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Post by gemstones on Oct 10, 2024 18:28:45 GMT -5
C2 has a schedule up and they are not doing any SoCals (including Vegas) or their typical JVA events. USAV Nationals is on their schedule.
Some California teams are going to Indy in November, at least b2b is.
Other midwest clubs will be well represented at the January SoCal, as in years past. And December Chicago and Milwaukee's registrations are pretty full for some age groups already...mostly midwest as expected...because those are both 2 day tourneys.
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Oct 10, 2024 21:14:35 GMT -5
According to the C2 schedule they are not going to Indy in November (which replaces Chicago) or the January SoCal. Also aren't registered for JVA's Chicago December Tourney or Milwaukee in January. These are all changes from their calendar they shared before try-outs. the socal teams are staying home/vegas this winter, no Chicago or Milwaukee. There is a 3 day Pacific Classic that seems to be connected to AIM sports group (who provides the venues for the Socal Cup organization) in November at the Long Beach convention center which is a new venue for boys, December a SoCal cup 3 day event in Vegas and January, another 3 day at the Los Angeles Convention Center like last year. Is C2 or other clubs coming to any of these? I assume there will be many out of state clubs and wonder how much air the Vegas event will take out of Chicago. The Pacific event is being promoted as the “triple crown of boys”, and was initially an invite only event that they tried to go after the top Midwest teams and Florida teams to pull from Indy. As much as I believe boys volleyball needs and would thrive from a triple crown style event, the thought that the best teams in the country will fly to SoCal three-four times a year is brutal. And unfortunately some clubs are doing that. If an event like that is to take off they need to be open to not having every event in SoCal. Let the Calis have their big events, the Midwest do the same, and a non affiliated triple crown style event somewhere that’s pretty central for everyone to get to. Then clubs can make a decision on if they want to continue going to California still. This year feels like more and more a separation in boys is bound to happen and I hope as club directors we can continue to work together and create schedules that are considerate for everyone. We did a good job at that the last few seasons. But the more events that pop up in the West those west coast teams are going to ask “why leave” and the same with the Midwest clubs with Midwest events. |
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Post by coy on Oct 11, 2024 11:13:00 GMT -5
Yeah. Bay 2 Bay trying to do a nationwide super team, after having just won nationals with their own group of players, might split up boys volleyball. And the sport isn't big enough to do that.
Hilarious Bay 2 Bay tried selling the idea as "growing the game." You were taking kids out of less talent rich areas and trying to pull them away to you, and now the sport is worse off for it. It was always about the club itself and what it did for their club, which is crazy because again, THEY WON NATIONALS WITHOUT THEIR "SUPERTEAM." Instead of telling kids that helped you win a national title that they're no longer wanted, maybe continue competing instead of trying to weaken the teams that pushed you.
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Oct 11, 2024 12:44:06 GMT -5
Yeah. Bay 2 Bay trying to do a nationwide super team, after having just won nationals with their own group of players, might split up boys volleyball. And the sport isn't big enough to do that. Hilarious Bay 2 Bay tried selling the idea as "growing the game." You were taking kids out of less talent rich areas and trying to pull them away to you, and now the sport is worse off for it. It was always about the club itself and what it did for their club, which is crazy because again, THEY WON NATIONALS WITHOUT THEIR "SUPERTEAM." Instead of telling kids that helped you win a national title that they're no longer wanted, maybe continue competing instead of trying to weaken the teams that pushed you. It’s worth to note that Rafa came to the club last season and technically would be not allowed based on the district rules and they added a middle in the summer from Texas. So it’s hard to say what this team would have done without those two kids. |
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Post by wilbur on Oct 11, 2024 14:00:21 GMT -5
