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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 24, 2021 7:51:05 GMT -5
After watching the Wisconsin match now for a fourth time, I really want Salima to be successful as a commentator, but it’s p a I n f u l l y obvious Paul is trying so diligently to pull her into a conversation and to have an opinion about - stuff. Bless her heart though she’s just such a diplomat. I do like Paul, but I wish he were more aware of his sexism and chauvinistic dominance. You say he’s pulling Salima in, but I think his ego dominates too much of the flow. That mess with the challenge in the Kentucky-Washington match was so much bravado it was gag worthy (and homeboy was wrong). Dominant male personalities often crowd out meaningful participation from others. I get that there’s a whole dynamic thing going on, but I could use a little less of Paul’s ego. Can dominate female personalities crowd out meaningful participation from others? |
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 24, 2021 7:58:14 GMT -5
Im so unsurprised by this Final. Anyone who didn’t play in the fall didn’t have a chance unless they were riding on experience (Wisconsin/Washington) and even then, the teams that played the fall season just had the upperhand from the get go So you're trying to flip the narrative from back in the fall. At that time, the general consensus was the teams playing in the fall would be at a disadvantage in the tournament. |
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Post by utexrulz23 on Apr 24, 2021 7:59:24 GMT -5
I do like Paul, but I wish he were more aware of his sexism and chauvinistic dominance. You say he’s pulling Salima in, but I think his ego dominates too much of the flow. That mess with the challenge in the Kentucky-Washington match was so much bravado it was gag worthy (and homeboy was wrong). Dominant male personalities often crowd out meaningful participation from others. I get that there’s a whole dynamic thing going on, but I could use a little less of Paul’s ego. Can dominate female personalities crowd out meaningful participation from others? What’s the point of this question? An attempt at a “reverse sexism” argument? Ugh. But when there is a culture of sexism, a “dominant female” is likely not crowding out anything but creating space for herself. What a waste of a comment. |
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Post by eazy on Apr 24, 2021 8:01:46 GMT -5
Can dominate female personalities crowd out meaningful participation from others? What a waste of a comment. Oh honey, if you think this is a waste of a comment.. You must be new here. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 24, 2021 8:11:28 GMT -5
Im so unsurprised by this Final. Anyone who didn’t play in the fall didn’t have a chance unless they were riding on experience (Wisconsin/Washington) and even then, the teams that played the fall season just had the upperhand from the get go So you're trying to flip the narrative from back in the fall. At that time, the general consensus was the teams playing in the fall would be at a disadvantage in the tournament. Did people really believe playing in the fall would be a disadvantage? |
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Post by diggerdive on Apr 24, 2021 8:12:42 GMT -5
After watching the Wisconsin match now for a fourth time, I really want Salima to be successful as a commentator, but it’s p a I n f u l l y obvious Paul is trying so diligently to pull her into a conversation and to have an opinion about - stuff. Bless her heart though she’s just such a diplomat. I do like Paul, but I wish he were more aware of his sexism and chauvinistic dominance. You say he’s pulling Salima in, but I think his ego dominates too much of the flow. That mess with the challenge in the Kentucky-Washington match was so much bravado it was gag worthy (and homeboy was wrong). Dominant male personalities often crowd out meaningful participation from others. I get that there’s a whole dynamic thing going on, but I could use a little less of Paul’s ego. I don’t agree with your take on Paul - and that’s okay . I miss Nell. They had chemistry and were amazing together. To me Paul is a gentleman but very enthusiastic and looking to mix things up to keep it interesting. And believe-you-me Nell would put him in his place LOL |
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Post by Longhorn20 on Apr 24, 2021 8:15:55 GMT -5
So you're trying to flip the narrative from back in the fall. At that time, the general consensus was the teams playing in the fall would be at a disadvantage in the tournament. Did people really believe playing in the fall would be a disadvantage? Yes at least in the Big 12. But nobody knew how bad the B1G and PAC would be affected by COVID. More than fall vs. spring, I think Texas and UK benefited from relatively uninterrupted conference seasons. |
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Post by utexrulz23 on Apr 24, 2021 8:21:51 GMT -5
What a waste of a comment. Oh honey, if you think this is a waste of a comment.. You must be new here. Please spare me with the sexist language. K? |
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Post by utexrulz23 on Apr 24, 2021 8:24:36 GMT -5
