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Post by ay2013 on Jul 26, 2021 12:41:33 GMT -5
Hmmmm do you really think we are all going to structure our draft and weekly rosters with the intention of winning all 5 categories each week? That’s a pretty big gamble. Gamble? How is it a gamble? I'm not betting/risking anything lol. And of course not -- hence why I used the words incentives and encourage. A 5-0 victory being twice as valuable as a 3-2 victory is pretty good motivation. I think the only way to get to a 5-0 win is by factors you can't control (a bunch of match cancellations or injuries) or both rosters play pretty much the same strategy and your "balanced" roster beats their "balanced" roster. It is a gamble for us participants because the moment you face a team that does NOT also have a balanced roster there is no way to win all 5 categories and you also run the risk of even when you do play another "balanced" roster for the week, they will win all 5 categories. Just seems like a lot of things have to go right to purposefully have a roster setup to win all 5 categories each week.
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Post by donut on Jul 26, 2021 12:53:04 GMT -5
Gamble? How is it a gamble? I'm not betting/risking anything lol. And of course not -- hence why I used the words incentives and encourage. A 5-0 victory being twice as valuable as a 3-2 victory is pretty good motivation. I think the only way to get to a 5-0 win is by factors you can't control (a bunch of match cancellations or injuries) or both rosters play pretty much the same strategy and your "balanced" roster beats their "balanced" roster. It is a gamble for us participants because the moment you face a team that does NOT also have a balanced roster there is no way to win all 5 categories and you also run the risk of even when you do play another "balanced" roster for the week, they will win all 5 categories. Just seems like a lot of things have to go right to purposefully have a roster setup to win all 5 categories each week. Then don't take the gamble lol
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 26, 2021 12:59:06 GMT -5
I think the only way to get to a 5-0 win is by factors you can't control (a bunch of match cancellations or injuries) or both rosters play pretty much the same strategy and your "balanced" roster beats their "balanced" roster. It is a gamble for us participants because the moment you face a team that does NOT also have a balanced roster there is no way to win all 5 categories and you also run the risk of even when you do play another "balanced" roster for the week, they will win all 5 categories. Just seems like a lot of things have to go right to purposefully have a roster setup to win all 5 categories each week. Then don't take the gamble lol I didn't plan to, I'm just explaining WHY it's a gamble....you seemed to be under the impression that it wasn't- "Gamble? How is it a gamble? I'm not betting/risking anything lol."
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Post by donut on Jul 26, 2021 13:00:29 GMT -5
Then don't take the gamble lol I didn't plan to, I'm just explaining WHY it's a gamble....you seemed to be under the impression that it wasn't- "Gamble? How is it a gamble? I'm not betting/risking anything lol." Yeah, I read your post to say it was a gamble for us to write the rules that way. "Hmmmm do you really think we are all going to structure our draft and weekly rosters with the intention of winning all 5 categories each week? That’s a pretty big gamble."My mistake.
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 26, 2021 20:28:58 GMT -5
Ok, legit questions: "Each team is allotted a maximum of four substitutions per week. There are two types of substitutions: FLOATING substitution: you may substitute a player from your bench onto your active roster if the active player did not play in any scheduled match during the current week of competition. FREE substitution: after any floating substitutions are made, you may choose to make one FREE substitution of any active player for any remaining bench player of the same position" I read to to mean that a free substitution only takes places "after any floating substitutions are made". Therefore, if you don't make a floating substitution, you can't make a free substitution. Is that your intention or does every team essentially have 1 free substitution per week? Also for more clarification, on the free substitutions it says an active player for any remaining bench player of the same position. Is it the position on the active roster or the position the player actually plays? The reason why I ask is that there are 3 "Any Player" positions on the active roster. If I fill one of those with a setter, and choose to free substitute that player, must I pick another setter or can I pick any player on my bench regardless of actual position? No, you can make a free substitution without a floating substitution. We did it this way so that you get all of your players in who had stats (and your players out who didn't have stats) and then you can use the free substitution on any of those players. Order, IMO, will rarely be an issue, especially since you have to submit all of your substitutions at once. @allamerican11 and I will discuss the last question and update the rules. Thanks for flagging this! Did we get any resolution on this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2021 23:03:55 GMT -5
No, you can make a free substitution without a floating substitution. We did it this way so that you get all of your players in who had stats (and your players out who didn't have stats) and then you can use the free substitution on any of those players. Order, IMO, will rarely be an issue, especially since you have to submit all of your substitutions at once. @allamerican11 and I will discuss the last question and update the rules. Thanks for flagging this! Did we get any resolution on this? ”Any” or “any position” is not a position. It’s a spot on the roster. The athletes in the “any” spots still have positions. I think that’s where the confusion comes from.
