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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Sept 3, 2024 16:46:00 GMT -5
If the clubs and coaching within a players region are poor, then why wouldn’t athletes be able to seek other opportunities? If more coaches, especially on the guys side, were actively doing more to improve as coaches and in turn create a better club atmosphere where athletes feel like they have a shot at competing at a very high level, then all this wouldn’t be an issue. Like you guys are literally just saying that these kids should suck it up and play for teams they aren’t happy with. The rule doesn’t confide you to your region. It’s bordering regions…. You can’t tell me that with the exception of some areas in the country (by that I mean the northwest, the dakotas maybe the east coast) that there aren’t great teams and great coaches within those parameters. That would just be a silly statement. |
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 3, 2024 17:22:04 GMT -5
If the clubs and coaching within a players region are poor, then why wouldn’t athletes be able to seek other opportunities? If more coaches, especially on the guys side, were actively doing more to improve as coaches and in turn create a better club atmosphere where athletes feel like they have a shot at competing at a very high level, then all this wouldn’t be an issue. Like you guys are literally just saying that these kids should suck it up and play for teams they aren’t happy with. The rule doesn’t confide you to your region. It’s bordering regions…. You can’t tell me that with the exception of some areas in the country (by that I mean the northwest, the dakotas maybe the east coast) that there aren’t great teams and great coaches within those parameters. That would just be a silly statement. I’m not saying it, the kids are saying it. I’m all for harsh penalties if clubs are found to actively be recruiting players during the season but I don’t understand keeping a handful of kids somewhere they don’t want to be. I think growing of the game would be more prevalent if there was significant investment on the parts of clubs in their boys rather than just having it be a financial supplement to their money making girls programs. Clubs that show they value their boys will get more notoriety, that just is what it is. |
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Post by coy on Sept 3, 2024 18:59:23 GMT -5
The rule doesn’t confide you to your region. It’s bordering regions…. You can’t tell me that with the exception of some areas in the country (by that I mean the northwest, the dakotas maybe the east coast) that there aren’t great teams and great coaches within those parameters. That would just be a silly statement. I’m not saying it, the kids are saying it. I’m all for harsh penalties if clubs are found to actively be recruiting players during the season but I don’t understand keeping a handful of kids somewhere they don’t want to be. I think growing of the game would be more prevalent if there was significant investment on the parts of clubs in their boys rather than just having it be a financial supplement to their money making girls programs. Clubs that show they value their boys will get more notoriety, that just is what it is. I mean, Sting 17s took 3rd in 17 Open last year, and went 3 in the semifinals. I’m not sure claiming Aleksey doesn’t have any competitive options to play for in either Southeastern Wisconsin or Northeastern IL holds much weight. (And their 16s, who he could’ve stayed back and played 17s with if he wanted to, along with 3 other Sting 17s kids from last year, took 5th in 16s Open.) |
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 3, 2024 19:45:08 GMT -5
I’m not saying it, the kids are saying it. I’m all for harsh penalties if clubs are found to actively be recruiting players during the season but I don’t understand keeping a handful of kids somewhere they don’t want to be. I think growing of the game would be more prevalent if there was significant investment on the parts of clubs in their boys rather than just having it be a financial supplement to their money making girls programs. Clubs that show they value their boys will get more notoriety, that just is what it is. I mean, Sting 17s took 3rd in 17 Open last year, and went 3 in the semifinals. I’m not sure claiming Aleksey doesn’t have any competitive options to play for in either Southeastern Wisconsin or Northeastern IL holds much weight. (And their 16s, who he could’ve stayed back and played 17s with if he wanted to, along with 3 other Sting 17s kids from last year, took 5th in 16s Open.) So then obviously this means this particular player wanted something else. It’s still a case by case basis though. I don’t know anything about the player you’re referring to, his personal life, his former team’s culture, etc to say anything one way or the other. All I’m saying is that, as long as there isn’t active recruiting going on, kids should be able to play where they are happiest. This sport already favors the haves over the have nots significantly with ballooning club fees, if parents are willing and able to fork over more money for their kid to play somewhere outside of their immediate and surrounding areas then that’s on them. |
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Post by coy on Sept 3, 2024 22:04:56 GMT -5
