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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2023 16:36:29 GMT -5
I think florida has the talent, but MW coaching style is obsolete. I personally think we need a change in order to get into the championship we all want I believe with the right coach and the talent Florida has had they could have mutiple championships by now. I think wise holds them Back. Good recruiter yes. Great IDK. Florida is a great destination so does that sell itself a bit also. That’s debatable how much is coach and how much is location. I mean it could be argued that Florida state and Miami are very similar as a location spot so I’ll leave that be but I’ve always felt wise doesn’t always know how to correctly identify and use her talent in the correct ways. I find her underwhelming in the game strategy department. Your talent can get you so far but there comes a point you really have to coach. And when it gets into those high leverage moments she seems to get out coached a lot. Just my opinion
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Post by sports4545 on Dec 23, 2023 20:00:58 GMT -5
I think florida has the talent, but MW coaching style is obsolete. I personally think we need a change in order to get into the championship we all want I believe with the right coach and the talent Florida has had they could have mutiple championships by now. I think wise holds them Back. Good recruiter yes. Great IDK. Florida is a great destination so does that sell itself a bit also. That’s debatable how much is coach and how much is location. I mean it could be argued that Florida state and Miami are very similar as a location spot so I’ll leave that be but I’ve always felt wise doesn’t always know how to correctly identify and use her talent in the correct ways. I find her underwhelming in the game strategy department. Your talent can get you so far but there comes a point you really have to coach. And when it gets into those high leverage moments she seems to get out coached a lot. Just my opinion I just personally think they won’t let her go until she wants to retire. She’s too successful, natty or not for them to get rid of her. Just my opinion.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 23, 2023 20:06:51 GMT -5
I believe with the right coach and the talent Florida has had they could have mutiple championships by now. I think wise holds them Back. Good recruiter yes. Great IDK. Florida is a great destination so does that sell itself a bit also. That’s debatable how much is coach and how much is location. I mean it could be argued that Florida state and Miami are very similar as a location spot so I’ll leave that be but I’ve always felt wise doesn’t always know how to correctly identify and use her talent in the correct ways. I find her underwhelming in the game strategy department. Your talent can get you so far but there comes a point you really have to coach. And when it gets into those high leverage moments she seems to get out coached a lot. Just my opinion I just personally think they won’t let her go until she wants to retire. She’s too successful, natty or not for them to get rid of her. Just my opinion.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 23, 2023 20:11:45 GMT -5
In my opinion she used to be successful when Florida didn't had much competence on SEC. Kentucky already is ahead of us, and Tennessee and Arkansas are almost there. Now we will have Texas on the conference too. Her style of coaching is just old fashion. DS cant kill the ball. We need at least one OH playing six rotation. In Florida unfortunately they dont develop the players. That is just frustrated. Hopefully the next year or so we will be better with the talented freshman class we will have and Isabel Martin is an excellent 6 rotation OH. Time will tell.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 23, 2023 21:10:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Bella Lee is going to play with Florida? She hasn’t been announced yet and she was committed
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Post by sevb on Dec 23, 2023 22:18:16 GMT -5
In my opinion she used to be successful… Shes still successful… so everything after this is silly… Including the 72 reposts of the same question…
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Post by bounce22 on Dec 24, 2023 11:14:01 GMT -5
In my opinion she used to be successful… Shes still successful… so everything after this is silly… Including the 72 reposts of the same question… Yes, she’s still successful by almost everyone’s definition of on court success. Don’t think anyone is hating on Mary with those recent posts, it’s just their observations and opinions. The only situations in which one might understandably “hate” on someone would arise from personal experiences. It can be argued both ways, and things change over the years, but it may seem like Mary has some coaching deficiencies that help prevent her teams from having even more success. There’s not a huge group of coaches and programs that have won a Natty so Mary is just one of those. However, Florida has a history of very gifted athletes and, when you’re don’t win a national championship over that many years WITH that many gifted athletes, you’re going to be scrutinized a bit. I’m sure that doesn’t keep her up at night anyway, nor should it. I think the main issue here that most people are wondering about is, what is Mary doing to make herself a better coach or continually try to improve her program? A fair question as it relates to ALL coaches and programs to be sure. I suppose the only way to get a better understanding of the whole picture would be to hear from former athletes that have played for her over her career at Florida - personal like or dislike aside, what did she do as a volleyball coach that helped her team win big matches or lose big matches? In the end, does it really matter? Florida fans still get to watch great athletes compete for the SEC every year and hope is always there (athletically anyway) that the next year will bring The Holy Grail.