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Post by permagrin on Dec 9, 2021 23:18:56 GMT -5
It’s so amusing to go back and read a match thread after a match the Gophers win. I just don’t get the Gopher fans that are unable to see anything good about their team, but don’t hesitate to criticize if everything isn’t perfect. Having been born and raised in MN in the Twin Cities suburbs, this is consistent with how I know MN sports fans. Many times during family gatherings, I've commented on how <insert MN pro team here> is doing well, and the first comment is that the run won't last. It's a remarkable pessimism. I know it drives me crazy we can never be happy and enjoy the fun experience, i once had a Minnesota fan tell me that if they dont win the national title he is disappointed and considers the year a failure! How do you derive any enjoyment with that outlook? |
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Post by passmetherock on Dec 9, 2021 23:33:07 GMT -5
you’re wrong, if you watch MN consistently that is something steph struggles with consistently, getting under the ball and not being able to adjust. Hugh was exactly right to say that and it’s something she needs to work on for her pro career. That’s also why she often has more success from the back row Yeah I agree. No one is perfect. I wouldn’t say that Samedy has the most beautiful of approaches and swings, especially OOS. But she’s trained hard and bleeds athleticism. Umm..adjusting to any set mid air is literally Samedy’s bread and butter. Not sure if I’m buying the whole connection thing, but something was definitely up. She got some good balls that she just didn’t put any heat on? |
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Post by mnbadger on Dec 10, 2021 0:10:55 GMT -5
Well, look at our professional sports teams. I think the 1998 vikings seriously traumatized the metro area and it's never been fully processed. |
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Post by Mocha on Dec 10, 2021 0:37:50 GMT -5
Only true upset today.
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Post by vbcoltrane on Dec 10, 2021 1:40:54 GMT -5
So jealous. I used to sit in the student section for free and I had NO idea how good I had it I didn't think Volleytalk could get any gayer, and then someone walks in with a Q-Force avatar  VT is uber gay (not ALL gay, but really gay nevertheless). I ran across a VTer on Datalounge for God's sake. |
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Post by vbcoltrane on Dec 10, 2021 1:44:24 GMT -5
Just love this win. Been a long time since MN took out a higher seeded opponent. I would have been happy with a Sweet Sixteen and a competitive match. The win makes it all the better. I'm not one to EVER say a team "has nothing to lose" -- it's a stupid cliche. They have the match and one round better result to lose. But the Wisc match does seem like icing to me.
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Post by vbcoltrane on Dec 10, 2021 1:50:33 GMT -5
It’s so amusing to go back and read a match thread after a match the Gophers win. I just don’t get the Gopher fans that are unable to see anything good about their team, but don’t hesitate to criticize if everything isn’t perfect. Having been born and raised in MN in the Twin Cities suburbs, this is consistent with how I know MN sports fans. Many times during family gatherings, I've commented on how <insert MN pro team here> is doing well, and the first comment is that the run won't last. It's a remarkable pessimism. It's tied tightly to "Minnesota Nice." Don't ever appear THAT positive or believe in something you want in order to avoid the disappointment if it doesn't happen -- not even the actual personal disappointment, but public disappointment. Goes along with upper Midwest passive-aggressiveness. Compare to arrogantly confident fans of teams who appear to be delusional but simply don't care and will double down on "we're the best" and "we're gonna win" no matter. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 10:05:09 GMT -5
Having been born and raised in MN in the Twin Cities suburbs, this is consistent with how I know MN sports fans. Many times during family gatherings, I've commented on how <insert MN pro team here> is doing well, and the first comment is that the run won't last. It's a remarkable pessimism. I know it drives me crazy we can never be happy and enjoy the fun experience, i once had a Minnesota fan tell me that if they dont win the national title he is disappointed and considers the year a failure! How do you derive any enjoyment with that outlook? I signed off the forum around page 35 when the naysayers were going crazy and the anti CC crowd was in full force, and just watched the match  |
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 10, 2021 10:07:36 GMT -5
Yeah I agree. No one is perfect. I wouldn’t say that Samedy has the most beautiful of approaches and swings, especially OOS. But she’s trained hard and bleeds athleticism. Umm..adjusting to any set mid air is literally Samedy’s bread and butter. Not sure if I’m buying the whole connection thing, but something was definitely up. She got some good balls that she just didn’t put any heat on? Lol, no it isn’t. She can usually still do good things with a tough set, but it won’t typically be a full power swing (and if it is, the block is often there) |