Yeah. Bay 2 Bay trying to do a nationwide super team, after having just won nationals with their own group of players, might split up boys volleyball. And the sport isn't big enough to do that. Hilarious Bay 2 Bay tried selling the idea as "growing the game." You were taking kids out of less talent rich areas and trying to pull them away to you, and now the sport is worse off for it. It was always about the club itself and what it did for their club, which is crazy because again, THEY WON NATIONALS WITHOUT THEIR "SUPERTEAM." Instead of telling kids that helped you win a national title that they're no longer wanted, maybe continue competing instead of trying to weaken the teams that pushed you. It’s worth to note that Rafa came to the club last season and technically would be not allowed based on the district rules and they added a middle in the summer from Texas. So it’s hard to say what this team would have done without those two kids. or maybe not that hard to predict. Rafa made that team and that team made Rafa. Both were good before, although the team was a work in progress since 15s with a lot of results below expectations. Rafa was good when he was with Lobos but got really good at B2B and is the engine of that team IMO. The second setter was really good at nationals when they used him but the team was humming at that point and I don't think he could have done what Rafa did for that team. I am not hating B2B for bringing in Rafa, it was a good move for everyone. The move they tried for last summer was more aggressive and turned out to be an over reach. |
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Post by gofaster88 on Oct 11, 2024 22:41:09 GMT -5
It’s worth to note that Rafa came to the club last season and technically would be not allowed based on the district rules and they added a middle in the summer from Texas. So it’s hard to say what this team would have done without those two kids. or maybe not that hard to predict. Rafa made that team and that team made Rafa. Both were good before, although the team was a work in progress since 15s with a lot of results below expectations. Rafa was good when he was with Lobos but got really good at B2B and is the engine of that team IMO. The second setter was really good at nationals when they used him but the team was humming at that point and I don't think he could have done what Rafa did for that team. I am not hating B2B for bringing in Rafa, it was a good move for everyone. The move they tried for last summer was more aggressive and turned out to be an over reach. Agree, kind of a which came first the chicken or the egg thing. Rafa went from Lobos to B2B. The hitters he has at B2B are WAY better than anything he had at Lobos. So of course he's going to get better. Also, Rafa is way better than the setters B2B had on their 16U team. Don't forget the backup kid Peter was also the backup at 16U. They had the other shorter kid starting most of the time at 16U. |
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Post by gemstones on Nov 13, 2024 16:19:17 GMT -5
And Rafa back to Lobos?
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Nov 13, 2024 16:35:15 GMT -5
Literally just saw this. Heard he is playing with Lobos until after Indy. As long as he is not on an AAU roster with Lobos he is fine. Lobos could technically release him if they are in AAU. Only reason he is allowed to be back at Bay 2 Bay is because he is grandfathered. But pretty shady stuff from B2B still. |
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Post by gofaster88 on Nov 13, 2024 22:20:07 GMT -5
Literally just saw this. Heard he is playing with Lobos until after Indy. As long as he is not on an AAU roster with Lobos he is fine. Lobos could technically release him if they are in AAU. Only reason he is allowed to be back at Bay 2 Bay is because he is grandfathered. But pretty shady stuff from B2B still. It makes sense he can play with them locally till their region tournaments are over or if their region games are USAV sanctioned. Then do the big tournament circuit (Indy, Vegas, Los Angeles) followed by High School ball, then back to LA and Orlando. Is most of the B2B team signed already? |
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Post by GrowingTheGame14 on Nov 14, 2024 7:09:01 GMT -5
Literally just saw this. Heard he is playing with Lobos until after Indy. As long as he is not on an AAU roster with Lobos he is fine. Lobos could technically release him if they are in AAU. Only reason he is allowed to be back at Bay 2 Bay is because he is grandfathered. But pretty shady stuff from B2B still. It makes sense he can play with them locally till their region tournaments are over or if their region games are USAV sanctioned. Then do the big tournament circuit (Indy, Vegas, Los Angeles) followed by High School ball, then back to LA and Orlando. Is most of the B2B team signed already? Sure but this is exactly the reason why the AAU came up with the rule that it did. To prevent teams from becoming these super teams. If Rafa wants to be part of B2B, he needs to be there and not train or play with other teams. Just my stance with this. I think it’s ridiculous that he is playing with one club then doing all the big events with another. Especially after there was massive criticism from the B2B crew on local coaches doing better so kids didn’t leave their organization. It just shows it’s really not about development. |
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