I mean, Sting 17s took 3rd in 17 Open last year, and went 3 in the semifinals. I’m not sure claiming Aleksey doesn’t have any competitive options to play for in either Southeastern Wisconsin or Northeastern IL holds much weight. (And their 16s, who he could’ve stayed back and played 17s with if he wanted to, along with 3 other Sting 17s kids from last year, took 5th in 16s Open.) So then obviously this means this particular player wanted something else. It’s still a case by case basis though. I don’t know anything about the player you’re referring to, his personal life, his former team’s culture, etc to say anything one way or the other. All I’m saying is that, as long as there isn’t active recruiting going on, kids should be able to play where they are happiest. This sport already favors the haves over the have nots significantly with ballooning club fees, if parents are willing and able to fork over more money for their kid to play somewhere outside of their immediate and surrounding areas then that’s on them. I’m sure kids from San Diego, Wisconsin, and Phoenix all flew to Northern California to try out at Bay to Bay without Bay to Bay inviting them or indicating to them that they’d like for them to come try out for them. lol. |
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 3, 2024 22:18:09 GMT -5
So then obviously this means this particular player wanted something else. It’s still a case by case basis though. I don’t know anything about the player you’re referring to, his personal life, his former team’s culture, etc to say anything one way or the other. All I’m saying is that, as long as there isn’t active recruiting going on, kids should be able to play where they are happiest. This sport already favors the haves over the have nots significantly with ballooning club fees, if parents are willing and able to fork over more money for their kid to play somewhere outside of their immediate and surrounding areas then that’s on them. I’m sure kids from San Diego, Wisconsin, and Phoenix all flew to Northern California to try out at Bay to Bay without Bay to Bay inviting them or indicating to them that they’d like for them to come try out for them. lol. Idk what part of harsher penalties for recruiting that you don’t seem to understand but hey go ahead and keep saying nothing. This conversation has been settled imo |
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Post by gtrich on Oct 9, 2024 7:48:27 GMT -5
Any update on how things turned out? I was just flipping through Instagram and saw a B2B post from a couple of days ago where she was talking about how they only had 7 players for a 2 day tournament and had to cut 5 kids. Did they not get the residency exception they were expecting, or was it a homecoming thing where all her out of state kids were at homecoming and couldn’t make the tournament, something else? www.instagram.com/reel/DAzXRhwy4AQ/?igsh=MXhiYTRtdTV0NmI4YQ== |
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Oct 9, 2024 8:34:26 GMT -5
Any update on how things turned out? I was just flipping through Instagram and saw a B2B post from a couple of days ago where she was talking about how they only had 7 players for a 2 day tournament and had to cut 5 kids. Did they not get the residency exception they were expecting, or was it a homecoming thing where all her out of state kids were at homecoming and couldn’t make the tournament, something else? www.instagram.com/reel/DAzXRhwy4AQ/?igsh=MXhiYTRtdTV0NmI4YQ==She is milking the drama of it all.. From what I know Roman is back at Coast and Aleksey made the decision to stay in MKE with MVC. The only new addition is the libero from Fear which is legal within the boundaries of it all. I am sure she had a roster of 12 -14 with the new additions and when this all panned out she is back within the 10-12 range. Either that or she is was showing that she had 5 guys were not eligible to compete within the AAU's new rules. |
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Post by collin3847 on Oct 9, 2024 10:01:07 GMT -5
I don't know about other clubs, but C2 had their appeals denied and is going to USAV
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Post by mwvball on Oct 9, 2024 10:06:53 GMT -5
Any update on how things turned out? I was just flipping through Instagram and saw a B2B post from a couple of days ago where she was talking about how they only had 7 players for a 2 day tournament and had to cut 5 kids. Did they not get the residency exception they were expecting, or was it a homecoming thing where all her out of state kids were at homecoming and couldn’t make the tournament, something else? www.instagram.com/reel/DAzXRhwy4AQ/?igsh=MXhiYTRtdTV0NmI4YQ==She is milking the drama of it all.. From what I know Roman is back at Coast and Aleksey made the decision to stay in MKE with MVC. The only new addition is the libero from Fear which is legal within the boundaries of it all. I am sure she had a roster of 12 -14 with the new additions and when this all panned out she is back within the 10-12 range. Either that or she is was showing that she had 5 guys were not eligible to compete within the AAU's new rules. Haha I hope the people who work at MVC are sales people for their day jobs. The club has no top 20 finishers in Open last year while Sting's 17s team takes 3rd and 16s team takes 5th, and the 17s group moves over to MVC? For what? Also, Aleksey and 2 other kids from that Sting 17 group could've stayed back at 17s again, joining the team that took 5th in 16s. Guess kids can make whatever decision they think is best for them. Good luck to them. |
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Post by thebaytocsulb on Oct 9, 2024 10:39:40 GMT -5
My buddies team had a few guys taking the SAT this weekend and they were shorthanded on Saturday but full on Sunday. Possibly the same for them.
