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Post by badgerbreath on May 19, 2021 19:59:07 GMT -5
OP updated. I'm sitting here glaring at the Trinity of Anticipation: Rettke-Samedy-Stivrins. I still think all 3 should go pro. I don't think all 3 will, though. No knowledge, just my gut. Or, maybe that's breakfast not sitting well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I think they should make the decisions that makes sense for them personally. It's not easy to balance all the plusses and minuses, in a pandemic especially, when the landscape keeps changing. I also wonder if this last year was great preparation for going pro. So basically I think you're right. I don't know which of them will stay or leave though. |
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Post by bruinsgold on May 19, 2021 20:20:01 GMT -5
Sam Burgio - Maryland to Ole Miss Was I not paying attention? Like... wow. What do the Terps have left?! |
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Post by n00b on May 19, 2021 20:22:28 GMT -5
Sam Burgio - Maryland to Ole Miss Was I not paying attention? Like... wow. What do the Terps have left?! All but 1 of their transfers have been grad transfers. I don't see this as a big deal. They are just on a normal cycle of replacing seniors. (Rebekah Rath is the exception) |
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Post by Kingsley on May 19, 2021 20:25:47 GMT -5
Yeah, just a bunch of seniors who all decided not to take their extra year at Maryland. At the same time, it’s a good opportunity to explore grad school opportunities elsewhere.
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Post by bruinsgold on May 19, 2021 20:33:47 GMT -5
Was I not paying attention? Like... wow. What do the Terps have left?! All but 1 of their transfers have been grad transfers. I don't see this as a big deal. They are just on a normal cycle of replacing seniors. (Rebekah Rath is the exception) Burgio was a senior?! HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN ASLEEP? |
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Post by Kingsley on May 19, 2021 20:35:38 GMT -5
All but 1 of their transfers have been grad transfers. I don't see this as a big deal. They are just on a normal cycle of replacing seniors. (Rebekah Rath is the exception) Burgio was a senior?! HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN ASLEEP? According to my abacus, about four years. |
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Post by bruinsgold on May 19, 2021 20:49:11 GMT -5
Burgio was a senior?! HOW LONG HAVE I BEEN ASLEEP? According to my abacus, about four years. 😂 After that great exodus following The Aird Era, I slipped into a coma. |
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Post by greatlakesvballer on May 19, 2021 23:26:10 GMT -5
Dear OP: Hawkeyes' Audrey Black shouldn't be listed as a freshman...she played this year.
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Post by Kingsley on May 19, 2021 23:38:52 GMT -5
Dear OP: Hawkeyes' Audrey Black shouldn't be listed as a freshman...she played this year. Oopsies. Easy to get tunnel vision when looking at a roster and trying to remember that you have to shift everyone up a class. |
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Post by HappyVolley on May 20, 2021 0:07:20 GMT -5
Look. In terms of sports, limiting the range of athletes that you can recruit to play for you is never a good thing. It's just not. Sure, you don't have to have a diverse team to win in a given year (especially if all the prep requires access that isn't as available to BIPOC students), but you are not going to have sustained success unless the door is open to all. Somebody else will figure it out. Sports is unforgiving in that sense, in a good way. In terms of real life, there are literally decades of research showing the positive effects of diversity (writ large - it's not simply skin color or gender) on problem solving in business settings and in technical/academic settings. More diverse groups may not solve problems more quickly. The process may be fraught, which is usually why people don't like diversity - it requires work. There are certainly network effects that are often affected by preexisting imbalances in power. But more diverse groups make fewer assumptions and so are better at sussing out more options and getting to the right answer. Groups that are just women, just men, just white, or just black, often do worse at solving problems correctly than groups that are a mixture. It's not the only factor, but it matters, and it's often the major problem. But beyond the utilitarian arguments, there is the moral argument. These educational institutions that support volleyball are supposed to support everyone, to provide a platform for everyone to meet their potential. It's usually in their mission statements. It's mandated by law in many cases. They have to prepare their students for a more diverse world, because that diversity is not going away. There's actually decades of research showing that diversity is a net neutral or, in some cases, a negative. That kind of academic research, or at least those conclusions, would end an academicians career now. |
