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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jul 7, 2021 22:29:12 GMT -5
I agree with the above. I’d put Haak in the top three, but I’d definitely put Boskovic and Egonu pretty far above her. For me, I’d put Boskovic ahead because of her consistency, but I’m trying not to be too reactionary with my player rankings. trying not to be too biased here but I’m not really sure an argument exists for Egonu over Boskovic anymore. Boskovic is just remarkably consistent and is a far better all around player. Plus Boskovic has proven to be better in clutch situations head to head like 4 times now. (I’m also not putting a lot of weight into these scrimmages in saying this) this past club season with Boskovic hitting the numbers she did with the setting she had and surrounding cast was just insane. Egonu vs Boskovic can be debated until the end of time but my impression is that Egonu can get more sets and score more points. I don't recall Boskovic scoring 40+ but I have seen enough of that from Egonu. |
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Post by basil on Jul 7, 2021 22:37:50 GMT -5
trying not to be too biased here but I’m not really sure an argument exists for Egonu over Boskovic anymore. Boskovic is just remarkably consistent and is a far better all around player. Plus Boskovic has proven to be better in clutch situations head to head like 4 times now. (I’m also not putting a lot of weight into these scrimmages in saying this) this past club season with Boskovic hitting the numbers she did with the setting she had and surrounding cast was just insane. Egonu vs Boskovic can be debated until the end of time but my impression is that Egonu can get more sets and score more points. I don't recall Boskovic scoring 40+ but I have seen enough of that from Egonu. Boskovic has definitely done it but Egonu has probably done it more at the VERY highest level. Also, my main memories of Egonu are her just absolutely going off to bring her team back in epic moments/being clutch so there is that. I think it's a pretty heated debate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2021 22:42:48 GMT -5
Egonu vs Boskovic can be debated until the end of time but my impression is that Egonu can get more sets and score more points. I don't recall Boskovic scoring 40+ but I have seen enough of that from Egonu. I think it's a pretty heated debate. get heated, im bored.  |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jul 7, 2021 22:52:38 GMT -5
I think it's a pretty heated debate. get heated, im bored. Both have a CWC MVP. Egonu has 2x CEV CL MVP. But Boskovic has a WCh MVP, and that is the most important in my book. |
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Post by basil on Jul 7, 2021 22:53:30 GMT -5
Let's be honest, we need something really spicy to happen to relieve our boredom. Just have one of the Italian women accuse the Serbians of being racist a la the-hot-mess-that-is-men's-volleyball and we can have some fun.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2021 22:58:11 GMT -5
I think it's a pretty heated debate. get heated, im bored. I think people think Egonu is better/more exciting because of the kinds of kills she gets and they don’t appreciate the consistency and all around game Tijana brings because honestly I think it’s pretty clear Boskovic is better at this point. I used to think it was too close to tell but not anymore. Bosko is THE queen |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2021 23:02:07 GMT -5
get heated, im bored. Both have a CWC MVP. Egonu has 2x CEV CL MVP. But Boskovic has a WCh MVP, and that is the most important in my book. going undefeated for a whole year. boskovic who?  |
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 7, 2021 23:17:12 GMT -5
Both have a CWC MVP. Egonu has 2x CEV CL MVP. But Boskovic has a WCh MVP, and that is the most important in my book. going undefeated for a whole year. boskovic who? Stirring the pot are we?  |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Jul 7, 2021 23:23:10 GMT -5
Both have a CWC MVP. Egonu has 2x CEV CL MVP. But Boskovic has a WCh MVP, and that is the most important in my book. going undefeated for a whole year. boskovic who? win an important national team MVP first. Then she is as good as Hill. |
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Post by reformate on Jul 8, 2021 4:55:10 GMT -5
Boskovic, Egonu, Gamova. There are no other opposites playing today who belong in their tier. Even Haak in Vakifbank. Despite being past her peak, I'd pick Goncharova over her.
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Jul 8, 2021 7:56:31 GMT -5
Haak doesn’t have any big titles in club either, hasn’t shown the ability to be clutch. I think it’s right to put her in a top tier with the other two but that more speaks to the gap between #3 and #4 being so much larger than that between the top 2 and her. Boskovic hasn't won a relevant club title since 2016. That's not a good point of measurement. It’s relevant because that’s the place where Haak needs to prove herself because she scant get national team titles. It’s unfortunate but if you look at the list of team and individual accomplishments Egonu and Bosko had by the time they were Haak’s age, it’s just not a comparison. |
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Post by matte on Jul 8, 2021 7:58:03 GMT -5
Haak doesn’t have any big titles in club either, hasn’t shown the ability to be clutch. I mean Bella's carrer at the highest level has just started. She just comes from a great season where she won TL, carrying the team on her back and played a fantastic final of CL. If you look at club, Boskovic has neither won Turkish League nor has ever played a final of CL, let alone win it. |
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Post by trianglevolleyball on Jul 8, 2021 8:01:29 GMT -5
Haak doesn’t have any big titles in club either, hasn’t shown the ability to be clutch. I mean Bella's carrer at the highest level has just started. She just comes from a great season where she won TL, carrying the team on her back and played a fantastic final of CL. If you look at club, Boskovic has neither won Turkish League nor has ever played a final of CL, let alone win it. She was not fantastic in the CL Final 5th set, just like she was not fantastic in the CWCH 5th set. Missed serves, hitting errors. she was outplayed by Egonu both times, it’s not that complicated. She is an incredible player, but the best of the best forge their names by being clutch in big moments and winning big titles. Haak has done neither. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2021 8:06:01 GMT -5
Boskovic hasn't won a relevant club title since 2016. That's not a good point of measurement. It’s relevant because that’s the place where Haak needs to prove herself because she scant get national team titles. It’s unfortunate but if you look at the list of team and individual accomplishments Egonu and Bosko had by the time they were Haak’s age, it’s just not a comparison. Why does proving herself have to = winning titles? She's been at an elite club for one full season. (plus half a covid season). She made the Champion's League final (something boskovic has never done), she won the Turkish league (something Boskovic has never done). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2021 8:55:11 GMT -5
Haak doesn’t have any big titles in club either, hasn’t shown the ability to be clutch. I mean Bella's carrer at the highest level has just started. She just comes from a great season where she won TL, carrying the team on her back and played a fantastic final of CL. If you look at club, Boskovic has neither won Turkish League nor has ever played a final of CL, let alone win it. so are you arguing because Haak plays on a better club team that she is better than Bosko? |
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