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Post by Spike Town on Jul 26, 2021 12:43:19 GMT -5
Statistically speaking, the serve/pass battle in this match is fascinating.
USA 5 aces and 25 errors Russia 7 aces and 23 errors
I think the average fan watched last night and thought the missed serves were primary to the defeat but the numbers don’t really reflect that.
Plus, USAs reception numbers were actually better!
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Post by volleyfan24 on Jul 26, 2021 12:50:13 GMT -5
Statistically speaking, the serve/pass battle in this match is fascinating. USA 5 aces and 25 errors Russia 7 aces and 23 errors I think the average fan watched last night and thought the missed serves were primary to the defeat but the numbers don’t really reflect that. Plus, USAs reception numbers were actually better! I think our receptions were amazing especially Shoji he deserves his flowers cause his passing was great but when you miss that many serves down the stretch of a set especially when you are leading to discount that serving played a factor doesn’t take a volleyball expert to recognize. Also sets were splitting hairs it’s not like any set was a blowout. Those points matter. Do we need to consistently serve bombs into the net to keep the service pressure on or would it better to take a more conservative or different approach to maximize efficiency from the service line? Either way it makes the game ugly to watch. It was entertaining but there were stretches where it was both teams just serving with no action.
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Post by netsetter on Jul 26, 2021 13:01:32 GMT -5
I don't think service errors as a whole were the reason we lost. I think we had a run of untimely, consecutive service errors at the end of the second set. The match looks a lot different going into the fourth set up 2-1 than down 1-2.
(it was during that run of service errors when we fell down 25-26 that there Christenson called at DeFalco to get back in the huddle)
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Post by Spike Town on Jul 26, 2021 13:07:31 GMT -5
Statistically speaking, the serve/pass battle in this match is fascinating. USA 5 aces and 25 errors Russia 7 aces and 23 errors I think the average fan watched last night and thought the missed serves were primary to the defeat but the numbers don’t really reflect that. Plus, USAs reception numbers were actually better! I think our receptions were amazing especially Shoji he deserves his flowers cause his passing was great but when you miss that many serves down the stretch of a set especially when you are leading to discount that serving played a factor doesn’t take a volleyball expert to recognize. Also sets were splitting hairs it’s not like any set was a blowout. Those points matter. Do we need to consistently serve bombs into the net to keep the service pressure on or would it better to take a more conservative or different approach to maximize efficiency from the service line? Either way it makes the game ugly to watch. It was entertaining but there were stretches where it was both teams just serving with no action. I agree. I just can’t believe there isn’t room for a hybrid, off-speed, float in the servers arsenal of options. If a major league pitcher can have multiple pitches, why can’t a server?
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Post by Spike Town on Jul 26, 2021 13:10:21 GMT -5
Statistically speaking, the serve/pass battle in this match is fascinating. USA 5 aces and 25 errors Russia 7 aces and 23 errors I think the average fan watched last night and thought the missed serves were primary to the defeat but the numbers don’t really reflect that. Plus, USAs reception numbers were actually better! I think our receptions were amazing especially Shoji he deserves his flowers cause his passing was great but when you miss that many serves down the stretch of a set especially when you are leading to discount that serving played a factor doesn’t take a volleyball expert to recognize. Also sets were splitting hairs it’s not like any set was a blowout. Those points matter. Do we need to consistently serve bombs into the net to keep the service pressure on or would it better to take a more conservative or different approach to maximize efficiency from the service line? Either way it makes the game ugly to watch. It was entertaining but there were stretches where it was both teams just serving with no action. The liberos lead their teams in reception attempts and I thought both held up well.
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Post by akbar on Jul 26, 2021 13:21:37 GMT -5
Again, USA was in a good situation to win 3-0 or 3-1 deep in each game.
It was a tough match for both teams and the USA team is playing well for the most part in all of its 7 games this Olympiad.
Not many teams can say that.
