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Post by mikevolley on May 3, 2021 10:47:20 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what you're on about. Why would you pick up a transfer if they're not going to fill a position that you need? And how is what Rose did any different than Cook with Andi Malloy and Bri Holman and Kelsey Robinson, McCutcheon with Kylie Miller, Sheffield with Clark and Barnes, and Wise with T'ara Caesar. Like I genuinely don't understand why you're bagging on Rose for something every top level coach does. Again, when there is evidence that Rose is using his players to circumvent transfer rules and have them reach out to potential transfers through social media or is actively seeking out players from rosters who still have eligibility remaining, then we have a problem. The difference is that PSU is trying to use the portal to keep the program in the top 25 while the other programs mentioned are using the portal to move into the top 5. Any fully funded program can handle one or two recruiting misses but since Salima left they've made a habit of under recruiting. I have no clue why people get on messages boards and act like someone hired them. You literally have no clue what Russ and the staff have done with recruiting outside of what you see materialize on the court. Every single major program uses the transfer to add talent in areas of need. Penn state was weak the pins so he went and got two sought after OHs. Regardless of good you think they are... he got them. These additions move this team from top 15 to top 5 potential imo. Literally every program goes through periods of drought but with the portal being a bigger part of the game you have to adjust. If you lose out on a player in recruiting there is always a possibility to pick them up in the portal... ie Taylor Leath. There is nothing wrong with using it so idk why yall are on this thread trying to %*$# on Penn state. If you dont like them and what they are doing, you dont have to comment. |
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Post by donut on May 3, 2021 10:47:37 GMT -5
- said right after bringing it up again. I was responding because typically answering rather that not causes less drama. I would’ve been flooded with messages and quotes asking or being angry that I said that with no answer. And I also don’t really care :/ You CONSTANTLY pull this sh!t, Gavin. You stir the pot, make baseless and targeted claims, and when you get called out on it, your backbone shrivels and you go all "omg don't attack me I was just saying." You obviously do care, so I suggest you find a new hobby. |
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Post by Kingsley on May 3, 2021 10:50:29 GMT -5
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Post by donut on May 3, 2021 10:50:58 GMT -5
where did you find this gif of me |
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Post by stanfordvb on May 3, 2021 11:35:31 GMT -5
I was responding because typically answering rather that not causes less drama. I would’ve been flooded with messages and quotes asking or being angry that I said that with no answer. And I also don’t really care :/ You CONSTANTLY pull this sh!t, You stir the pot, make baseless and targeted claims, and when you get called out on it, your backbone shrivels and you go all "omg don't attack me I was just saying." You obviously do care, so I suggest you find a new hobby. No I’m saying I don’t care that other people care. I post information that I hear and people get mad at me and I’m saying I don’t care. What I posted wasn’t a rude opinion, it was information that has been confirmed by alumni from the program. There goes ur “baseless” claim lol. I put out all the info I know, only if I hear from a credible source, because I hope other people do the same. Just block me if u don’t want to see it. Responding publicly only “stirs the pot” more, private message me if you have a problem unless you only feel validation from others seeing ur posts, again, up to u I don’t really care if ur mad at me  |
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Post by justahick on May 3, 2021 12:56:43 GMT -5
The difference is that PSU is trying to use the portal to keep the program in the top 25 while the other programs mentioned are using the portal to move into the top 5. Any fully funded program can handle one or two recruiting misses but since Salima left they've made a habit of under recruiting. I have no clue why people get on messages boards and act like someone hired them. You literally have no clue what Russ and the staff have done with recruiting outside of what you see materialize on the court. Every single major program uses the transfer to add talent in areas of need. Penn state was weak the pins so he went and got two sought after OHs. Regardless of good you think they are... he got them. These additions move this team from top 15 to top 5 potential imo. Literally every program goes through periods of drought but with the portal being a bigger part of the game you have to adjust. If you lose out on a player in recruiting there is always a possibility to pick them up in the portal... ie Taylor Leath. There is nothing wrong with using it so idk why yall are on this thread trying to %*$# on Penn state. If you dont like them and what they are doing, you dont have to comment. Two points 1) At least several of us were on the same courts watching the same prospects when the kids were first scouted through when they committed. 2) Isn't seeing what materializes the whole point of recruiting? There are two ways to evaluate recruiting - how good were the players expected to be, and how good did they turn out to be. When a team is consistently falling behind their peers by both metrics, it is a problem. Yes the portal is a good way to add talent, I'm not coitizing their use of the portal, I'm criticizing their recruiting over the past several year which forced them to rely on use of the portal. |
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Post by hammer on May 3, 2021 13:09:36 GMT -5
yikes photos found his way out of Nebraska threads Man the battle stations!  |
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Post by FreeBall on May 3, 2021 13:15:18 GMT -5