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 26, 2021 23:13:18 GMT -5
Did we get any resolution on this? ”Any” or “any position” is not a position. It’s a spot on the roster. The athletes in the “any” spots still have positions. I think that’s where the confusion comes from. Ok so if I have a setter filling my “any” position, and choose to sub that player with my free sub, I MUST choose another setter from my bench?
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Post by donut on Jul 26, 2021 23:16:06 GMT -5
To clarify: for. FLOATING substitution you can replace the player with any player as long as your roster still meets the active roster requirements. For FREE, the player must play the same position.
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Post by donut on Jul 26, 2021 23:16:21 GMT -5
”Any” or “any position” is not a position. It’s a spot on the roster. The athletes in the “any” spots still have positions. I think that’s where the confusion comes from. Ok so if I have a setter filling my “any” position, and choose to sub that player with my free sub, I MUST choose another setter from my bench? Yes.
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Post by trojansc on Jul 26, 2021 23:21:14 GMT -5
To clarify: for. FLOATING substitution you can replace the player with any player as long as your roster still meets the active roster requirements. For FREE, the player must play the same position. I think it all makes sense now The 3 'ANY' spots still count for roster minimums if substitutions come into play. So for example, when submitting a roster, you don't even have to specify who the 'ANY's are, right? Just as long as you have 3OH, 2MB, 1L, 1S.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 0:17:25 GMT -5
To clarify: for. FLOATING substitution you can replace the player with any player as long as your roster still meets the active roster requirements. For FREE, the player must play the same position. I think it all makes sense now The 3 'ANY' spots still count for roster minimums if substitutions come into play. So for example, when submitting a roster, you don't even have to specify who the 'ANY's are, right? Just as long as you have 3OH, 2MB, 1L, 1S. They should be specified and submitted as per the rules.
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Post by vballfan17 on Jul 27, 2021 21:33:12 GMT -5
I’m going to apologize in advance- I’m traveling Friday and this whole weekend, so my picks may take some time but I’ll definitely try to send my picks to the admins when I can.
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 28, 2021 19:40:28 GMT -5
I think it all makes sense now The 3 'ANY' spots still count for roster minimums if substitutions come into play. So for example, when submitting a roster, you don't even have to specify who the 'ANY's are, right? Just as long as you have 3OH, 2MB, 1L, 1S. They should be specified and submitted as per the rules. Ok, to take this one step further (forgive me, the whole sub thing is recent and I haven't played an iteration of it) for clarification. Dunc said- "To clarify: for. FLOATING substitution you can replace the player with any player as long as your roster still meets the active roster requirements. For FREE, the player must play the same position." Shhhh said- "They should be specified and submitted as per the rules." (this is in regards to Trojan asking if we need to actually designate players into their active roster positions" So, here is a scenario: This is my active roster: OH: A (OH) OH: B (OH) OH: C (OH) MB: D (MB) MB: E (MB) S: F (Setter) L: G (Libero) Any player: H (MB) Any player: I (Libero) Any player: J (Setter) This is my bench: K (OH) L (Setter) M (MB) N (Libero) In the event of my FREE substitution, I can pick any player from my active roster and swap them for a player from the bench who has the same ( ) designation. i.e. if A, B, C is subbed out I can ONLY choose player K to replace them; or if player J is subbed out, I can ONLY replace them with player L. With the FLOATING substitution, dunc said you can replace the player with ANY player so long as the active roster requirements are met and shhhh said we have to slot specific players per the active roster. If player D doesn't play (player D is specifically slotted for 1 of 2 MB requirements), since I already have another MB (player H) as an "any player" on the active roster, am I able to move player H into that mandatory 2 MB requirement slot and select a different player all together, like player K (OH) to fill the "any" slot? I *THINK* this is the question Trojan was trying to understand.
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Post by donut on Jul 28, 2021 19:51:06 GMT -5
They should be specified and submitted as per the rules. If player D doesn't play (player D is specifically slotted for 1 of 2 MB requirements), since I already have another MB (player H) as an "any player" on the active roster, am I able to move player H into that mandatory 2 MB requirement slot and select a different player all together, like player K (OH) to fill the "any" slot? Yes, since you may not have a replacement on the bench for the injured/sick/absent player of the same position (maybe you played all of your MBs). We don't want participants to get stuck with injured players for a week just because they have a certain team roster composition.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2021 20:34:55 GMT -5
Y’all are confusing the hell out of me with these scenarios.
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