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Post by jagdpanther on Dec 7, 2021 20:33:00 GMT -5
How would focus on football all of a sudden negatively impact volleyball? Football is the overwhelm focus there like it was when they were winning titles. Penn State's Athletic Department is... a bit different. Basically, it has been on "limp mode" for a long time. Yes, it is profitable. Yes, it has several programs with long-standing success. But the Athletic Department basically did nothing. It was just kinda "there." It lazily pushed some funds around, didn't really do much fundraising, and just let football bring in cash without really working to invest that cash or try to put out some effort to bring in even more cash. Occasionally a donor would want to fund a pet project, like develop D-I hockey at Penn State, and they'd go along with that, but that's about it. This is largely because in the past it really didn't have to do jack squat. But even 10 years after Joe Paterno was ousted they have yet to really adapt to a world where they actually have to do real work. What has changed the last several years, really since James Franklin took over football, is that he has been working overtime to get the Athletic Department to finally give a flying sh** about investing and doing work. Football pays all the bills, and to continue paying all the bills into the future it needs significant investment. Its facilities are horribly out of date and getting outright lapped by top-tier programs and even just passed by mediocre or even truly awful programs who understand the college football arms race is real and not going away. So what does this have to do with v-ball? It means that basically every dollar that has come in has been shunted to football-related things like salaries, facility upgrades, recruiting budgets, etc. There's enough money being given to non-rev sports to keep them afloat, but not much else. No one is really getting upgrades or new things unless private donors are bankrolling those things. Even beyond the Athletic Department, the University administration proper still is stuck in the past and refuses to really consider athletics a necessary investment. Our athlete housing is AWFUL. It is basically unchanged since the 80s. Meanwhile, at other universities, athletes are living in luxury (with schools bending NCAA rules enough to make it look like it's not an improper benefit by allowing rich non-athlete students to pony up to live in the same accommodations). It's not just the Sandusky scandal; we have a large segment of our University administration that would *love* to go down the Stanford road and totally deemphasize athletics. What has apparently given them pause as of late was seeing how hard the University as a whole and the State College area was devastated by the total lack of athletics-attendance-driven income in 2020-21. It was a wake-up call. But the going is still tough. So, yes, while football has always been king, the need to bring the football program into the present day from where it's stuck 15-20 years ago is causing a drain of resources on most other athletic programs within Penn State, and I think that at least partially explains why women's volleyball has fallen off the last 7 years to where it is now which is a middle-of-the-road Big Ten program. Your posts above can call it recruiting rather than resources, but recruiting is inherently tied to resources. The lack of recruiting and talent can be attributed in no small part to the drain of resources from the program. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 7, 2021 20:39:37 GMT -5
I don't disagree, but I thought it was understood in the JoePa era that football ruled, and it was some respects mere luck that at the time WVB and WBB and some of the other Olympic sports had success. So I am not sure the refocus necessarily has a material effect. But, they have gotten a lot of alums to step up and fund their pet programs, like wrestling and hockey. PSU needs a booster who might make volleyball a pet project? I do follow PSU athletics closely, despite my WI allegiance. It's my home state and I am very familiar with the FB program (I listen to David Jones podcast after each fb game) Volleyball has serious boosters. I don’t their “decline” has anything to do with administrative or financial support. They don’t have the talent they did when they were winning titles. They’re being compared to a ridiculous standard that isn’t sustainable. Recruiting is the issue. It's really recruiting of pin hitters. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2021 22:33:28 GMT -5
Volleyball has serious boosters. I don’t their “decline” has anything to do with administrative or financial support. They don’t have the talent they did when they were winning titles. They’re being compared to a ridiculous standard that isn’t sustainable. Recruiting is the issue. Recruiting is the issue, Agreed. Which falls on the coaching staff. Head coach inability to relate to players is a huge part of it. Coach cook in recent interview talked about how his transition after his health scare changed him and the program for the better. He became relatable to his players, and wanted to be more involved with them as women not as means to an end. Not a iconic figure who sits in his office with the door closed. Fear and embarrassment are not todays coaching tactics. This is a super interesting point. At what time does a coach ask themselves, “Is there something I need to change? And if I make changes, will it compromise my ability to be a high level coach?” |
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Post by ntylynbby on Dec 8, 2021 15:44:17 GMT -5
Roster 2022
Staying 11
Rollins
Billinovic
Skripek
Van Den Elzen
Williams
Starck
Kuerschen
Kudryashova
Holland
Musienga
Menger
Recruits 2
Markley OH
Morioka DS
Transfers in ?
Gone 10
Fitzpatrick Transfer
Broughton Grad School
Pritchard eligibility used
Walls Graduation
Parker Graduation
Clark Graduation
Blossom Transfer
Hampton ?
