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Jul 6, 2021 8:37:37 GMT -5
Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 6, 2021 8:37:37 GMT -5
This is a sh*t post, go run through the rest of his story and see all the athletes he put on the roster yesterday instead of playing into lazy stereotypes. Ok. Here’s every female athlete Portnoy posted yesterday. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make. The point was responding to was the notion that he is only doing this for young attractive woman, now post all the men he has been posting that are on that list of over 100 athletes as well....
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 6, 2021 9:27:05 GMT -5
Still trying to figure out exactly what it means to be a "Barstool Athlete." I gather the Barstool people are trying to do the same.
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Jul 6, 2021 10:07:17 GMT -5
Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 6, 2021 10:07:17 GMT -5
Still trying to figure out exactly what it means to be a "Barstool Athlete." I gather the Barstool people are trying to do the same. Barstool has said exactly that, they don't know what it even means yet but typically when Portnoy decides to get involved with something it turns to gold. I think they have the right idea here, at the very least right now they grow the brand outside of the east coast and Midwest hotbeds they dominate, and start getting more involved in areas they don't have strong a presence in. At the very least they keep in touch with these kids, push some sponsors their way for extra cash while they promote barstool on campus, and potentially have marketing partners if they ever make it big. Best case scenario, which is what I think they go for, is create some sort of Barstool Marketing Agency and wait for the rules to come out about what is and is not allowed and start monetizing these kids and creating relationships before the "traditional" agents figure it out and come along as well.
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Post by knapplc on Jul 6, 2021 10:45:51 GMT -5
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Jul 6, 2021 16:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by gtrich on Jul 6, 2021 16:49:01 GMT -5
Good for her!! With the new ruling, I would hope the AD's, or someone else at the universities, would be looking at this as a way to help the non-scholarship kids on the team get some money to cover their college expenses. Sure the big named athletes are going to bring in huge amounts of money. But there are a lot of non big-named athlete's in low scholarship count sports that could use any amount of $$'s they can get to help pay for school.
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Jul 6, 2021 16:53:22 GMT -5
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Post by n00b on Jul 6, 2021 16:53:22 GMT -5
Good for her!! With the new ruling, I would hope the AD's, or someone else at the universities, would be looking at this as a way to help the non-scholarship kids on the team get some money to cover their college expenses. Sure the big named athletes are going to bring in huge amounts of money. But there are a lot of non big-named athlete's in low scholarship count sports that could use any amount of $$'s they can get to help pay for school. There are basically two rules surrounding NIL - no pay for play and no inducements (recruiting). I can’t imagine any scenario where athletic department administrators interpret that as being allowed to help walkons get paid to offset tuition.
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Jul 6, 2021 17:19:50 GMT -5
Post by endersgame on Jul 6, 2021 17:19:50 GMT -5
And for a sport that gets very little attention and has kids coming from all sorts of financial backgrounds, this is huge. Lots of positives and negatives to NIL, and of course the big stars will benefit more publicly. But I cannot help myself but thinking what an opportunity for a walk on or s-a from a low income family to change their own life. Post-grad degrees and less school debt, books, housing, etc. For now, I'll view the glass as half full! How is a walk-on going to generate revenue? I'm thinking of the walk ons that have break out seasons or maybe they're closely connected to a local business in their home town that wants to cover their books. A lot of avenues to view this NIL change from.
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Jul 6, 2021 17:26:51 GMT -5
Post by moderndaycoach on Jul 6, 2021 17:26:51 GMT -5
Good for her!! With the new ruling, I would hope the AD's, or someone else at the universities, would be looking at this as a way to help the non-scholarship kids on the team get some money to cover their college expenses. Sure the big named athletes are going to bring in huge amounts of money. But there are a lot of non big-named athlete's in low scholarship count sports that could use any amount of $$'s they can get to help pay for school. There are basically two rules surrounding NIL - no pay for play and no inducements (recruiting). I can’t imagine any scenario where athletic department administrators interpret that as being allowed to help walkons get paid to offset tuition. This is exactly where I think barstool comes into play, if they start pushing their advertisers on benchwarmers or walk ons that develop, currently have, large followings, then I think you could easily see kids pushing manscaped, tazr, blue apron, etc. with discount codes showing up on these kids stories/timelines. All you need is 10k followers to do swipe ups on IG stories, all it will take is for one company to set the pace and soon tons of others will follow. Kids used to have to rely on academic scholarships, grants, or other ways to supplement their tuition, now if you are even just a little bit better in your abilities regarding social media compared to your abilities to play a high collegiate level, you may walk down the aisle during graduation with little to no student debt.
