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Post by Kingsley on May 2, 2021 18:48:13 GMT -5
Still waiting for the SparkNotes version of this to come out (or CliffsNotes, for the older generation).
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Post by justahick on May 2, 2021 19:00:34 GMT -5
Still waiting for the SparkNotes version of this to come out (or CliffsNotes, for the older generation). Russ hasn't recruited well since Salima left and he's trying to use the portal to make up for these recruiting failures. |
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Post by Kingsley on May 2, 2021 19:02:47 GMT -5
Still waiting for the SparkNotes version of this to come out (or CliffsNotes, for the older generation). Russ hasn't recruited well since Salima left and he's trying to use the portal to make up for these recruiting failures. Ah, well, then I didn't need to read all that. |
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Post by pittsburgh7717 on May 2, 2021 19:05:45 GMT -5
yikes photos found his way out of Nebraska threads Man the battle stations! |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 19:08:20 GMT -5
Can you name 5 top 25 teams that haven't utilized a big-time transfer in the past 5 years? Take all the time you need with this one Again, did you read my post? Have you watched the PSU roster the past couple of years? Just like some people have a drink with dinner or a glass of wine with their meal, some, many...most people “utilize” alcohol drinks to compliment a good thing . . . but over indulging ruins the meal. Yes, virtually every team utilizes the transfer option. But in this case, when a team is “utilizing” the transfer portal in a attempt to make up for failed recruiting years or to REPLACE a portal transfer failure from a previous year, well, it goes from “utilizing” to a over indulging in a desperate attempt to replace. When you attempt to improve an undersized OH group with a good player from a losing program, that seems counter productive. When you attempt to improve an undersized OH group with an undersized but skilled hitter who has bad passing skills, well, that also seems to be counter productive. And when you are using the transfer portal to replace a failed transfer from the previous year, well, that too seems counter productive to the program and its culture. Penn State’s use of the transfer portal isn’t the problem, but it is a symptom of the real problem-recruiting very good players, but not elite players. . . as Nebraska, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Stanford have for the past decade. We can argue about that “top 5” 2021 PSU recruiting class all you want, but I don’t see any of the 5 signees offering any meaningful help next fall. And I don’t see this class making up ground on the top 3 teams in the B1G-in fact they are losing in the recruitment of talent. Kuerschen is a good defender, but elite level good right now or next fall? Rodriquez level good right now or next fall? We’ll see how it goes. 🏐🤷🏻♀️ You're wrong. You're making an argument about something you know nothing about. There are programs that recruit big pin hitters nearly every year and still can't win a natty. PSU was fine up through 2017 with Simone Lee and Ali Frantti. Penn State lost out on some big recruits after Salima retired from college coaching. It set the program back a 2-3 years, but the Lions are back in the race again. No program is going to be top of the boards every single year. |
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Post by justahick on May 2, 2021 19:17:49 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what you're on about. Why would you pick up a transfer if they're not going to fill a position that you need? And how is what Rose did any different than Cook with Andi Malloy and Bri Holman and Kelsey Robinson, McCutcheon with Kylie Miller, Sheffield with Clark and Barnes, and Wise with T'ara Caesar. Like I genuinely don't understand why you're bagging on Rose for something every top level coach does. Again, when there is evidence that Rose is using his players to circumvent transfer rules and have them reach out to potential transfers through social media or is actively seeking out players from rosters who still have eligibility remaining, then we have a problem. The difference is that PSU is trying to use the portal to keep the program in the top 25 while the other programs mentioned are using the portal to move into the top 5. Any fully funded program can handle one or two recruiting misses but since Salima left they've made a habit of under recruiting. |
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Post by jagdpanther on May 2, 2021 19:26:16 GMT -5
I mean... photos isn't wrong. Like, at all. We're no longer in the top quarter of this conference consistently.
