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Post by jwvolley on Oct 24, 2021 14:29:15 GMT -5
And I'll gladly eat crow. But my gap comment wasn't based on a single game, like OSU playing Wisconsin close. It's based on the season, and quality wins. If Nebraska beats Wisky, I think looking at the season, they belong in the top group. Pitt's lost twice in the past two weeks. They lost a set 25-9 against a third team. Texas still hasn't lost yet and has performed better against their two common opponents (6-1 in sets v. 6-4 for Pitt). Pitt hasn't swept anyone better than South Carolina, who's 4-6 in the SEC. BYU and Baylor are better than anybody Texas has faced this season, as are Pitt's two losses (GT and Louisville, both close matches) |
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Post by donut on Oct 24, 2021 14:29:30 GMT -5
And I'll gladly eat crow. But my gap comment wasn't based on a single game, like OSU playing Wisconsin close. It's based on the season, and quality wins. If Nebraska beats Wisky, I think looking at the season, they belong in the top group. Pitt's lost twice in the past two weeks. They lost a set 25-9 against a third team. Texas still hasn't lost yet and has performed better against their two common opponents (6-1 in sets v. 6-4 for Pitt). Pitt hasn't swept anyone better than South Carolina, who's 4-6 in the SEC. You could do this exact same nit-picking with Texas. Has Pitt needed 5 sets to beat anyone as bad as Kansas? Pitt has 2 wins that are better than any of Texas's wins. And Pitt just took the #1 team to 5 sets (at Louisville), in a very close match. If Texas beats Baylor, I'll switch them. |
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Post by donut on Oct 24, 2021 14:31:49 GMT -5
Pitt's lost twice in the past two weeks. They lost a set 25-9 against a third team. Texas still hasn't lost yet and has performed better against their two common opponents (6-1 in sets v. 6-4 for Pitt). Pitt hasn't swept anyone better than South Carolina, who's 4-6 in the SEC. BYU and Baylor are better than anybody Texas has faced this season, Jinx. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 24, 2021 14:32:26 GMT -5
Pitt's lost twice in the past two weeks. They lost a set 25-9 against a third team. Texas still hasn't lost yet and has performed better against their two common opponents (6-1 in sets v. 6-4 for Pitt). Pitt hasn't swept anyone better than South Carolina, who's 4-6 in the SEC. You could do this exact same nit-picking with Texas. Has Pitt needed 5 sets to beat anyone as bad as Kansas? Pitt has 2 wins that are better than any of Texas's wins. And Pitt just took the #1 team to 5 sets (at Louisville), in a very close match. If Texas beats Baylor, I'll switch them. Not at all. Texas has only played a 5th set once, and Kansas is better than several teams Pitt has gone 5 with (Notre Dame, probably Rice). You're clearly just looking for reasons to denigrate an undefeated Texas. |
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 24, 2021 14:32:33 GMT -5
At this point, I think I'd go:
1. Louisville
2. Texas
3. Wisconsin
4. Pittsburgh
Not sure beyond that. I loved how BYU looked against San Diego, though.
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 24, 2021 14:33:29 GMT -5
Pitt's lost twice in the past two weeks. They lost a set 25-9 against a third team. Texas still hasn't lost yet and has performed better against their two common opponents (6-1 in sets v. 6-4 for Pitt). Pitt hasn't swept anyone better than South Carolina, who's 4-6 in the SEC. BYU and Baylor are better than anybody Texas has faced this season, as are Pitt's two losses (GT and Louisville, both close matches) Eh, they're still losses. I can't overlook them. Maybe if it was just the one loss at Louisville. But Pitt also lost at home to Georgia Tech. |
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Post by Wiswell on Oct 24, 2021 14:33:46 GMT -5
Poop.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 24, 2021 14:36:56 GMT -5
I like Pitt's wins better. I like Texas losses better |
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Post by jwvolley on Oct 24, 2021 14:38:08 GMT -5
BYU and Baylor are better than anybody Texas has faced this season, as are Pitt's two losses (GT and Louisville, both close matches) Eh, they're still losses. I can't overlook them. Maybe if it was just the one loss at Louisville. But Pitt also lost at home to Georgia Tech. Totally respect that. Personally, I would put Texas ahead as well. But there's an argument to be made that it's easier for Texas to not lose to teams they don't play and given that Pitt has two better wins, I think it's a subjective choice. |
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Post by donut on Oct 24, 2021 14:38:30 GMT -5
You could do this exact same nit-picking with Texas. Has Pitt needed 5 sets to beat anyone as bad as Kansas? Pitt has 2 wins that are better than any of Texas's wins. And Pitt just took the #1 team to 5 sets (at Louisville), in a very close match. If Texas beats Baylor, I'll switch them. Not at all. Texas has only played a 5th set once, and Kansas is better than several teams Pitt has gone 5 with (Notre Dame, probably Rice). You're clearly just looking for reasons to denigrate an undefeated Texas. Yes, and you famously have tons of respect for Pitt on this board. Not sure why you had to make it personal. Not "looking for reasons." You don't have to look for better wins. You do have to look for set records against common opponents, or the parsing you did in your original post. Pitt has had more opportunities to lose to top teams than Texas has... substantially. I'm just not willing to penalize them too heavily yet, given their wins, for those 5-set losses to Louisville and GT. |
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Post by ted_heise on Oct 24, 2021 14:38:33 GMT -5
I like Pitt's wins better. I like Texas losses better I like Texas losses. |
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Post by donut on Oct 24, 2021 14:42:08 GMT -5
Since this is for a separate thread, I'll leave it at this.
There are sound reasons to put Texas above Pitt! There are also sound reasons to put Pitt above Texas. I'm choosing the latter, right now.
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Post by bbg95 on Oct 24, 2021 14:43:16 GMT -5
Eh, they're still losses. I can't overlook them. Maybe if it was just the one loss at Louisville. But Pitt also lost at home to Georgia Tech. Totally respect that. Personally, I would put Texas ahead as well. But there's an argument to be made that it's easier for Texas to not lose to teams they don't play and given that Pitt has two better wins, I think it's a subjective choice. Yeah, I definitely see the pro-Pitt side of the argument. It's just a matter of my personal weighting of criteria. |
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Post by vballfan17 on Oct 24, 2021 14:46:32 GMT -5
Since this is for a separate thread, I'll leave it at this. There are sound reasons to put Texas above Pitt! There are also sound reasons to put Pitt above Texas. I'm choosing the latter, right now. You going to submit your ballot this week? Lol |
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Post by donut on Oct 24, 2021 14:47:41 GMT -5
Since this is for a separate thread, I'll leave it at this. There are sound reasons to put Texas above Pitt! There are also sound reasons to put Pitt above Texas. I'm choosing the latter, right now. You going to submit your ballot this week? Lol I sent mine last week via smoke signal. You didn't get it? |
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