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Post by gtrich on Jul 26, 2021 17:36:23 GMT -5
I think our receptions were amazing especially Shoji he deserves his flowers cause his passing was great but when you miss that many serves down the stretch of a set especially when you are leading to discount that serving played a factor doesn’t take a volleyball expert to recognize. Also sets were splitting hairs it’s not like any set was a blowout. Those points matter. Do we need to consistently serve bombs into the net to keep the service pressure on or would it better to take a more conservative or different approach to maximize efficiency from the service line? Either way it makes the game ugly to watch. It was entertaining but there were stretches where it was both teams just serving with no action. I agree. I just can’t believe there isn’t room for a hybrid, off-speed, float in the servers arsenal of options. If a major league pitcher can have multiple pitches, why can’t a server? I hate the service errors from the missed bomb servers as much as anybody, but look at what happened when the one Russian player lobbed over those weak floaters/top spin serves. The US passed them and then crushed them into the floor with some of the hardest hits I saw throughout the entire game. From a risk/reward perspective, the low risk, super reliable, easy float or topspin serve ends up getting your team killed because it's basically a free-ball to the other team.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 26, 2021 17:47:05 GMT -5
It’s kinda weird y’all saying USA didn’t play well. We had some clunkers at the end of sets, but I don’t think we should expect to exceed that level of play overall. Micah was really good.
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Post by basil on Jul 26, 2021 18:00:02 GMT -5
It’s kinda weird y’all saying USA didn’t play well. We had some clunkers at the end of sets, but I don’t think we should expect to exceed that level of play overall. Micah was really good. I don't think anyone said that we played badly. It's just unfortunate that we hit these streaks of service errors at the end of sets. I think they'll learn from this though.
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Post by wilbur on Jul 26, 2021 18:04:37 GMT -5
Lots to learn. The bench stepped up which was nice I agree, but the ROC bench did too and more so.
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Post by wilbur on Jul 26, 2021 18:06:49 GMT -5
Matt Anderson can’t find a kill late here transition sets were killer and matt's implosion at the end here was a problem. he wasn't getting sets to work with, he does look like his cross court swing is lacking the pop it used to have, shoulder getting old.
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Post by yeewww on Jul 26, 2021 18:08:41 GMT -5
I know some people already touched on this but I thought the substitution pattern in the 4th was extremely questionable. I liked bringing TJ in for blocking late in the game but why do you reverse it for GM in row 4 where he's the only pin in the front row needing a sideout? Also, why do we bring in the double sub when Micah is one of our best blockers? Pretty tough spot for Kyle Ensing to get his first court time when it's tight in the early 20's. Would love to hear what everyone else thought of that. Overall, the guys played great. A few minor tweaks and we have that match
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Post by cyberVBmidwest on Jul 26, 2021 18:09:59 GMT -5
Love all of the passion on the USA match play. I also agree that VT is a place where everyone should share their opinions. BUT, I do get a big smile on those who criticize decisions. They are all people who have no idea is what it takes and the full context of the decisions made by coaches. Go out there and help a youth/HS/College team and face those decisions and then share. I used to complain about the officials until I became one. After my experience I still saw bad calls but I didn't yell at the official because I knew how difficult it is to be up on the stand. Same for coaching...
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Post by wilbur on Jul 26, 2021 18:28:43 GMT -5
It’s kinda weird y’all saying USA didn’t play well. We had some clunkers at the end of sets, but I don’t think we should expect to exceed that level of play overall. Micah was really good. "really" good might be a little too generous but he wasn't bad. A few moments that could be improved on; some in system sets to MA better located could have been the difference we needed.
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Post by waynevb1 on Jul 26, 2021 22:31:43 GMT -5
This was one of those matches where USA just failed to execute beyond 20. When you get to those last 5 points of a set, it's crunch time and you gotta make plays. And unfortunately, it seemed to be the veterans who are wishing they had some of those opportunities back. The final set was a perfect example...
USA leads 21-18 --Stahl missed serve (21-19) --Anderson hits out (21-20) --ROC missed serve (22-20) --Holt net violation during hitter coverage (22-21) --Anderson blocked (22-22) --Anderson sets Muagututia way too tight...ROC actually kills the set (22-23) --Christiansen saves tight pass...ROC called blocking the set (23-23) --ROC kill in the middle (23-24) --Sander hits out (23-25)
So really, our only 2 points in that stretch were ROC errors. And more concerning, all of their 7 points were basically our errors or mistakes. USA didn't play badly. Against these top teams (Poland, Brazil, Russia, etc), you gotta expect close scoring and/or deuce sets. But you're not gonna win any if you don't execute in crunch time.
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