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Post by pittsburgh7717 on May 2, 2021 19:38:17 GMT -5
I mean... photos isn't wrong. Like, at all. We're no longer in the top quarter of this conference consistently. Show me where anyone contested that PSU is no longer consistently at the top of the B1G... |
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Post by stanfordvb on May 3, 2021 0:00:53 GMT -5
You really think fitzpatrick and pritchard are better than rollins?? That’s not the point. Rollins is an undersized OH who was controlled by the best teams in the B1G this spring-including -.037 against Nebraska and .107 against Wisconsin. Is that what Rose needs? In addition Rollins lacks the backrow passing ability to make Penn State a better team. And, bringing in a transfer or 2 in a couple year cycle can be absorbed into a team culture, but when several transfers are being infused into a team culture for 3, 4, 5 years in a row, well, there is no real culture remaining. What remains is a team looking over their shoulders to see who the coaches are bringing in from the portal to take their place. Hint: it’s not working when you are bringing in transfers to replace transfers who weren’t good enough from the year before- and that is where Penn State is. It seems to me that it should be easier for Penn State to recruit quality OHs as prep players instead of recruiting players from the portal from losing programs like Rutgers and Maryland. Rose had a great program culture for nearly 40 years, it’s sad this is going on at the end of his tenure. And lastly, why would Fitzpatrick stick around? Why would any high school player go to Penn State at this point? We’ll see how it all works out...🏐🤷🏻♀️ Doesn’t help when one of the transfers is a known problem starter at her old school lol |
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Post by m on May 3, 2021 1:33:56 GMT -5
That’s not the point. Rollins is an undersized OH who was controlled by the best teams in the B1G this spring-including -.037 against Nebraska and .107 against Wisconsin. Is that what Rose needs? In addition Rollins lacks the backrow passing ability to make Penn State a better team. And, bringing in a transfer or 2 in a couple year cycle can be absorbed into a team culture, but when several transfers are being infused into a team culture for 3, 4, 5 years in a row, well, there is no real culture remaining. What remains is a team looking over their shoulders to see who the coaches are bringing in from the portal to take their place. Hint: it’s not working when you are bringing in transfers to replace transfers who weren’t good enough from the year before- and that is where Penn State is. It seems to me that it should be easier for Penn State to recruit quality OHs as prep players instead of recruiting players from the portal from losing programs like Rutgers and Maryland. Rose had a great program culture for nearly 40 years, it’s sad this is going on at the end of his tenure. And lastly, why would Fitzpatrick stick around? Why would any high school player go to Penn State at this point? We’ll see how it all works out...🏐🤷🏻♀️ Doesn’t help when one of the transfers is a known problem starter at her old school lol who's the problem starter??? i'm so confused |
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Post by dodger on May 3, 2021 10:08:59 GMT -5
I honestly don't understand what you're on about. Why would you pick up a transfer if they're not going to fill a position that you need? And how is what Rose did any different than Cook with Andi Malloy and Bri Holman and Kelsey Robinson, McCutcheon with Kylie Miller, Sheffield with Clark and Barnes, and Wise with T'ara Caesar. Like I genuinely don't understand why you're bagging on Rose for something every top level coach does. Again, when there is evidence that Rose is using his players to circumvent transfer rules and have them reach out to potential transfers through social media or is actively seeking out players from rosters who still have eligibility remaining, then we have a problem. The difference is that PSU is trying to use the portal to keep the program in the top 25 while the other programs mentioned are using the portal to move into the top 5. Any fully funded program can handle one or two recruiting misses but since Salima left they've made a habit of under recruiting. LOLOL. |
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Post by stanfordvb on May 3, 2021 10:18:54 GMT -5
Doesn’t help when one of the transfers is a known problem starter at her old school lol who's the problem starter??? i'm so confused Starts with an “A” and ends with ”Donna” lol, it doesn’t need to be brought up again and I’m not saying anything else in fear of gopher fans piling on. But it’s no secret that team hasn’t had good chemistry in a few years and there’s one consistent name being brought up |
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Post by jwvolley on May 3, 2021 10:20:54 GMT -5
who's the problem starter??? i'm so confused it doesn’t need to be brought up again - said right after bringing it up again. |
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Post by stanfordvb on May 3, 2021 10:36:55 GMT -5
it doesn’t need to be brought up again - said right after bringing it up again. I was responding because typically answering rather that not causes less drama. I would’ve been flooded with messages and quotes asking or being angry that I said that with no answer. And I also don’t really care :/ |
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Post by donut on May 3, 2021 10:45:32 GMT -5
who's the problem starter??? i'm so confused Starts with an “A” and ends with ”Donna” lol, it doesn’t need to be brought up again and I’m not saying anything else in fear of gopher fans piling on. But it’s no secret that team hasn’t had good chemistry in a few years and there’s one consistent name being brought up "It doesn't need to be brought up again but her name is Adanna and she's to blame for bad team chemistry." GTFO. |
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