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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 26, 2022 8:56:44 GMT -5
I would imagine the volunteer spot at Florida pays better than 2nd assistant at CofC.
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Post by mervynpumpkinhead on Jul 26, 2022 9:28:04 GMT -5
Opening at College of Charleston. It’s not every day you see an assistant go to a volunteer. Yeah, but it is at a perennial powerhouse, i.e. great stepping stone to bigger and better jobs. CK doesn't need stepping stones, does she? I think she just wants to work for / with Mary Wise before she retires. |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 26, 2022 9:50:58 GMT -5
I would imagine the volunteer spot at Florida pays better than 2nd assistant at CofC. I mean, she could make decent money coaching club ball and having camps around there, but unless CofC was making her pay to coach, then they were paying her more than Florida will. Volunteer does mean volunteer |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 26, 2022 9:54:03 GMT -5
Volunteer does mean volunteer lol it very much does not. |
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Post by underthenet on Jul 26, 2022 10:08:45 GMT -5
I would imagine the volunteer spot at Florida pays better than 2nd assistant at CofC. I mean, she could make decent money coaching club ball and having camps around there, but unless CofC was making her pay to coach, then they were paying her more than Florida will. Volunteer does mean volunteer Volunteer (at a program like UF) means you get paid handsomely in one or two lump sums rather than smaller checks every two weeks. It most certainly does not mean free labor. |
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 26, 2022 10:12:08 GMT -5
I mean, she could make decent money coaching club ball and having camps around there, but unless CofC was making her pay to coach, then they were paying her more than Florida will. Volunteer does mean volunteer Volunteer (at a program like UF) means you get paid handsomely in one or two lump sums rather than smaller checks every two weeks. It most certainly does not mean free labor. Sometimes but not always. I know a couple Power 5 programs that pay their volunteers a regular camp check, same as the players and other staff. Or at least that is what they told people during interviews. |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 26, 2022 10:15:01 GMT -5
I mean, she could make decent money coaching club ball and having camps around there, but unless CofC was making her pay to coach, then they were paying her more than Florida will. Volunteer does mean volunteer Volunteer (at a program like UF) means you get paid handsomely in one or two lump sums rather than smaller checks every two weeks. It most certainly does not mean free labor. it’s a stipend (of course you have to live), but it probably won’t be as much as she was getting paid. it’s not a salary based job with any sort of benefits like a full time spot is. then again, I’ve never even looked at applying/working in an actual coaching position. I just know the people I’ve worked with and their experiences (Arizona and the other schools I know are CERTAINLY not Florida’s caliber when I comes to volleyball) |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 26, 2022 10:18:19 GMT -5
I was a DI head coach and an assistant at a top 150 and top 75 program. I made almost as much money as a P5 volunteer as I did as a head coach.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 26, 2022 10:19:05 GMT -5
Volunteer (at a program like UF) means you get paid handsomely in one or two lump sums rather than smaller checks every two weeks. It most certainly does not mean free labor. Sometimes but not always. I know a couple Power 5 programs that pay their volunteers a regular camp check, same as the players and other staff. Or at least that is what they told people during interviews. Those programs need to get their camp businesses figured out. |
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Post by justahick on Jul 26, 2022 11:13:29 GMT -5
Sometimes but not always. I know a couple Power 5 programs that pay their volunteers a regular camp check, same as the players and other staff. Or at least that is what they told people during interviews. Those programs need to get their camp businesses figured out. Or they aren't interested in getting quality volunteers and choose to spend that money elsewhere. |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 26, 2022 11:35:00 GMT -5
I was a DI head coach and an assistant at a top 150 and top 75 program. I made almost as much money as a P5 volunteer as I did as a head coach. wow, learn something new everyday. I didn’t realize the stipends were that big. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 26, 2022 11:44:08 GMT -5
I was a DI head coach and an assistant at a top 150 and top 75 program. I made almost as much money as a P5 volunteer as I did as a head coach. wow, learn something new everyday. I didn’t realize the stipends were that big. You might be confusing GA stipends (which are perfectly legal payments to grad assistants) with under the table payouts to volunteers, which are of dubious legality. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Jul 26, 2022 11:46:19 GMT -5
This is also why the NCAA should prohibit volunteer assistants from receiving camp payouts of any kind. It's a system that's very easy to abuse. Or add a third paid position and eliminate volunteers entirely.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 26, 2022 12:17:20 GMT -5
This is also why the NCAA should prohibit volunteer assistants from receiving camp payouts of any kind. It's a system that's very easy to abuse. Or add a third paid position and eliminate volunteers entirely. Many schools don't even have a paid second assistant. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2022 12:26:30 GMT -5
This is also why the NCAA should prohibit volunteer assistants from receiving camp payouts of any kind. It's a system that's very easy to abuse. Or add a third paid position and eliminate volunteers entirely. Preach, Brother Mervyn. It's especially bad because you get told--hey, you need to be a volunteer coach if you want to get a paid D1 position. It's like unpaid internships in a bunch of other fields that are "required". It's a form of slave labor to demand work without compensation. |
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