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Post by wilbur on Oct 10, 2024 15:36:14 GMT -5
I don't know about other clubs, but C2 had their appeals denied and is going to USAV probably can thank B2B for that, wasn't C2 allowed to play last year with the out of region players? FWIW I thought they had a more legit claim to build a team from multiple regions. I expect USAV to be even worse this year. Is it better for a kid that doesn't have a strong local club to just play on a weak club team that he can practice with several times a week, or to play for C2, travel to reduced practices, and then play in a weak field at nationals where they will crush 90% of the teams they play? Are there mid season tournaments that are competitive with college coaches watching that they can play in? |
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Post by gtrich on Oct 10, 2024 16:08:29 GMT -5
I don't know about other clubs, but C2 had their appeals denied and is going to USAV probably can thank B2B for that, wasn't C2 allowed to play last year with the out of region players? FWIW I thought they had a more legit claim to build a team from multiple regions. I expect USAV to be even worse this year. Is it better for a kid that doesn't have a strong local club to just play on a weak club team that he can practice with several times a week, or to play for C2, travel to reduced practices, and then play in a weak field at nationals where they will crush 90% of the teams they play? Are there mid season tournaments that are competitive with college coaches watching that they can play in? From what we saw over the past couple of years with HVA, AAU only cared about residency requirements at AAU Nationals. None of the other AAU/JVA tournaments cared about it, and it may have been up to the local tournament organizer (or maybe the big tournaments are JVA and not AAU so that's why it doesn't matter). My guess is that C2 will do their normal run and go to the big Chicago tournament in November (unless that one moved someplace else), SoCal Cup in January, Dennis Lafata in Feb, SoCal Showcase in June, plus various cup series events in their area. So they'll be in front of a bunch of coaches. |
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Post by gemstones on Oct 10, 2024 16:21:58 GMT -5
According to the C2 schedule they are not going to Indy in November (which replaces Chicago) or the January SoCal. Also aren't registered for JVA's Chicago December Tourney or Milwaukee in January.
These are all changes from their calendar they shared before try-outs.
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Post by wilbur on Oct 10, 2024 18:12:17 GMT -5
According to the C2 schedule they are not going to Indy in November (which replaces Chicago) or the January SoCal. Also aren't registered for JVA's Chicago December Tourney or Milwaukee in January. These are all changes from their calendar they shared before try-outs. the socal teams are staying home/vegas this winter, no Chicago or Milwaukee. There is a 3 day Pacific Classic that seems to be connected to AIM sports group (who provides the venues for the Socal Cup organization) in November at the Long Beach convention center which is a new venue for boys, December a SoCal cup 3 day event in Vegas and January, another 3 day at the Los Angeles Convention Center like last year. Is C2 or other clubs coming to any of these? I assume there will be many out of state clubs and wonder how much air the Vegas event will take out of Chicago. |
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