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Post by BeachbytheBay on Aug 22, 2021 11:27:46 GMT -5
have to say the Beach IMO looked better at this time of the season than I've seen Joy's first 3 years
Partyka had moments, brings a nice serve and block
Kash Williams keeps getting more mature, best thing was she got better as the match went on
Chavira looked like the better overall setter - has showed she can play opp, we'll see if she gets some OH duty
Canez, although not quick, showed a nice slide connedtion with the setters
Bacon I thought showed the most potential
Joy said Starr Williams played good, uhh, that was polite. She's a project for sure. given LB won both sets with her in was a good thing. Potential, we'll see if it's this year, and see if Joy forces her in the line-up while the development is occuring.
Pepperdine pulled Aherns the last set, so while a split 'looked' great, I'm not gonna get gaga over it in an exhibition. The 2nd set was horrific, looked like more of the first 3 years out of Joy
the good/promising things: Hoff as libero, Canez was efficient, the setting despite losing Tuaniga was promising, Giambi. Kennedy looked better, stronger, and a potential solid 2nd threat to Kash
Pepperdine brought a lot back, so was it Pepperdine was rusty, or the Beach will actually play fundamental consistent Volleyball. Got more confidence (so far), next week against 2 teams the Beach should beat handily, and one in an experienced Boise State team the Beach could compete with and could win, will be very telling. would be good to see some swagger and confidence carry over next week
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Post by gouci on Aug 22, 2021 11:50:59 GMT -5
SDSU was picked to finish 6th in the Mountain West while UCI was picked to finish 6th in the Big West. SDSU has their high profile new coaching staff with Brett Hilliard and assistant 2 time gold medal winner Steve Timmons. UCI is full of unknowns with 14 freshman on their roster.
A good start to the season for UCI coming off their injury plagued and basement finish before Covid.
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Post by medusa on Aug 22, 2021 11:58:16 GMT -5
I hope BWC non conference matches and scrimmages goes BWC way. W/L situation.
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Post by gouci on Aug 22, 2021 12:00:20 GMT -5
As expected, no BW schools in the AVCA pre-season top 25 but Hawaii are just outside the top 25 with UC San Diego and Cal Poly also receiving votes. If I recall correctly UCSD defeated UC Davis and UCI in the Spring matches. They may have also defeated UCSB. So why did the Big West coaches vote UCSD to finish tied for 8th place with 35 points is a mystery to me.
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Post by bigwestfan on Aug 22, 2021 12:13:30 GMT -5
I hope BWC non conference matches and scrimmages goes BWC way. W/L situation. I agree. Would be awesome for the BWC to have a season where the winner is not a foregone conclusion before the match even starts. Having 2 new teams definitely makes the season more interesting. Also seems that all teams have plenty of new/ unknown/ untested players.
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Post by gouci on Aug 22, 2021 12:32:38 GMT -5
In terms of an UCI roster update.
- UCI retains 6-0 MB/OH RS So. Kiani Stanton. I didn't see her in the Spring matches but she is now back and played in 4 sets in the win against SDSU.
- UCI picks up LMU transfer 6-4 OPP Fr. Ellen Veargason. She also played in 4 sets in the win against SDSU.
- UCI gets walk-on 6-0 MB Fr. Ofure Iselen.
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Post by beachgrad on Aug 22, 2021 14:24:59 GMT -5
SDSU was picked to finish 6th in the Mountain West while UCI was picked to finish 6th in the Big West. SDSU has their high profile new coaching staff with Brett Hilliard and assistant 2 time gold medal winner Steve Timmons. UCI is full of unknowns with 14 freshman on their roster. A good start to the season for UCI coming off their injury plagued and basement finish before Covid.
I agree with most of what you stated except your comments on the setters play. Partyka was against a full strength Pepperdine team and set her team to even play for a set and a half before LBSU imploded with just bad play. Partyka sets a better ball, runs a more diverse offense and has a nice block. Chavira is the better defender because she moves better and is quicker. Chavira still sets the ball too low and is very inconsistent with her sets. Chavira will be better utilized on the right where she made a big splash to close the season in 2019. I was happy to see Bacon play well when given the chance. She needs more time to develop but she played well. Starr Williams still looks too tentative and is not swinging but looks to be trying to guide the ball. She has plenty of upside so hopefully she gets in the groove soon since the team needs her. Kash looks stronger and more steady. Her serve also looks vastly improved and it put some pressure on Pepperdine but still too inconsistent. I thought that freshman Lovett looked steady in her defensive role. She is a sub 6 foot pin hitter that with some more development could be the six rotation player the program needs this season. Right now Nelson looks to be the one that will go all the way around but IMO Lovett has much more upside. The thing that surprised me the most was the team voting Partyka as the team captain. She is a freshman and has only been on campus for a few weeks. Says a lot about her impact with her teammates.
