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Post by jwvolley on Aug 2, 2021 18:32:36 GMT -5
No worse than what Poulter was doing. poulter did not of this from what i saw. all the replays are on the website bb |
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Post by ballervolley on Aug 2, 2021 18:41:52 GMT -5
poulter did not of this from what i saw. all the replays are on the website bb ok i get it people think that hancock set a perfect game. lol |
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Post by volleyjeep on Aug 2, 2021 18:45:11 GMT -5
all the replays are on the website bb ok i get it people think that hancock set a perfect game. lol Wow! No one is saying that. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 2, 2021 18:50:45 GMT -5
No worse than what Poulter was doing. poulter did none of this from what i saw. Oh...Poulter did some of that. She couldn't set middle. Like. AT ALL |
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Post by m on Aug 2, 2021 19:00:02 GMT -5
why do some of y'all hate hancock so much. like i get it, you wish carlini was chosen instead, but exaggerating every single error hancock makes seems so petty. i thought she did a great job stepping up yesterday when jordyn got injured and set her hitters really well but say whatever you want ig
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 2, 2021 19:09:59 GMT -5
why do some of y'all hate hancock so much. like i get it, you wish carlini was chosen instead, but exaggerating every single error hancock makes seems so petty. i thought she did a great job stepping up yesterday when jordyn got injured and set her hitters really well but say whatever you want ig She was fine. She struggled with the bic and outside. To say otherwise is simply wrong. |
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Post by aquaphortm on Aug 2, 2021 19:25:14 GMT -5
From my eyes, Poulter was chosen because she sets the "USA fast" system better to the outsides than both Hancock and Carlini (before the Olympics, she set the middle pretty well, too), plus she's tall on the block. Hancock, on the other hand, sets the middles the best out of the three setters, probably because she has had the most time setting Foluke (2018 WCH) and Washington (Club and Penn State), plus her serve was an indicator for her selection. Carlini, however, can set the right-side the best out of the three, whilst lacking middle attacks, except for the slide. Carlini is also the best right-back defender in the world and has so much fire in her playing.
IMO, Poulter is the best setter for USA's system, more consistent on the outsides (Even Robinson says that Poulter's sets are easier to hit). Hancock, despite the wonky sets the past few games, sets the middles the best. Carlini creates the most space for our opposites and plays incredible defense.
Three different setters, for sure.
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Post by eazy on Aug 2, 2021 19:28:19 GMT -5
In what universe is Kelsey not n outside hitter you can only roster twelve players you can’t roster six subs for every possible scenario I didn’t say she’s not an outside hitter. Please keep up. It’s sad. I said she’s not an attacker. MBH is an attacker. How many times do you need to be shown that a Kelsey-Larson pairing doesn’t work SWP is the attacking replacement for MBH. None of the other options are. I would drop Hill. Why can’t Plummer be the hitting replacement? I’d take Plummer over SWP for now and the long run. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 19:30:17 GMT -5
I didn’t say she’s not an outside hitter. Please keep up. It’s sad. I said she’s not an attacker. MBH is an attacker. How many times do you need to be shown that a Kelsey-Larson pairing doesn’t work SWP is the attacking replacement for MBH. None of the other options are. I would drop Hill. Why can’t Plummer be the hitting replacement? I’d take Plummer over SWP for now and the long run. Because SWP is better now. And is the better passer/has more experience passing internationally. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 19:31:16 GMT -5
Plummer is the future.
SWP should've been there for Tokyo and should be there for '22.