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Post by clob on Jul 6, 2021 18:01:31 GMT -5
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Jul 6, 2021 19:06:10 GMT -5
Post by gtrich on Jul 6, 2021 19:06:10 GMT -5
How is a walk-on going to generate revenue? I'm thinking of the walk ons that have break out seasons or maybe they're closely connected to a local business in their home town that wants to cover their books. A lot of avenues to view this NIL change from. I was thinking something similar. The local car dealership or sandwich shop or sports medicine place could put a small picture ad on their website that shows a different player page every time someone visits. Every time someone goes to visit the local Ford dealership's website, one of the players gets a hit on their page. I'm sure their are plenty of local amuni that own business/websites that would be happy to help out. With today's technology, you don't need to cut a 30 second TV ad. You just need to have a website that gets enough traffic to display the teams player ad's.
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Jul 6, 2021 19:23:59 GMT -5
Post by clob on Jul 6, 2021 19:23:59 GMT -5
No offense but I think you're thinking really small.
This is going to be WAY bigger than that.
It has the potential to TOTALLY explode.
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Jul 6, 2021 19:40:55 GMT -5
Post by mervinswerved on Jul 6, 2021 19:40:55 GMT -5
I'm thinking of the walk ons that have break out seasons or maybe they're closely connected to a local business in their home town that wants to cover their books. A lot of avenues to view this NIL change from. I was thinking something similar. The local car dealership or sandwich shop or sports medicine place could put a small picture ad on their website that shows a different player page every time someone visits. Every time someone goes to visit the local Ford dealership's website, one of the players gets a hit on their page. I'm sure their are plenty of local amuni that own business/websites that would be happy to help out. With today's technology, you don't need to cut a 30 second TV ad. You just need to have a website that gets enough traffic to display the teams player ad's. That's small potatoes and less effective than just doing a deal with the athletic department. I don't know where this is going to end up at equilibrium, but I get the sense it's going to be a lot of $10k-ish annual investments, which isn't nothing. The blockbuster deals are going to happen, but they'll be in the 50k-100k range, not seven figures. Although I could be wrong!
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Post by clob on Jul 6, 2021 19:46:34 GMT -5
Dave Portnoy and barstool sports is a bunch of creepy old men who get off on young blond girls. I don't think they'd even deny that. They'd probably even agree and say "Hell ya!" It's basically a bunch of wannabe frat guys who didn't have much success in college and are trying to relive those days. Some may not agree, but I think that girls involved in volleyball have the potential to be exposed to being "sexualized" at a young age. Most tend to fit the beauty myth--tall and slim. Not trying to add politics into this but here's something to read about Portnoy from an objective source: www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/06/20/barstool-sports-republican-politics-portnoy-trump-495221Anyway, should be interesting to see what happens in the next couple of months. Lexi has a clothing line and I'm just wondering when the first volleyball person will show up on Twitch... if they haven't already. More power to them. Just be forewarned, there a LOT of really skeevy guys out there...
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Jul 6, 2021 19:50:49 GMT -5
Post by mikegarrison on Jul 6, 2021 19:50:49 GMT -5
In the Nebraska thread, posters there were convinced that Nebraska athletes were in the best position because they love their volleyball, and they didn't have any competition from pro sports. I thought that athletes from schools with a dominant position in a large city would do better, because there is just so much more money available.
GDP of the LA metro area is about 9x that of the entire state of Nebraska. GDP of the Seattle metro area is about 3x that of the entire state of Nebraska, and unlike LA there is only a single dominant D1 school in that market (or maybe two, if you count the WSU alums).
Anyway, I decided to add a poll.
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Jul 6, 2021 20:12:04 GMT -5
Post by mervinswerved on Jul 6, 2021 20:12:04 GMT -5
In the Nebraska thread, posters there were convinced that Nebraska athletes were in the best position because they love their volleyball, and they didn't have any competition from pro sports. I thought that athletes from schools with a dominant position in a large city would do better, because there is just so much more money available. GDP of the LA metro area is about 9x that of the entire state of Nebraska. GDP of the Seattle metro area is about 3x that of the entire state of Nebraska, and unlike LA there is only a single dominant D1 school in that market (or maybe two, if you count the WSU alums). Anyway, I decided to add a poll. I would much rather be doing sponsorships and endorsement deals at Nebraska than, say, UCLA. Pro sports sucks a lot of air out of the room.
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