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Post by HappyVolley on May 20, 2021 0:13:05 GMT -5
Ask Foluke how many black players were at Stanford when she accepted her scholarship there. I don't recall any black players on the Stanford team at that time. Well, you're recalling things wrong. There were three. Two of them were sisters (not sistahs). |
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Post by HappyVolley on May 20, 2021 0:19:27 GMT -5
Ask Nebraska about winning without diversity. I'm not sure if this was addressed but I was baffled by the comment. I think Jazz Sweet, Lexi Sun, Keonilei Akana, Kayla Caffey, and Kenzie Knuckles would be too. I'm sure you realize we aren't talking about Asians and Pacific Islanders here. Of the three blacks you mentioned, only Sweet was a significant contributor and she got a DUI -- not exactly enhancing the image of UNL Volleyball. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 20, 2021 0:24:26 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this was addressed but I was baffled by the comment. I think Jazz Sweet, Lexi Sun, Keonilei Akana, Kayla Caffey, and Kenzie Knuckles would be too. I'm sure you realize we aren't talking about Asians and Pacific Islanders here. Of the three blacks you mentioned, only Sweet was a significant contributor and she got a DUI -- not exactly enhancing the image of UNL Volleyball. Wow. Some people love telling on themselves. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 20, 2021 0:38:12 GMT -5
Look. In terms of sports, limiting the range of athletes that you can recruit to play for you is never a good thing. It's just not. Sure, you don't have to have a diverse team to win in a given year (especially if all the prep requires access that isn't as available to BIPOC students), but you are not going to have sustained success unless the door is open to all. Somebody else will figure it out. Sports is unforgiving in that sense, in a good way. In terms of real life, there are literally decades of research showing the positive effects of diversity (writ large - it's not simply skin color or gender) on problem solving in business settings and in technical/academic settings. More diverse groups may not solve problems more quickly. The process may be fraught, which is usually why people don't like diversity - it requires work. There are certainly network effects that are often affected by preexisting imbalances in power. But more diverse groups make fewer assumptions and so are better at sussing out more options and getting to the right answer. Groups that are just women, just men, just white, or just black, often do worse at solving problems correctly than groups that are a mixture. It's not the only factor, but it matters, and it's often the major problem. But beyond the utilitarian arguments, there is the moral argument. These educational institutions that support volleyball are supposed to support everyone, to provide a platform for everyone to meet their potential. It's usually in their mission statements. It's mandated by law in many cases. They have to prepare their students for a more diverse world, because that diversity is not going away. There's actually decades of research showing that diversity is a net neutral or, in some cases, a negative. That kind of academic research, or at least those conclusions, would end an academicians career now. Show it. Let's look at it. And provide examples of it ending an "academicians" career. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on May 20, 2021 2:45:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this was addressed but I was baffled by the comment. I think Jazz Sweet, Lexi Sun, Keonilei Akana, Kayla Caffey, and Kenzie Knuckles would be too. I'm sure you realize we aren't talking about Asians and Pacific Islanders here. Of the three blacks you mentioned, only Sweet was a significant contributor and she got a DUI -- not exactly enhancing the image of UNL Volleyball. I didn't realize that because the key word used was diversity which extends to POC not just African Americans. Also I'm guessing you don't watch a lot of Nebraska volleyball because I'm pretty sure Caffey was a significant contributor to the team (41 kills and 23 Blocks in their last 5 games as listed on their roster page) I'm left to assume that Knuckles is the third "Black" that you are referring to? If so I'd say that she was also a significant contributor (total of 60 digs in their last 5 games as listed on the roster page) But kudos to you for focusing on a terrible mistake made by a young adult during a horribly unique pandemic year. UNL Volleyball didn't seem too worried about their image as they stood by Sweet and put her on the court. |
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