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 24, 2023 11:57:12 GMT -5
In my opinion she used to be successful… Shes still successful… so everything after this is silly… Including the 72 reposts of the same question…
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 24, 2023 11:58:30 GMT -5
Im sorry for the repeated message. I dont know how that happen, I try to delete them, but didnt found how to do it. If you or someone else know how to delete the duplicate messages please let me know.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 24, 2023 12:02:08 GMT -5
Talking about MW success, I have a different opinion about, and just in case I dont hate anybody. If you mean she has been successful by winning the conference or bring the team to the top 16, yes. But successful of winning the championship not. Other programs with similar or less resources already win it all. For me Florida had the talent to alredy had at least 2 championship, the last time in 2017. Good coaching makes the difference.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 24, 2023 12:06:59 GMT -5
Shes still successful… so everything after this is silly… Including the 72 reposts of the same question…
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 24, 2023 12:10:07 GMT -5
You are absolutely correct in everything you are saying. Florida always has good talented and gifted players. For me the problem has been putting all that talent together and work as a team, and bring them to the next level. Next year we will have then number 1 recruited class of the nation, is now up the coaches to do their job, develop them and go all the way. Time will tell
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Post by bounce22 on Dec 24, 2023 16:53:37 GMT -5
You are absolutely correct in everything you are saying. Florida always has good talented and gifted players. For me the problem has been putting all that talent together and work as a team, and bring them to the next level. Next year we will have then number 1 recruited class of the nation, is now up the coaches to do their job, develop them and go all the way. Time will tell Time has told so, unless she’s prepared to go about things in a different manner than previously ……. to be fair of course, I am not privy to everything she may have done before that would suggest she’s trying to surround herself with the best possible people to compliment and supplement her own skill set. I will certainly allow for the fact that, sometimes, the ball just bounces wrong for you at the absolute worst time (a point here or there I mean, not like the passing train wrecks that were Wisconsin and Nebraska at the absolute worst time 😑). I hope for Florida but it would be more of a stunner if they won it all rather than not.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 24, 2023 17:13:48 GMT -5
You are absolutely correct in everything you are saying. Florida always has good talented and gifted players. For me the problem has been putting all that talent together and work as a team, and bring them to the next level. Next year we will have then number 1 recruited class of the nation, is now up the coaches to do their job, develop them and go all the way. Time will tell Time has told so, unless she’s prepared to go about things in a different manner than previously ……. to be fair of course, I am not privy to everything she may have done before that would suggest she’s trying to surround herself with the best possible people to compliment and supplement her own skill set. I will certainly allow for the fact that, sometimes, the ball just bounces wrong for you at the absolute worst time (a point here or there I mean, not like the passing train wrecks that were Wisconsin and Nebraska at the absolute worst time 😑). I hope for Florida but it would be more of a stunner if they won it all rather than not.
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Post by latinogatorfan1 on Dec 24, 2023 17:17:31 GMT -5
I agree. They need to do their part. We will have the talent to play and fight head to head against any team next year. Im just hopping the coaching just do better job developing the players and making the correct decisions and adjustments when they need to. I dont know if anyone noticed this, but when they asked timeout, they spend 45 seconds talking to each other, and 15 seconds speaking to the players and not directly to anyone, instead of coaching and correcting the players that are not performing. Hopping for the best next year.
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