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Post by baybridgevb on Aug 2, 2021 0:08:27 GMT -5
Reliance on a system should be for teams that don’t have as athletically gifted or skilled players. When you have some of the best players in the world, a tight system isn’t necessarily needed. Especially at this level. Many believe David Hunt at Pepperdine is the next USA Men’s Coach, and he’s stated that he’s not a “System Guy.” I think this approach/model is what USA needs to follow. Most other teams have the same guys all coming up and playing together bs the USA teams are always a core group of returning guys plus a bunch of guys that get added so it’s hard for us to have a “team” vs a bunch of talented individual players. Plus Speraw is pretty openly a homer and a nepotist with his UCLA guys. I have also heard coach Hunt say this. At a coaching clinic he mentioned his system was to get the best out of the players he has. Maybe that’s what our professionals need.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 0:20:40 GMT -5
Many believe David Hunt at Pepperdine is the next USA Men’s Coach, and he’s stated that he’s not a “System Guy.” I think this approach/model is what USA needs to follow. Most other teams have the same guys all coming up and playing together bs the USA teams are always a core group of returning guys plus a bunch of guys that get added so it’s hard for us to have a “team” vs a bunch of talented individual players. Plus Speraw is pretty openly a homer and a nepotist with his UCLA guys. I have also heard coach Hunt say this. At a coaching clinic he mentioned his system was to get the best out of the players he has. Maybe that’s what our professionals need. ? One of the biggest problems with the men is the fact that there is zero system. Supposedly, their system was running the majority of the offense through the middle/bic, but that hasn’t happened consistently since before Rio. Christenson just does whatever the hell he wants. There’s no serving philosophy beyond just ripping it every single time. Defensively, our libero is playing both middle and left back. Our middles appear to be doing nothing beyond reacting on the block. Before this season, Speraw bailed on Anderson at OPP any time the team went down more than a set. I think the team could definitely benefit from some structure. I’d argue that all we’ve done is let people be individuals. There’s been no system. Side note: do we really think Anderson-Sander-DeFalco was a better option without Russell than Anderson-Sander-Ensing? I don’t.
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Post by CoastalVB on Aug 2, 2021 0:35:31 GMT -5
Speraw talks a big game and always has excuses but he hasn’t won much at UCLA or National team. Time to move in another direction… Bronze medal in Rio counts.
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Post by archiepelago on Aug 2, 2021 3:42:43 GMT -5
I have also heard coach Hunt say this. At a coaching clinic he mentioned his system was to get the best out of the players he has. Maybe that’s what our professionals need. ? One of the biggest problems with the men is the fact that there is zero system. Supposedly, their system was running the majority of the offense through the middle/bic, but that hasn’t happened consistently since before Rio. Christenson just does whatever the hell he wants. There’s no serving philosophy beyond just ripping it every single time. Defensively, our libero is playing both middle and left back. Our middles appear to be doing nothing beyond reacting on the block. Before this season, Speraw bailed on Anderson at OPP any time the team went down more than a set. I think the team could definitely benefit from some structure. I’d argue that all we’ve done is let people be individuals. There’s been no system. Side note: do we really think Anderson-Sander-DeFalco was a better option without Russell than Anderson-Sander-Ensing? I don’t. I asked the same question during the VNL. But people just accused me of hating on defalco. Defalco is good but his floor defense lacks discipline. He can block and spike thats for sure but in international competition, defense is more important. There's three years left before the next olympins. Defalco should try to be better in his reception and digging.
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Post by ballervolley on Aug 2, 2021 4:29:17 GMT -5
us needed to consider another libero long ago, e. shoji is not the one anymore he can't pass well and hasn't done anything spectacular like the other liberos.
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Post by euroleaguewatcher on Aug 2, 2021 4:34:05 GMT -5
Speraw talks a big game and always has excuses but he hasn’t won much at UCLA or National team. Time to move in another direction… Bronze medal in Rio counts. Ok I remember it now. Speraw said Bronze is like Rose Gold. 😂
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Post by volleycoachiq on Aug 2, 2021 5:37:12 GMT -5
us needed to consider another libero long ago, e. shoji is not the one anymore he can't pass well and hasn't done anything spectacular like the other liberos. I still like Eric but his passing wasn’t as good as it normally is. I always feel like his defense is subpar but overlook it with excellent passing.
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Post by volleycoachiq on Aug 2, 2021 5:40:14 GMT -5
I have also heard coach Hunt say this. At a coaching clinic he mentioned his system was to get the best out of the players he has. Maybe that’s what our professionals need. ? One of the biggest problems with the men is the fact that there is zero system. Supposedly, their system was running the majority of the offense through the middle/bic, but that hasn’t happened consistently since before Rio. Christenson just does whatever the hell he wants. There’s no serving philosophy beyond just ripping it every single time. Defensively, our libero is playing both middle and left back. Our middles appear to be doing nothing beyond reacting on the block. Before this season, Speraw bailed on Anderson at OPP any time the team went down more than a set. I think the team could definitely benefit from some structure. I’d argue that all we’ve done is let people be individuals. There’s been no system. Side note: do we really think Anderson-Sander-DeFalco was a better option without Russell than Anderson-Sander-Ensing? I don’t. I for sure thought we should have done Anderson swap with ensing at opp yesterday. With Eric’s woes yesterday, I was actually thinking Sander at bro, Anderson and TJ at outside, kawika comes in to set, and the middles are smith and stahl. Major changes but we needed to change the lineup significantly yesterday and just weren’t doing it with the normal guys.