I do like Paul, but I wish he were more aware of his sexism and chauvinistic dominance. You say he’s pulling Salima in, but I think his ego dominates too much of the flow. That mess with the challenge in the Kentucky-Washington match was so much bravado it was gag worthy (and homeboy was wrong). Dominant male personalities often crowd out meaningful participation from others. I get that there’s a whole dynamic thing going on, but I could use a little less of Paul’s ego. I don’t agree with your take on Paul - and that’s okay . I miss Nell. They had chemistry and were amazing together. To me Paul is a gentleman but very enthusiastic and looking to mix things up to keep it interesting. And believe-you-me Nell would put him in his place LOL It is okay. And honestly I’ve not really noticed it much before. I just thought it was particularly evident on Thursday and I legitimately thought of what an expert Salima is and how it must be exhausting to play the sidekick. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 8:31:27 GMT -5
Kentucky better win today because my day has now been ruined after seeing a video of a flamingo flying and it made me so uncomfortable. I could use the pick me up lmao
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 24, 2021 8:39:26 GMT -5
I don’t agree with your take on Paul - and that’s okay . I miss Nell. They had chemistry and were amazing together. To me Paul is a gentleman but very enthusiastic and looking to mix things up to keep it interesting. And believe-you-me Nell would put him in his place LOL It is okay. And honestly I’ve not really noticed it much before. I just thought it was particularly evident on Thursday and I legitimately thought of what an expert Salima is and how it must be exhausting to play the sidekick. Play-by-play announcers are the primary speakers, valued for their articulateness and ability to describe the events of an often fast-moving contest. Color commentators are valued for experience and insight into the game, and are often asked questions by the play-by-play announcer to give them a topic for analysis. |
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Post by utexrulz23 on Apr 24, 2021 8:59:22 GMT -5
It is okay. And honestly I’ve not really noticed it much before. I just thought it was particularly evident on Thursday and I legitimately thought of what an expert Salima is and how it must be exhausting to play the sidekick. Play-by-play announcers are the primary speakers, valued for their articulateness and ability to describe the events of an often fast-moving contest. Color commentators are valued for experience and insight into the game, and are often asked questions by the play-by-play announcer to give them a topic for analysis. I’m not unintelligent. I understand how this works. Being mindful of sexism isn’t a bad thing you know. |
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Post by diggerdive on Apr 24, 2021 9:11:22 GMT -5
Play-by-play announcers are the primary speakers, valued for their articulateness and ability to describe the events of an often fast-moving contest. Color commentators are valued for experience and insight into the game, and are often asked questions by the play-by-play announcer to give them a topic for analysis. I’m not unintelligent. I understand how this works. Being mindful of sexism isn’t a bad thing you know. It’s not. That’s true. But you really think that’s Paul Sunderland? The guy has amassed a pretty impressive career, almost 100% in the public domain. I just don’t think Salima’s shortcomings are because Paul is a sexist. How does that sound to you out loud? |
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Post by stevehorn on Apr 24, 2021 9:56:18 GMT -5
So you're trying to flip the narrative from back in the fall. At that time, the general consensus was the teams playing in the fall would be at a disadvantage in the tournament. Did people really believe playing in the fall would be a disadvantage? There were a number of posts where people stated that playing in the fall and then having a shorter time in the spring to prepare for the tournament would be a disadvantage. IMO this was the more general opinion at that time. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 24, 2021 9:58:10 GMT -5
Play-by-play announcers are the primary speakers, valued for their articulateness and ability to describe the events of an often fast-moving contest. Color commentators are valued for experience and insight into the game, and are often asked questions by the play-by-play announcer to give them a topic for analysis. I’m not unintelligent. I understand how this works. Being mindful of sexism isn’t a bad thing you know. It certainly isn’t. Assigning someone’s style of play by play as sexist and chauvinistic however is. I’ve known Paul personally for 30 years and nothing about him or any interaction I’ve ever had with him suggests he’s either. Yes men can and do talk over women, condescend, man-splain........, I’d be the first to call it out. Knowing him and watching him, I don’t see either. What’s hard about that position particularly given he is also knowledgeable about the sport unlike some pbp people, he is often asking Salima questions he already knows the answer to which could appear condescending. I get your points about men, I’m defending Paul from the description of his actions being sexist and chauvinistic. Color commentators for a lack of a better word are sidekicks. If there’s an argument here is that women in broadcasting are in fact rarely in the play by play role, and that an overwhelming majority of the time their jobs as color people or sideline people is because they are attractive. |
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