’t go there. Like I stated initially, you missed my point and now attempted to alter my point by a really bad misquote |
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Post by bbg95 on Apr 26, 2021 17:54:02 GMT -5
Kathryn Plummer would have something to say about that. When Kentucky's offense is clicking, they side out at like 70% or something like that. Even Plummer can't do that. I don't think posters truly appreciate that UK's offense is a machine. The only way to really beat them is to 1) service pressure, which is hard given their passing, or 2) out score them. Different coaches have tried to do what UK did (USA NT, Minnesota), and UK perfected it. I think due to service pressure, the Nebraska teams would pose the biggest threat to UK. Edit: Also, I'm largely trolling here. Just not surprised Stanford fans are chomping at the bit to make these comparisons though. Yeah, I think that because Kentucky wasn't taken that seriously in some parts right up until they won the title, there is some residual disrespect now when talking about how they would stack up with other recent title teams. Kentucky's offense is so good that I think they would have a chance against anyone. Would they beat any/all of them? Who knows? But I definitely think they are an elite team even by the standards of other champions. |
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Post by Timeless on Apr 26, 2021 17:54:12 GMT -5
2013 Hancock > Spring 2021 Kentucky easily.
Hancock had an elite collegiate serve. Gabi Garcia Fernandez (BYU men's volleyball) has that same affect in a match.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Apr 26, 2021 17:56:33 GMT -5
I'd have to look through the pages but I don't remember any of you giving credit to Curry. If we didn't know better, Lilley was a passing and setting dual-threat. This is such a weird thing to troll about. Curry is one of the 2 best liberos in the country, and a major reason for UK’s success. Happy? Yes. She deserves recognition. |
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Post by donut on Apr 26, 2021 18:01:10 GMT -5
You edited/added the Slay stats. Slay would have struggled if UK was in system. Saying "good teams prep and know where good passes are going" is silly considering 1) how deceptive Lilley is, and 2) how good she is at moving the ball around. It's kind of the big reason their offense works so well. Your accusing me of saying something that I actually never said. Let’s start by acknowledging that in no way whatsoever did I say “good teams prep and know where good passes are going” or anything even remotely close to that. if you’re going to use quotes, quote accurately and for good heavens don’t completely alter a quote. My point was that because if the obvious reason you point out about lilley and UK passing, middles get toasted if they’re reading, reacting and trying to get to attackers. In those situations you send a middle to the attacker you feel can most hurt you, and do the best you can 1 on 1 if the ball doesn’t go there. Like I stated initially, you missed my point and now attempted to alter my point by a really bad misquote lol I directly quoted you, responded to that quote, and then you told me I was cherry-picking data because you went back and edited your post to include more Slay stats. I'm going to take that to mean you knew your initial point (word-for-word because you can't handle a paraphrase: "Big part of opponent prep vs teams that go quick is making a pre determined decision on where middles are going to go on great passes") was dumb, especially in the context for providing support for why Slay would do well against UK. If you weren't providing support for Slay, then you were truly just making a random point about scouting/volleyball, which is honestly worse. |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Apr 26, 2021 18:02:37 GMT -5
With this talk about Albrecht and Stumler one needs to remember Albrecht only played 6 rotations her senior year and back row the first three years. Watching Lilley dig all those balls reminded me of Hunter and PSU when she had 23 digs in the semi final. Madi Skinner reminded me of another Freshman in 2015 who had a great match against Texas. I actually think Skinner’s performance is even more impressive considering she didn’t spend most of the time hitting at 5’6 Collins and she was out of position. |
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Post by cbrown1709 on Apr 26, 2021 19:33:19 GMT -5
I'd have to look through the pages but I don't remember any of you giving credit to Curry. If we didn't know better, Lilley was a passing and setting dual-threat. This is such a weird thing to troll about. Curry is one of the 2 best liberos in the country, and a major reason for UK’s success. Happy? Not that she is Curry, but Walker impressed me at times. Next UK libero? |
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Post by donut on Apr 26, 2021 19:36:20 GMT -5
This is such a weird thing to troll about. Curry is one of the 2 best liberos in the country, and a major reason for UK’s success. Happy? Not that she is Curry, but Walker impressed me at times. Next UK libero? Skinner has Beavin, Walker and Tharp to chose from. I think our back row will be fine. |
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Post by andrewwmic on Apr 26, 2021 20:51:09 GMT -5
With this talk about Albrecht and Stumler one needs to remember Albrecht only played 6 rotations her senior year and back row the first three years. Watching Lilley dig all those balls reminded me of Hunter and PSU when she had 23 digs in the semi final. Madi Skinner reminded me of another Freshman in 2015 who had a great match against Texas. why do we need to compare all the Kentucky players to Nebraska players of the past. lol but aren’t you the one who literally asked how this uk team would COMPARE to past champions? |
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Post by ilikecorn on Apr 26, 2021 20:52:57 GMT -5
why do we need to compare all the Kentucky players to Nebraska players of the past. lol but aren’t you the one who literally asked how this uk team would COMPARE to past champions?  |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 26, 2021 22:02:21 GMT -5
Your accusing me of saying something that I actually never said. Let’s start by acknowledging that in no way whatsoever did I say “good teams prep and know where good passes are going” or anything even remotely close to that. if you’re going to use quotes, quote accurately and for good heavens don’t completely alter a quote. My point was that because if the obvious reason you point out about lilley and UK passing, middles get toasted if they’re reading, reacting and trying to get to attackers. In those situations you send a middle to the attacker you feel can most hurt you, and do the best you can 1 on 1 if the ball doesn’t go there. Like I stated initially, you missed my point and now attempted to alter my point by a really bad misquote lol I directly quoted you, responded to that quote, and then you told me I was cherry-picking data because you went back and edited your post to include more Slay stats. I'm going to take that to mean you knew your initial point (word-for-word because you can't handle a paraphrase: "Big part of opponent prep vs teams that go quick is making a pre determined decision on where middles are going to go on great passes") was dumb, especially in the context for providing support for why Slay would do well against UK. If you weren't providing support for Slay, then you were truly just making a random point about scouting/volleyball, which is honestly worse. . If you’re saying you directly quoted me, you are either a liar or can’t read. It would take you or anyone 10 seconds to prove that. How you changed the quote literally changes the point entirely. I also NEVER said Slay would do well vs Kentucky and another ten seconds of reading g would unequivocally prove that. In fact I said no middle would have success against their passing and setting REGARDLESS of foot speed. If you or anyone else took 1 minute to go back and read what I posted you would know 2 things,as clear as day, 1. you completely misquoted me, 2. I never said Slay would have success vs the setting and passing of Kentucky. I’d be happy to debate why I think PSU 2013 could beat Kentucky, but you’d need to respond to what I actually said and not argue things I NEVER said, or alter things I did. |
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