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Post by redcard🏐 on Sept 1, 2023 15:47:53 GMT -5
If they wanted them they would have got them! Yes, I know. My question is if anyone knows why. Its hard to know for sure I suppose but some reports said the B1G didn’t see the Palo Alto market as financially viable especially since they locked up So Cal and Washington and Oregon. Others claimed it wouldn’t be worth diluted shares to the others, which I find hard to believe that a lower share to existing would’ve ever been considered to begin with.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Sept 1, 2023 16:07:32 GMT -5
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Post by hipsterfilth on Sept 1, 2023 16:13:33 GMT -5
I love the sass, hate the reality of this lol
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 1, 2023 16:14:25 GMT -5
I'm about 15 pages behind in this thread, so forgive me if this has already been explained, but why didn't the Big Ten get Stanford? Yeah, the next time a Big Ten fan bellyaches about academics with regards to conference expansion, remind them that they could have had Stanford and Cal for free. Academics plays zero part anymore.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 1, 2023 16:19:40 GMT -5
Yeah, the next time a Big Ten fan bellyaches about academics with regards to conference expansion, remind them that they could have had Stanford and Cal for free. Academics plays zero part anymore. I would say minimal, but I wouldn't say zero. The reason the Notre Dame president was willing to go to bat as much as he did for Stanford and Cal to be admitted to the ACC is absolutely directly related to academics.
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Post by jagdpanther on Sept 1, 2023 20:03:12 GMT -5
Yeah, the next time a Big Ten fan bellyaches about academics with regards to conference expansion, remind them that they could have had Stanford and Cal for free. Academics plays zero part anymore. I don't know that it ever did.
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Post by jagdpanther on Sept 1, 2023 20:03:45 GMT -5
Academics plays zero part anymore. I would say minimal, but I wouldn't say zero. The reason the Notre Dame president was willing to go to bat as much as he did for Stanford and Cal to be admitted to the ACC is absolutely directly related to academics. No it does not. It's about about preserving their scheduling.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 1, 2023 20:09:23 GMT -5
I would say minimal, but I wouldn't say zero. The reason the Notre Dame president was willing to go to bat as much as he did for Stanford and Cal to be admitted to the ACC is absolutely directly related to academics. No it does not. It's about about preserving their scheduling. I don't believe that. That could have preserved their scheduling just fine with Stanford wandering in the wilderness.
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Post by Not Me on Sept 1, 2023 21:09:28 GMT -5
Yeah, the next time a Big Ten fan bellyaches about academics with regards to conference expansion, remind them that they could have had Stanford and Cal for free. Academics plays zero part anymore. It does to college presidents. It doesn’t to the TV executives. Guess who is driving this?
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 1, 2023 21:57:05 GMT -5
Academics plays zero part anymore. I would say minimal, but I wouldn't say zero. The reason the Notre Dame president was willing to go to bat as much as he did for Stanford and Cal to be admitted to the ACC is absolutely directly related to academics. I agree. I think academics are highly overrated as a consideration for realignment (geography was also overrated, but I think everyone realizes that now), but they still matter at the margins. I don't believe Stanford and Cal would turn down an SEC invite over academics. But they weren't getting one anyway.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Sept 1, 2023 22:18:33 GMT -5
It's been confirmed that the vote was 12-3; NC State was the institution that switched from the 11-4 straw vote.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 2, 2023 9:31:55 GMT -5
For Stanford and Cal, it will be 30 percent of a whole ACC share for the next seven years. That number will jump to 70 percent in year eight, 75 percent in year nine and then they'll both receive full financial shares in the tenth year, per reports. SMU must have money to burn and Cal’s athletic department budget woes are likely to get worse. SMU does not care about the money because they have rich boosters. There was a quote from one a month or so ago that said something about the AAC buyout along the lines of, "Just send us the bill. Hasta la vista." SMU got relegated when the SWC died, so they just want to be in a power conference. Stanford also has a lot of money and can survive the lower revenue. If they want to remain truly competitive in sports like women's volleyball and women's soccer, they really had to find their way into a power conference. As for Cal, it's not great, but the alternatives were worse. They also do have the "Calimony" that UCLA will have to pay them. I believe that was up to $10 million per year, and I suspect the UC regents will make them pay the full amount. Lol, nice to have rich boosters:
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 2, 2023 15:02:29 GMT -5
Fresno State football beats Purdue at Purdue, gets paid $1.35 million
the Fresno market dwarfs that of Lafeyette
just the absurdity of re-alignment. yes Purdue is academically much more elite, but then it's not about academics. and I love Purdue, just the winners and losers of re-alignment make very little sense. Purdue is worth $50 mil a year? lol, ahh for being in the right conference at the right time.
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Post by redcard🏐 on Sept 2, 2023 15:26:04 GMT -5
Fresno State football beats Purdue at Purdue, gets paid $1.35 million the Fresno market dwarfs that of Lafeyette just the absurdity of re-alignment. yes Purdue is academically much more elite, but then it's not about academics. and I love Purdue, just the winners and losers of re-alignment make very little sense. Purdue is worth $50 mil a year? lol, ahh for being in the right conference at the right time. Purdue was a founding member of the Big Ten back in 1896….lol, right conference at right time….try again.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Sept 2, 2023 15:40:09 GMT -5
Fresno State football beats Purdue at Purdue, gets paid $1.35 million the Fresno market dwarfs that of Lafeyette just the absurdity of re-alignment. yes Purdue is academically much more elite, but then it's not about academics. and I love Purdue, just the winners and losers of re-alignment make very little sense. Purdue is worth $50 mil a year? lol, ahh for being in the right conference at the right time. Purdue was a founding member of the Big Ten back in 1896….lol, right conference at right time….try again. being a founding member has nothing to do with it. they've simply inherited a windfall fortunate? yes deserving? lol, as Gene Hackman said, deserve's got nothing to do with it if the media were to pick schools for these mega conferences with no regard to 'legacy', Purdue would be on shaky ground. I'm not disrespecting Purdue, I like Purdue, just they are in the right conference at the right time. as is Rutgers, Illinois, Northwestern, Iowa Indiana has 3 schools in P5, Calif has 4, almost ended up with 2, that's all one needs to know about how haphazard this has evolved. like Wake Forest continues to be a 'power conf' school, lol, just because they are in a P5 conference, but nobody would say they bring the $$ to the table that North Carolina or Miami do
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