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 2, 2021 19:33:50 GMT -5
I didn’t say she’s not an outside hitter. Please keep up. It’s sad. I said she’s not an attacker. MBH is an attacker. How many times do you need to be shown that a Kelsey-Larson pairing doesn’t work SWP is the attacking replacement for MBH. None of the other options are. I would drop Hill. Why can’t Plummer be the hitting replacement? I’d take Plummer over SWP for now and the long run. Because SWP lit up a top 2 pro league in the world playing both pins with little offensive help. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 2, 2021 19:50:57 GMT -5
In what universe is Kelsey not n outside hitter you can only roster twelve players you can’t roster six subs for every possible scenario I didn’t say she’s not an outside hitter. Please keep up. It’s sad. I said she’s not an attacker. MBH is an attacker. How many times do you need to be shown that a Kelsey-Larson pairing doesn’t work SWP is the attacking replacement for MBH. None of the other options are. I would drop Hill. I thought I read in one of your posts that you said Kelsey wasn’t an OH, if you didn’t, my apologies for crediting that to you. I get all of what you’re saying, with the exception of SWP being the hitting replacement for MBH, SWP is the hitting replacement in your opinion. To this point I’ve never seen in any match of significance where they played SWP ahead of a Kelsey, Bartsch or hill for that matter. I see no scenario where they would have played SWP over Kelsey even if as you say she’s better OOS attacker. Again ,I get all of your points, and while you ask “when has the pairing of Larson/Robo been good enough at the highest level? I would counter with when has the pairing of SWP and Larson ever happened in a match of significance or ever? I see the same problems as other people, but the assumption SWP being the answer or would perform better, that’s an enormous assumption. Could SWP do better? I guess, but again, with a limited roster you can create a roster for every and all scenarios. Robinson has shown far more than SWP has shown she can play at the pin in high level matches wearing red, white and Blue. From what I’ve seen of Bartsch, Robinson and SWP in USA matches I’m nowhere near convinced SWP gives us a better chance to win. This of course is my opinion, and my point is people are presenting SWP would as a fact. |
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Post by vbstan123 on Aug 2, 2021 20:00:08 GMT -5
No worse than what Poulter was doing. poulter did none of this from what i saw. HA. I'm so sorry I just laughed out loud. There hasn't been a set in this whole Olympics where Pouter didn't misconnect with a middle. Take several seats. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 20:06:08 GMT -5
I didn’t say she’s not an outside hitter. Please keep up. It’s sad. I said she’s not an attacker. MBH is an attacker. How many times do you need to be shown that a Kelsey-Larson pairing doesn’t work SWP is the attacking replacement for MBH. None of the other options are. I would drop Hill. I thought I read in one of your posts that you said Kelsey wasn’t an OH, if you didn’t, my apologies for crediting that to you. I get all of what you’re saying, with the exception of SWP being the hitting replacement for MBH, SWP is the hitting replacement in your opinion. To this point I’ve never seen in any match of significance where they played SWP ahead of a Kelsey, Bartsch or hill for that matter. I see no scenario where they would have played SWP over Kelsey even if as you say she’s better OOS attacker. Again ,I get all of your points, and while you ask “when has the pairing of Larson/Robo been good enough at the highest level? I would counter with when has the pairing of SWP and Larson ever happened in a match of significance or ever? I see the same problems as other people, but the assumption SWP being the answer or would perform better, that’s an enormous assumption. Could SWP do better? I guess, but again, with a limited roster you can create a roster for every and all scenarios. Robinson has shown far more than SWP has shown she can play at the pin in high level matches wearing red, white and Blue. From what I’ve seen of Bartsch, Robinson and SWP in USA matches I’m nowhere near convinced SWP gives us a better chance to win. This of course is my opinion, and my point is people are presenting SWP would as a fact. I got time. Let's dissect this. "To this point I’ve never seen in any match of significance where they played SWP ahead of a Kelsey, Bartsch or hill for that matter." You don't watch the Turkish League. That's why. Or probably any professional volleyball for that matter. "I see no scenario where they would have played SWP over Kelsey even if as you say she’s better OOS attacker" Against Turkey?. Against Russia?. MBH is hitting under .170 (or whatever), Kelsey is under .100.... They need options. "while