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Post by horns1 on Jul 22, 2021 10:45:10 GMT -5
I'm stating what I've read in the last 18 hours or so; not making up numbers out of thin air. Regardless, we'll both know what's accurate when new TV deals are finalized. Asking where you read? Not saying you created Have you bothered to read any of the national articles out there?
Here's one of many:
Oklahoma and Texas joining the SEC would reset the league’s television contracts. That would result in “an increase in revenue of at least 10 million a year for each of the league’s member institutions,” from revamped television contracts alone according to one source.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 22, 2021 10:46:40 GMT -5
I have also heard that TAM and MU are no - and speculation that the Mississippi schools s/b no. There has also been an unwritten rule that the SEC goes unanimous on this stuff. Also agree about the political pressures. In the end - I think the money will matter and this has real legs. I don't hate this - I welcome change. I mean, the school where I work probably won't be affected by this but chaos is bad for business. Also: WVU/Baylor/KState/Iowa St are fcked. Kansas could also be screwed. I just don't necessarily believe status quo is right or better.
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Post by horns1 on Jul 22, 2021 10:49:26 GMT -5
I mean, the school where I work probably won't be affected by this but chaos is bad for business. Also: WVU/Baylor/KState/Iowa St are fcked. Kansas could also be screwed. I just don't necessarily believe status quo is right or better. Kansas is the most realistic fit if the B1G wants to expand from 14 to 16 schools.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 22, 2021 10:51:18 GMT -5
The real question is… will the American Athletic Conference win or lose?
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 22, 2021 10:51:20 GMT -5
If you don't play each conference opponent every year in football, and have a home-and-home with every conference opponent every year in basketball/volleyball, then your conference has too many members. We passed this point many years ago. More teams = more content = bigger $$ TV contracts. Not necessarily. More money split by more schools my equal less money per school. Texas and Notre Dame are among the few that pay their way and would increase money for all teams. This isn't the case for most school adds. The Big 12 figured out that they could get more money per school with 10 then 12 (given the realistic options).
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Post by dodger on Jul 22, 2021 10:51:57 GMT -5
You disagree that A&M wanted to continue its sports rivalry with Texas despite bolting for the SEC? Many quotes out there from A&M if you want to bother searching the internet. Internet search: really: TexasA&M doesn't “need” texas: some fans were worried but most coaches and administrators couldnt wsit to get away Texas A&M has won eight national championships in the last three years. If A&M were to enter the SEC in 2012, the Aggies would automatically be one of the top three programs in the conference in men's basketball. A&M would compete with Tennessee as the top team in the conference in women's basketball. A&M would feature the top men's and women's track programs in the conference. The Aggies just went to the College World Series in baseball and would be competitive in the top college baseball conference in the country. The Ags soccer program is consistently ranked in the top 10 in the country. Texas A&M would compete for conference titles in the SEC in every sport in 2012. Article pro’s cons of SEC for A&M : not seeing need for A&M non revenue needing Texas:
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 22, 2021 10:52:07 GMT -5
Nah, KU to the ACC.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 22, 2021 10:53:36 GMT -5
We passed this point many years ago. More teams = more content = bigger $$ TV contracts. Not necessarily. More money split by more schools my equal less money per school. Texas and Notre Dame are among the few that pay their way and would increase money for all teams. This isn't the case for most school adds. The Big 12 figured out that they could get more money per school with 10 then 12 (given the realistic options). One of the dumbest things the Big XII ever did was *not* invite a couple G5 schools five years ago.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 22, 2021 10:54:17 GMT -5
This is an aside, but count me as extremely skeptical these massive TV deals can only keep going up.
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Post by dodger on Jul 22, 2021 10:55:06 GMT -5
Asking where you read? Not saying you created Have you bothered to read any of the national articles out there?
Here's one of many:
Oklahoma and Texas joining the SEC would reset the league’s television contracts. That would result in “an increase in revenue of at least 10 million a year for each of the league’s member institutions,” from revamped television contracts alone according to one source.
It appears part of that number comes from a 12 team playoff for College Football Championship: and presumption they get more teams from conference into that playoff
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 22, 2021 10:56:53 GMT -5
Kansas could also be screwed. I just don't necessarily believe status quo is right or better. Kansas is the most realistic fit if the B1G wants to expand from 14 to 16 schools. I have always heard Kansas potentially to the B1G - but who would also go? Do they take a school from the ACC (Syracuse/Boston College). Does this allow a landing spot for West Virginia? Then maybe the remaining B12 combines with some Mountain West schools and form a decent football conference: Baylor, TCU, SMU, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Iowa State, BYU, Wyoming, Boise State?
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 22, 2021 11:00:06 GMT -5
Not necessarily. More money split by more schools my equal less money per school. Texas and Notre Dame are among the few that pay their way and would increase money for all teams. This isn't the case for most school adds. The Big 12 figured out that they could get more money per school with 10 then 12 (given the realistic options). One of the dumbest things the Big XII ever did was *not* invite a couple G5 schools five years ago. It would have been a short-term money loser. The viability of the conference was always going to be keeping Texas, w/o Texas the conference doesn't exist as a legit P5 conference. Adding other teams would only have decreased the money per team and not improved the chances of keeping Texas. I think they would be in the same spot now is they had a couple more schools.
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 22, 2021 11:02:24 GMT -5
This would make more sense for Basketball - and basketball runs KU sports. Their fan base would rather see this than going West (and more late games). The 'rest' of the B12 cannot be choosey - they are just going to be looking for a landing spot.
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 22, 2021 11:03:12 GMT -5
Question from someone who doesn't really follow any of this: If this move somehow gets blocked, is the Texas departure and displacement of the rest of the conference still inevitable? Is there mutual interest from the B1G?
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Post by vergyltantor on Jul 22, 2021 11:11:29 GMT -5
Question from someone who doesn't really follow any of this: If this move somehow gets blocked, is the Texas departure and displacement of the rest of the conference still inevitable? Is there mutual interest from the B1G? It's hard to guage the B1G interest. If Delany was still the commissioner, I would guess yes. I don't know if Kevin Warren has enough influence yet to push something like this through, and Texas might be seen as too disruptive for a conference that values stability.
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