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Post by beachgrad on Aug 22, 2021 14:30:42 GMT -5
I hope BWC non conference matches and scrimmages goes BWC way. W/L situation. I agree. Would be awesome for the BWC to have a season where the winner is not a foregone conclusion before the match even starts. Having 2 new teams definitely makes the season more interesting. Also seems that all teams have plenty of new/ unknown/ untested players. The two teams added will not compete for a top half finish but just need to be competitive and stay out of the bottom position. Hawaii and Cal Poly are the two clear favorites with a few others trying to develop into contenders as the season progresses. Of the newcomers UCSD seems to have the better roster and I expect them to finish higher than Riverside/Bakersfield and I expect their fans believes they can also finish above Fullerton and CSUN.
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Post by raian13 on Aug 22, 2021 14:45:52 GMT -5
Looking forward to see Trinity play against her former team in her final season as a Triton. We barely saw her play when she was a Wahine.
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Post by vbjustice on Aug 22, 2021 15:39:22 GMT -5
Kash. Williams. Wow! Great performance this weekend.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 21:12:53 GMT -5
Starr Williams still looks too tentative and is not swinging but looks to be trying to guide the ball. She has plenty of upside so hopefully she gets in the groove soon since the team needs her. She isn't tentative. Her step close just isn't very good yet, so her window is small. She has a good arm and will swing when she gets the ball she wants but given the lack of experience at setter, I think we might see a lot of tips when she's on the floor. Speaking of the setters, Partyka is better than Chavira but she's slow and really struggled with her bump setting in the exhibition. On a team that lacks consistent passing, that is something the staff need to fix, fast! Beach have some pieces but I don't know if their setters and middles are good enough to win the conference this fall.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Aug 22, 2021 21:38:46 GMT -5
Starr Williams still looks too tentative and is not swinging but looks to be trying to guide the ball. She has plenty of upside so hopefully she gets in the groove soon since the team needs her. She isn't tentative. Her step close just isn't very good yet, so her window is small. She has a good arm and will swing when she gets the ball she wants but given the lack of experience at setter, I think we might see a lot of tips when she's on the floor. Speaking of the setters, Partyka is better than Chavira but she's slow and really struggled with her bump setting in the exhibition. On a team that lacks consistent passing, that is something the staff need to fix, fast! Beach have some pieces but I don't know if their setters and middles are good enough to win the conference this fall. Did you see cal poly play? How did they do. Really interested in how tommi performs this season
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Post by justahick on Aug 22, 2021 22:31:54 GMT -5
I agree. Would be awesome for the BWC to have a season where the winner is not a foregone conclusion before the match even starts. Having 2 new teams definitely makes the season more interesting. Also seems that all teams have plenty of new/ unknown/ untested players. The two teams added will not compete for a top half finish but just need to be competitive and stay out of the bottom position. Hawaii and Cal Poly are the two clear favorites with a few others trying to develop into contenders as the season progresses. Of the newcomers UCSD seems to have the better roster and I expect them to finish higher than Riverside/Bakersfield and I expect their fans believes they can also finish above Fullerton and CSUN. Staff is talking up UCSD's incoming class - I'm a bit skeptical. Their returners didn't look good in their spring scrimmages and teams moving up from d2 don't have a very good track record in their first few years.
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Post by trojansc on Aug 22, 2021 23:07:56 GMT -5
teams moving up from d2 don't have a very good track record in their first few years. I thought Dixie State and Tarleton State, for their 1st seasons last year - were pretty decent. Dixie particularly -- they were unfortunate to only have their primary setter available for home matches. Cal Baptist (another WAC team ironically) also had a nice transition. Though I guess it all depends on what you mean or one defines by good track record and what the standards/expectations should be. I would think just being competitive and middle of the road in any conference for a D2 team is pretty acceptable for the beginning of the transition.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Aug 25, 2021 18:06:54 GMT -5
Match-ups for this week, might post links later if I have time but here are the opponents for the Big West on week one
Cal Poly: #13 Louisville, @ Arizona State, Texas A&M - Corpus Christi Cal State Fullerton: New Mexico, Fordham CSU Bakersfield: Air Force, @ Northern Illinois, Western Illinois CSUN: Denver, Campbell, @ USC Hawaii: Fairfield, Marquette, Texas A&M Long Beach State: Montana State, @ Boise State, Dixie State UC Davis: @ Sacramento State, #6 Florida, #17 UCLA UC Irvine: @ Idaho State, UTEP, Seattle UC Riverside: Fordham, New Mexico UC San Diego: New Mexico State, Marist, @ Arizona UC Santa Barbara: Illinois, Valparaiso, @ Milwaukee
My predictions for this weekend Cal Poly (2-1), Cal State Fullerton (1-1), CSU Bakersfield (1-2), CSUN (1-2), Hawaii (3-0), Long Beach State (2-1), UC Davis (1-2), UC Irvine (2-1), UC Riverside (1-1), UC San Diego (1-2), UC Santa Barbara (0-3) - Overall (15-16)
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