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Post by Draco_MN on Dec 10, 2021 10:09:16 GMT -5
Having been born and raised in MN in the Twin Cities suburbs, this is consistent with how I know MN sports fans. Many times during family gatherings, I've commented on how <insert MN pro team here> is doing well, and the first comment is that the run won't last. It's a remarkable pessimism. It's tied tightly to "Minnesota Nice." Don't ever appear THAT positive or believe in something you want in order to avoid the disappointment if it doesn't happen -- not even the actual personal disappointment, but public disappointment. Goes along with upper Midwest passive-aggressiveness. Compare to arrogantly confident fans of teams who appear to be delusional but simply don't care and will double down on "we're the best" and "we're gonna win" no matter. this is a very accurate assessment. It’s cultural. Self deprecation is a huge part of being a Minnesotan for the reasons listed above |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 10:10:15 GMT -5
Having been born and raised in MN in the Twin Cities suburbs, this is consistent with how I know MN sports fans. Many times during family gatherings, I've commented on how <insert MN pro team here> is doing well, and the first comment is that the run won't last. It's a remarkable pessimism. I know it drives me crazy we can never be happy and enjoy the fun experience, i once had a Minnesota fan tell me that if they dont win the national title he is disappointed and considers the year a failure! How do you derive any enjoyment with that outlook? And eventually, once Minnesota teams start to have any success the fans (and the media) start to discuss the coach and top players leaving for somewhere else. It must be some bizarre Scandinavian culture remnant. |
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Post by gogophers on Dec 10, 2021 10:15:41 GMT -5
Having been born and raised in MN in the Twin Cities suburbs, this is consistent with how I know MN sports fans. Many times during family gatherings, I've commented on how <insert MN pro team here> is doing well, and the first comment is that the run won't last. It's a remarkable pessimism. I know it drives me crazy we can never be happy and enjoy the fun experience, i once had a Minnesota fan tell me that if they dont win the national title he is disappointed and considers the year a failure! How do you derive any enjoyment with that outlook? If this comment were representative, wouldn't it make the opposite point? that Minn fans expect great success when the board thinks they are always running down their own team. And if you found the Minnesota fan who thinks a(nother) season without a NC is a failure, you've found a unicorn--unless you are talking about 2018, when many of the fans believed that--finally--a national championship was a realistic possibility (never mind how it turned out). But usually? C'mon no one or hardly anyone in Minn thinks a year without a NC is a failure. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 10:23:29 GMT -5
Go ahead and try to find a market that contains NFL, NBA, NHL, MLB, P5 football, and/or high-major basketball, that has had as long of a drought in championship appearances as Minneapolis.
1991 with the Twins. No team has even appeared in a championship, since then. That is allowed to include Big Ten championship for the Gophers football and basketball.
Minneapolis is far outside even standard deviations of what should've happened by now.
The pessimism and disgust of Minnesota fans toward their teams, is 100% earned and deserved.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2021 10:25:37 GMT -5
That said, those are the major sports.
Volleyball, obviously, does not count. Not even sure if MLS counts, yet.
At least vball appeared in the natty in 2004.
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Post by gogophers on Dec 10, 2021 10:27:56 GMT -5
Yesterday was only the second time I had seen a match at the Field House, and the first time was so long ago and back when the Badgers were wandering in the desert that it doesn't count. Impressions: the Wisconsin fan base is huge (thursday afternoon is hardly ideal to draw crowds), devoted (yes they did start showing up in droves well before the official estimated starting time), LOUD, enthusiastic, and follow the strict dress code of wearing some red with "Wisconsin" on it. The student section is bigger and more vocal than Minn's. The crowd sings songs in between sets and seems to have a great time. The players have a nice custom of going to different parts of the arena to thank the fans and sing the school song. Almost everyone masks, but they don't enforce the rule against violators (thinking of you, Baylor fans sitting in back of the Baylor bench, half of whom weren't even pretending to eat or have a mask cover something in the proximity of their noses). The only negatives were: parking sucked and those bench seats! So cramped and uncomfortable (no chairbacks anywhere, as far as I could tell) that I almost expected to hear the captain's announcement to put on our seat belts.
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