you ask “when has the pairing of Larson/Robo been good enough at the highest level? I would counter with when has the pairing of SWP and Larson ever happened in a match of significance or ever" Does it matter? We know Larson/Kelsey doesn't work... They need to try something new... Worse case.. its as bad as Kelsey/Larson. "Robinson has shown far more than SWP has shown she can play at the pin in high level matches wearing red, white and Blue." When? Not this olympic games. Not in the Rio games. Not in the world cup. Larson isn't getting benched. What match has Kelsey played at a high level with Larson (in an important match) "I’m nowhere near convinced SWP gives us a better chance to win." Well, you're entitled to your wrong opinion. Why are we wasting a roster spot on a serving specialist when we have a top 5 scorer in a top 2 league chilling in Hawai'i. You dont see any value in having that player here? I am not arguing that SWP should be on the roster over Kelsey. I'm arguing she should be on the roster over a serving specialist. I dont see how anyone can watch the USA's pool play matches and think any OH (minus Larson) was good or near good enough to compete for a gold (at that level). SWP brings offense, she brings something different. USA needs a spark, especially without Thompson on court. SWP is that person when MBH doesn't have it. Kelsey isn't scoring OOS attacks. Larson at this stage, isn't either. What is the back up plan? They don't have one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2021 20:13:19 GMT -5
I thought I read in one of your posts that you said Kelsey wasn’t an OH, if you didn’t, my apologies for crediting that to you. I get all of what you’re saying, with the exception of SWP being the hitting replacement for MBH, SWP is the hitting replacement in your opinion. To this point I’ve never seen in any match of significance where they played SWP ahead of a Kelsey, Bartsch or hill for that matter. I see no scenario where they would have played SWP over Kelsey even if as you say she’s better OOS attacker. Again ,I get all of your points, and while you ask “when has the pairing of Larson/Robo been good enough at the highest level? I would counter with when has the pairing of SWP and Larson ever happened in a match of significance or ever? I see the same problems as other people, but the assumption SWP being the answer or would perform better, that’s an enormous assumption. Could SWP do better? I guess, but again, with a limited roster you can create a roster for every and all scenarios. Robinson has shown far more than SWP has shown she can play at the pin in high level matches wearing red, white and Blue. From what I’ve seen of Bartsch, Robinson and SWP in USA matches I’m nowhere near convinced SWP gives us a better chance to win. This of course is my opinion, and my point is people are presenting SWP would as a fact. I got time. Let's dissect this. "To this point I’ve never seen in any match of significance where they played SWP ahead of a Kelsey, Bartsch or hill for that matter." You don't watch the Turkish League. That's why. Or probably any professional volleyball for that matter. "I see no scenario where they would have played SWP over Kelsey even if as you say she’s better OOS attacker" Against Turkey?. Against Russia?. MBH is hitting under .170 (or whatever), Kelsey is under .100.... They need options. "while you ask “when has the pairing of Larson/Robo been good enough at the highest level? I would counter with when has the pairing of SWP and Larson ever happened in a match of significance or ever" Does it matter? We know Larson/Kelsey doesn't work... They need to try something new... Worse case.. its as bad as Kelsey/Larson. "Robinson has shown far more than SWP has shown she can play at the pin in high level matches wearing red, white and Blue." When? Not this olympic games. Not in the Rio games. Not in the world cup. Larson isn't getting benched. What match has Kelsey played at a high level with Larson (in an important match) "I’m nowhere near convinced SWP gives us a better chance to win." Well, you're entitled to your wrong opinion. Why are we wasting a roster spot on a serving specialist when we have a top 5 scorer in a top 2 league chilling in Hawai'i. You dont see any value in having that player here? I am not arguing that SWP should be on the roster over Kelsey. I'm arguing she should be on the roster over a serving specialist. I dont see how anyone can watch the USA's pool play matches and think any OH (minus Larson) was good or near good enough to compete for a gold (at that level). SWP brings offense, she brings something different. USA needs a spark, especially without Thompson on court. SWP is that person when MBH doesn't have it. Kelsey isn't scoring OOS attacks. Larson at this stage, isn't either. What is the back up plan? They don't have one. GET EM GIRL |
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