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Post by akbar on Aug 2, 2021 6:01:05 GMT -5
us needed to consider another libero long ago, e. shoji is not the one anymore he can't pass well and hasn't done anything spectacular like the other liberos. I still like Eric but his passing wasn’t as good as it normally is. I always feel like his defense is subpar but overlook it with excellent passing. Shoji is our best libero and one of the best in the world still but he doesn't take much territory and his range is rather small on serve receive. This put a lot more responsibilities on the OHs compared to other national teams. It's not a complaint but rather a factual observation.
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Post by akbar on Aug 2, 2021 6:07:46 GMT -5
Not having Russell hurt a ton...maybe 2 tons...maybe 3.
Taylor playing on a bum wheel hurt.
Andrea Becker was missed.
Not resting Anderson in Tunisia hurt.
Was Thomas Jaeschke 100%?
Pretty much every team who advanced is healthy and at full strength, especially in the Pool of Death.(except US)
All things considered we still could have advanced but we were unable and in the end we looked like an emotionally and physically drained team.
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Post by Disc808 on Aug 2, 2021 8:25:50 GMT -5
I think Anderson on the left / Ensing on the right is an interesting and decent idea in theory, although I think it would've worked out better if Patch improved his consistency and ball control bc he can be more terminal than Ensing.
Looking at Ensing's VNL stats: 70-25-158 which is 0.284 efficiency. Anderson was 77-20-141 which is 0.404 efficiency. At the Olympics, Anderson hit 0.330 and DeFalco hit 0.302 which is not that bad.
I think if Ensing was the full time opposite, that would've put more pressure on Anderson and Sander to score OOS. Although, the passing unit would definitely look different and perhaps stronger? It's definitely an idea that is interesting to think about in hindsight.
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Post by akbar on Aug 2, 2021 9:07:07 GMT -5
I think Anderson on the left / Looking at Ensing's VNL stats: 70-25-158 which is 0.284 efficiency. Anderson was 77-20-141 which is 0.404 efficiency. At the Olympics, Anderson hit 0.330 and DeFalco hit 0.302 which is not that bad. For much of this tourney the US led or was near the top of Offensive charts. That was never the problem Our downfall was OSS key missed plays, untimely personal and team serve receive errors, and the obvious " do what you think is best and comfortable serve philosphy"(btw which led to overthinking and bad misses) That last part is certainly on these Vets...but also on the staff.
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Post by myhouse911 on Aug 2, 2021 15:52:06 GMT -5
? One of the biggest problems with the men is the fact that there is zero system. Supposedly, their system was running the majority of the offense through the middle/bic, but that hasn’t happened consistently since before Rio. Christenson just does whatever the hell he wants. There’s no serving philosophy beyond just ripping it every single time. Defensively, our libero is playing both middle and left back. Our middles appear to be doing nothing beyond reacting on the block. Before this season, Speraw bailed on Anderson at OPP any time the team went down more than a set. I think the team could definitely benefit from some structure. I’d argue that all we’ve done is let people be individuals. There’s been no system. Side note: do we really think Anderson-Sander-DeFalco was a better option without Russell than Anderson-Sander-Ensing? I don’t. I for sure thought we should have done Anderson swap with ensing at opp yesterday. With Eric’s woes yesterday, I was actually thinking Sander at bro, Anderson and TJ at outside, kawika comes in to set, and the middles are smith and stahl. Major changes but we needed to change the lineup significantly yesterday and just weren’t doing it with the normal guys. Sander wasn’t able to be Libero, nor was anyone else.
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Post by wilbur on Aug 3, 2021 16:55:08 GMT -5
Finally have the stomach to read and post to this thread. So sad that the team wasn't able to challenge the odds against them successfully. I do think they followed the strategy they needed to for any chance of a medal. They went for it and it clearly wasn't enough. Maybe they would have gotten out of pool with a different game plan but that would have been it. I don't think any different roster choices would have made meaningful differences in results at this olympics.
Obvious main issue was serving and passing, and for what ever reason, the team wasn't able to perform at the level needed. It was hard to watch, and to see them realize it that last game. It is so difficult to execute serves at the level needed to win. It is amazing to watch the teams that can do it consistently, RUS, BRA, POL. I think the 100% attack jump serve is the ultimate physical challenge at this level, both serving and passing the margins off error are extremely slim. I would like to see a couple jump float servers executed on a consistent basis, none of those other teams bring the spin serve from all 6 players like we did if I am not mistaken.
It felt like there was just too much age, too many injuries and lack of depth that narrowed that gap the USA team had to pass though.
The forest has to burn once in a while to stay healthy and this last quad felt like a scorcher!
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