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Post by beachgrad on Sept 13, 2021 21:02:53 GMT -5
Last full season the BW had three teams make the NCAA tourney and now not one team in the top 100 RPI. That is a pretty significant free fall but I guess not all unexpected considering the year off and all the transfers. COVID is a BW killer for sure.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Sept 13, 2021 21:21:18 GMT -5
Last full season the BW had three teams make the NCAA tourney and now not one team in the top 100 RPI. That is a pretty significant free fall but I guess not all unexpected considering the year off and all the transfers. COVID is a BW killer for sure. Figstats is not the official RPI. It's a snapshot.
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Post by trojansc on Sept 13, 2021 21:28:33 GMT -5
Last full season the BW had three teams make the NCAA tourney and now not one team in the top 100 RPI. That is a pretty significant free fall but I guess not all unexpected considering the year off and all the transfers. COVID is a BW killer for sure. Figstats is not the official RPI. It's a snapshot. It's 99% accurate to the actual RPI. if teams are essentially tied it can be off a spot or two. The only thing is that RPI is not really worth much at this point. In a few more weeks, it becomes more clear as to what the actual current rankings are. RPI futures are more valuable at this point. Even in RPI Futures though - the best Big West team is projected to be Hawaii at #91 with an 18-10 record.
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Post by SmokeDogg on Sept 15, 2021 10:46:23 GMT -5
I predicted CSUF would have a 15-15 record, but two teams we were expected to defeat cancelled, one because of its Louisiana location and the other because of Covid.
However the real problem is many hitting errors. We could be good if we stop making hitting errors.
Maybe by league Fullerton will have the problem corrected. Maybe!
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Post by HawaiiVB on Sept 15, 2021 12:07:51 GMT -5
Figstats is not the official RPI. It's a snapshot. It's 99% accurate to the actual RPI. if teams are essentially tied it can be off a spot or two. The only thing is that RPI is not really worth much at this point. In a few more weeks, it becomes more clear as to what the actual current rankings are. RPI futures are more valuable at this point. Even in RPI Futures though - the best Big West team is projected to be Hawaii at #91 with an 18-10 record. From the NCAA website, they don't use figstats for anything. Covid season 2020-2021 manual linked below. ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/championships/sports/volleyball/d1/women/2020-21D1WVB_PreChampsManual.pdf
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Post by trojansc on Sept 15, 2021 12:11:59 GMT -5
I'm aware. I'm telling you that the official RPI numbers they do use for selection are most of the time the exact same was what figstats is. In my experience of using figstats to predict the final field, I have never seen a team more than 1 spot off, and in that rare instance, it is essentially a tie in RPI standing. The RKPI from Rich Kern had much more errors and was not accurate when using that to predict the final RPI rankings that were not released until after the selection show. When the NCAA releases the first official RPI ranking, you'll see it will mirror figstats.
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Post by HawaiiVB on Sept 15, 2021 12:32:54 GMT -5
I'm aware. I'm telling you that the official RPI numbers they do use for selection are most of the time the exact same was what figstats is. In my experience of using figstats to predict the final field, I have never seen a team more than 1 spot off, and in that rare instance, it is essentially a tie in RPI standing. The RKPI from Rich Kern had much more errors and was not accurate when using that to predict the final RPI rankings that were not released until after the selection show. When the NCAA releases the first official RPI ranking, you'll see it will mirror figstats. Until they say it, for me, it's still a shiny toy a team can use as PR. Like with the AVCA coaches poll. These toys are good for PR.