Yes the portal is a good way to add talent, I'm not coitizing their use of the portal, I'm coitizing their recruiting over the past several year which forced them to rely on use of the portal. "Coitizing"? WTH? |
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 3, 2021 13:18:19 GMT -5
Yes the portal is a good way to add talent, I'm not coitizing their use of the portal, I'm coitizing their recruiting over the past several year which forced them to rely on use of the portal. "Coitizing"? WTH?  |
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Post by justahick on May 3, 2021 13:18:33 GMT -5
Yes the portal is a good way to add talent, I'm not coitizing their use of the portal, I'm coitizing their recruiting over the past several year which forced them to rely on use of the portal. "Coitizing"? WTH? Verb. third-person singular simple present coitizes, present participle coitizing, simple past and past participle coitized. to have sexual intercourse - OR - meant to type criticizing |
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Post by photos1 on May 3, 2021 14:00:54 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what you're on about. Why would you pick up a transfer if they're not going to fill a position that you need? And how is what Rose did any different than Cook with Andi Malloy and Bri Holman and Kelsey Robinson, McCutcheon with Kylie Miller, Sheffield with Clark and Barnes, and Wise with T'ara Caesar. Like I genuinely don't understand why you're bagging on Rose for something every top level coach does. Again, when there is evidence that Rose is using his players to circumvent transfer rules and have them reach out to potential transfers through social media or is actively seeking out players from rosters who still have eligibility remaining, then we have a problem. You are just making up things. . . |
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Post by mikevolley on May 3, 2021 14:20:55 GMT -5
I have no clue why people get on messages boards and act like someone hired them. You literally have no clue what Russ and the staff have done with recruiting outside of what you see materialize on the court. Every single major program uses the transfer to add talent in areas of need. Penn state was weak the pins so he went and got two sought after OHs. Regardless of good you think they are... he got them. These additions move this team from top 15 to top 5 potential imo. Literally every program goes through periods of drought but with the portal being a bigger part of the game you have to adjust. If you lose out on a player in recruiting there is always a possibility to pick them up in the portal... ie Taylor Leath. There is nothing wrong with using it so idk why yall are on this thread trying to %*$# on Penn state. If you dont like them and what they are doing, you dont have to comment. Two points 1) At least several of us were on the same courts watching the same prospects when the kids were first scouted through when they committed. 2) Isn't seeing what materializes the whole point of recruiting? There are two ways to evaluate recruiting - how good were the players expected to be, and how good did they turn out to be. When a team is consistently falling behind their peers by both metrics, it is a problem. Yes the portal is a good way to add talent, I'm not coitizing their use of the portal, I'm criticizing their recruiting over the past several year which forced them to rely on use of the portal. Recruiting is not a 1:1 situation. Programs have to constantly adjust to the changes in players... what worked in 2017 is not going to work in 2021. Every major program has gone through these recruiting dips AND even the programs that havent still have not been able to win as much as Penn State. When you lose someone like Salima Rockwell it takes time to replace. If you follow PSU they've always brought 1 major class per 4 year cycle and then try to pick up one or two players to add. Jonni Parker's class was an example of that... the only thing missing from that class was an elite OH. They went after Iman... had her until she flipped but thats recruiting. You win some and lose some but just because you lose a few battles and just choose to go a different route DOES NOT mean your program is in shambles. It means you have to do better the next time which is what Russ has said for the last two years. At the end of the day its still the athletes decision. You can do everything right and those players may still choose to go elsewhere for whatever reason. How you remedy that and move forward is the bigger question and Russ' answer was to go get help in the portal. Erika is a one year loaner. Adanna gives them insurance and allows the 2021 commits time to develop which is similar to the roster than Russ had when Simone Lee barely played her first two years. Finally, just because someone is good in HS or in AAU does not mean that will translate in college. Regardless of how much potential someone has its still hard to predict. |
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Post by photos1 on May 3, 2021 14:28:39 GMT -5
Still waiting for the SparkNotes version of this to come out (or CliffsNotes, for the older generation). They didn’t teach reading comprehension in your classes at LSE? Not surprising. . . You and Jim Rose should get together and share notes-your clueless delusions would be comedy gold. Half truths are traits of your Tommy Flanagan club. . . Awesome!🙋🏻♀️ |
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Post by azvolleydad on May 3, 2021 15:26:59 GMT -5
Rollins may have had a tough year due to injuries or whatever caused her to miss matches, but she is above average in serve/receive for an OH. Whenever I saw her in matches during Frosh and Soph years at Minn. she did quite well in serve receive. I only saw one match this year so if she had a fall off in passing I bet she will be back to normal or better at Penn St. I guess we can agree to disagree on that one. FWIW - Rolllins's passing numbers were almost as bad in 2019 and only marginally better in 2018. |
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Post by topdog7 on May 3, 2021 15:29:03 GMT -5
I guess we can agree to disagree on that one. FWIW - Rolllins's passing numbers were almost as bad in 2019 and only marginally better in 2018. just curious - how do you have access to volleymetrics? |
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