Hord ?
Oerther Transfer
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Post by vballfan97 on Dec 8, 2021 16:18:58 GMT -5
Roster 2022 Staying 11 Rollins Billinovic Skripek Van Den Elzen Williams Starck Kuerschen Kudryashova Holland Musienga Menger Recruits 2 Markley OH Morioka DS Transfers in ? Gone 10 Fitzpatrick Transfer Broughton Grad School Pritchard eligibility used Walls Graduation Parker Graduation Clark Graduation Blossom Transfer Hampton ? Hord ? Oerther Transfer Blossom transferring?? Also from the looks of Hamptons last Instagram it does not seem like she will be staying for that extra year. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 8, 2021 16:22:18 GMT -5
We sure Penn St. is making the tourney next year?
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 8, 2021 16:44:00 GMT -5
Roster 2022 Staying 11 Rollins Billinovic Skripek Van Den Elzen Williams Starck Kuerschen Kudryashova Holland Musienga Menger Recruits 2 Markley OH Morioka DS Transfers in ? Gone 10 Fitzpatrick Transfer Broughton Grad School Pritchard eligibility used Walls Graduation Parker Graduation Clark Graduation Blossom Transfer Hampton ? Hord ? Oerther Transfer I thought Hord was in the portal |
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Post by crazyvbdad on Dec 8, 2021 17:14:49 GMT -5
Blossom, Hord and Hampton in portal.
Parker and Rollins staying
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Post by ntylynbby on Dec 8, 2021 17:22:57 GMT -5
Blossom, Hord and Hampton in portal. Parker and Rollins staying Parker not staying she is gone as well. |
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Post by ntylynbby on Dec 8, 2021 17:23:52 GMT -5
Roster 2022 Staying 11 Rollins Billinovic Skripek Van Den Elzen Williams Starck Kuerschen Kudryashova Holland Musienga Menger Recruits 2 Markley OH Morioka DS Transfers in ? Gone 10 Fitzpatrick Transfer Broughton Grad School Pritchard eligibility used Walls Graduation Parker Graduation Clark Graduation Blossom Transfer Hampton ? Hord ? Oerther Transfer Update Hord transfer Hampton Transfer. |
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Post by bkedane on Dec 8, 2021 17:28:17 GMT -5
Roster 2022 Staying 11 Rollins Billinovic Skripek Van Den Elzen Williams Starck Kuerschen Kudryashova Holland Musienga Menger Recruits 2 Markley OH Morioka DS Transfers in ? Gone 10 Fitzpatrick Transfer Broughton Grad School Pritchard eligibility used Walls Graduation Parker Graduation Clark Graduation Blossom Transfer Hampton ? Hord ? Oerther Transfer Update Hord transfer Hampton Transfer. Being in the portal means that a player is open to transferring. By itself it doesn't mean that a player is transferring. Are all of the PSU players who have entered the portal going to transfer? I don't think this is settled yet. Some might not play anywhere. One or two might stay at PSU. Playing professionally is another option. Time will tell. |
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Post by PAPittFan on Dec 8, 2021 17:33:18 GMT -5
Volleyball has serious boosters. I don’t their “decline” has anything to do with administrative or financial support. They don’t have the talent they did when they were winning titles. They’re being compared to a ridiculous standard that isn’t sustainable. Recruiting is the issue. Recruiting is the issue, Agreed. Which falls on the coaching staff. Head coach inability to relate to players is a huge part of it. Coach cook in recent interview talked about how his transition after his health scare changed him and the program for the better. He became relatable to his players, and wanted to be more involved with them as women not as means to an end. Not a iconic figure who sits in his office with the door closed. Fear and embarrassment are not todays coaching tactics. I went to the Penn State volleyball camp back in the day, and thought Rose was an arrogant a$$. I can believe that he has trouble relating to players. He did win a lot though, I'll give him that. |
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Post by lionsfan on Dec 8, 2021 19:33:54 GMT -5
We sure Penn St. is making the tourney next year? Not at all. I've been thinking this for about a month now. |
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Post by jagdpanther on Dec 8, 2021 20:25:02 GMT -5
We sure Penn St. is making the tourney next year? The day is drawing nearer when we miss a tournament, for sure. This program is getting gutted. It's amazing. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 8, 2021 21:21:48 GMT -5
Update Hord transfer Hampton Transfer. Being in the portal means that a player is open to transferring. By itself it doesn't mean that a player is transferring. Are all of the PSU players who have entered the portal going to transfer? I don't think this is settled yet. Some might not play anywhere. One or two might stay at PSU. Playing professionally is another option. Time will tell. I give zero chance that a player in portal at PSU will stay. Zero |
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