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Post by trojansc on Sept 15, 2021 12:49:42 GMT -5
I'm aware. I'm telling you that the official RPI numbers they do use for selection are most of the time the exact same was what figstats is. In my experience of using figstats to predict the final field, I have never seen a team more than 1 spot off, and in that rare instance, it is essentially a tie in RPI standing. The RKPI from Rich Kern had much more errors and was not accurate when using that to predict the final RPI rankings that were not released until after the selection show. When the NCAA releases the first official RPI ranking, you'll see it will mirror figstats. Until they say it, for me, it's still a shiny toy a team can use as PR. Like with the AVCA coaches poll. These toys are good for PR. Why don’t you just compare figstats and Official RPI when the NCAA releases them? If it’s identical, it won’t change your mind?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 15, 2021 14:02:39 GMT -5
I'm aware. I'm telling you that the official RPI numbers they do use for selection are most of the time the exact same was what figstats is. In my experience of using figstats to predict the final field, I have never seen a team more than 1 spot off, and in that rare instance, it is essentially a tie in RPI standing. The RKPI from Rich Kern had much more errors and was not accurate when using that to predict the final RPI rankings that were not released until after the selection show. When the NCAA releases the first official RPI ranking, you'll see it will mirror figstats. Until they say it, for me, it's still a shiny toy a team can use as PR. Like with the AVCA coaches poll. These toys are good for PR. Figstats is always very close to the Official RPI, trojansc is right. Nobody uses figstats for PR but we've always paid attention to it since the Official RPI won't be released until next month. Hawai'i has to win the Big West to get into the tournament. The same is true for any Big West Team. The Big West is a one-bid Conference this year. The conference screwed itself by sitting out last season.
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Post by hapaguy on Sept 16, 2021 21:57:07 GMT -5
Nice win by UC Davis over Cal. I've watched a couple of UC Davis matches this preseason and they look pretty solid in spite of their 4-6 record. Same can be said of UCSB. I haven't seen Bakersfield play but I think those two (UC Davis & UCSB) along with Hawaii will be the leading contenders for the BigWest crown....
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 16, 2021 22:14:01 GMT -5
Poly lost 1-3 to LMU tonight but I’ll think they pull it together.
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Post by gouci on Sept 18, 2021 10:10:36 GMT -5
Friday quick results. Big West went 5-4 with 2 cancellations.
Washington St. def. UCSB 3-0
Sac. St. def. CSUN 3-1
Fullerton def. Cal Baptist 3-1
UC Riverside def. Texas Southern 3-1
UC San Diego def. San Francisco 3-2
UCSB def. VCU 3-1
Bakersfield def. Eastern Washington 3-1
St. Mary's def. UC Davis 3-0
Arizona def. UC Riverside 3-0
Bakersfield at Seattle canceled
Grand Canyon at UCI canceled
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Post by gouci on Sept 18, 2021 23:43:10 GMT -5
Saturday quick results.
The Big West went 3-5 with 1 cancellation.
San Diego St. sweeps UC Riverside 3-0.
LMU def. Cal Poly 3-1.
San Jose St. def. UC San Diego 3-1.
Nevada def. CSUN 3-1.
Washington St. def. UCSB 3-1.
Bakersfield sweeps Montana 3-0.
UC Irvine sweeps Cal Baptist 3-0.
Who would of thought Bake (7-1) and UCI (7-3) would go a combined 14-4 during non-conference?
Their records could of even been better if Bake's winnable match with Seattle and UCI's winnable match with Grand Canyon weren't both canceled. You can bet both teams are in position and fighting for a post season berth in the NIVC.
Long Beach St. upset #21 San Diego 3-1 (-20,-18,+19,-23).
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Post by atticus on Sept 19, 2021 0:24:52 GMT -5
Nice win by UC Davis over Cal. I've watched a couple of UC Davis matches this preseason and they look pretty solid in spite of their 4-6 record. Same can be said of UCSB. I haven't seen Bakersfield play but I think those two (UC Davis & UCSB) along with Hawaii will be the leading contenders for the BigWest crown.... do I have this right—Cal beat Saint Mary’s this week, Saint Mary’s swept UC Davis, and UCD beat Cal?
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Post by proftubed on Sept 19, 2021 10:05:32 GMT -5
Nice win by UC Davis over Cal. I've watched a couple of UC Davis matches this preseason and they look pretty solid in spite of their 4-6 record. Same can be said of UCSB. I haven't seen Bakersfield play but I think those two (UC Davis & UCSB) along with Hawaii will be the leading contenders for the BigWest crown.... do I have this right—Cal beat Saint Mary’s this week, Saint Mary’s swept UC Davis, and UCD beat Cal? Volleyball.
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