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Post by nellynel on Dec 14, 2021 9:07:07 GMT -5
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Post by volleyaudience on Dec 14, 2021 12:58:42 GMT -5
Volleymetric passing numbers from the game (3 point scale) Texas: Logan Eggleston: 1.80 on 23 attempts Melanie Parra: 1.54 on 12 attempts Sydney Peterson: 1.36 on 21 attempts Nalani Iosia: 1.35 on 24 attempts Skylar Fields: 1.33 on 3 attempts Riley Heinrich: 0.75 on 4 attempts Nebraska: Madi Kubik: 2.09 on 34 attempts Kenzie Knuckles: 2.03 on 18 attempts Lexi Rodriguez: 1.38 on 8 attempts Keonilei Akana: 1.08 on 13 attempts Wow #1: Knuckles, who is usually disrespected in these comparisons, vs Roddy. Wow #2: Roddy having passing numbers almost identical to Iosia. Facts so often get in the way of a good narrative. |
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Post by FreeBall on Dec 14, 2021 13:03:32 GMT -5
Is eight attempts a large enough sample to really draw meaningful conclusions from the Rodriguez #'s?
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 14, 2021 13:04:49 GMT -5
Volleymetric passing numbers from the game (3 point scale) Texas: Logan Eggleston: 1.80 on 23 attempts Melanie Parra: 1.54 on 12 attempts Sydney Peterson: 1.36 on 21 attempts Nalani Iosia: 1.35 on 24 attempts Skylar Fields: 1.33 on 3 attempts Riley Heinrich: 0.75 on 4 attempts Nebraska: Madi Kubik: 2.09 on 34 attempts Kenzie Knuckles: 2.03 on 18 attempts Lexi Rodriguez: 1.38 on 8 attempts Keonilei Akana: 1.08 on 13 attempts Wow #1: Knuckles, who is usually disrespected in these comparisons, vs Roddy. Wow #2: Roddy having passing numbers almost identical to Iosia. Facts so often get in the way of a good narrative. 8 attempts is a whole lot different than 24 tho |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 14, 2021 13:05:58 GMT -5
Volleymetric passing numbers from the game (3 point scale) Texas: Logan Eggleston: 1.80 on 23 attempts Melanie Parra: 1.54 on 12 attempts Sydney Peterson: 1.36 on 21 attempts Nalani Iosia: 1.35 on 24 attempts Skylar Fields: 1.33 on 3 attempts Riley Heinrich: 0.75 on 4 attempts Nebraska: Madi Kubik: 2.09 on 34 attempts Kenzie Knuckles: 2.03 on 18 attempts Lexi Rodriguez: 1.38 on 8 attempts Keonilei Akana: 1.08 on 13 attempts Wow #1: Knuckles, who is usually disrespected in these comparisons, vs Roddy. Wow #2: Roddy having passing numbers almost identical to Iosia. Facts so often get in the way of a good narrative. Only Rodriguez passed badly on 8 attempts vs 24 for Iosia so the impact on the offense was much greater for Texas. |
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Post by jwvolley on Dec 14, 2021 13:06:38 GMT -5
Is eight attempts a large enough sample to really draw meaningful conclusions from the Rodriguez #'s? Lol no. If that poster is trying to claim Rodriguez and Iosia are comparable ball control players, that's just silly. Compare their season stats. Rodriguez didn't do great overall on the serves she got in this match but she only had 8 attempts which makes it easier to have a bad grade because any individual error will have a more significant impact on your stats. |
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Post by ineedajob on Dec 14, 2021 13:11:36 GMT -5
Volleymetric passing numbers from the game (3 point scale) Texas: Logan Eggleston: 1.80 on 23 attempts Melanie Parra: 1.54 on 12 attempts Sydney Peterson: 1.36 on 21 attempts Nalani Iosia: 1.35 on 24 attempts Skylar Fields: 1.33 on 3 attempts Riley Heinrich: 0.75 on 4 attempts Nebraska: Madi Kubik: 2.09 on 34 attempts Kenzie Knuckles: 2.03 on 18 attempts Lexi Rodriguez: 1.38 on 8 attempts Keonilei Akana: 1.08 on 13 attempts Wow #1: Knuckles, who is usually disrespected in these comparisons, vs Roddy. Wow #2: Roddy having passing numbers almost identical to Iosia. Facts so often get in the way of a good narrative. Nah, that’s just a sample size problem. Her 8 passes isn’t enough to make any sort of judgment (other than showing how much Texas was trying to avoid serving her), especially when her one time being aced came on a “let” serve. |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 14, 2021 13:14:07 GMT -5
I do think it’s an indication of how tuff both teams were serving each other. Some questions remaining are can any team serve NU as tough as Texas did (without the 14 SE)? They will greatly increase their odds of beating NU. Will NE face a team with such an abysmal passing night as they did with Texas? If so their odds of beating who ever go up significantly.
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Dec 14, 2021 13:16:24 GMT -5
Volleymetric passing numbers from the game (3 point scale) Texas: Logan Eggleston: 1.80 on 23 attempts Melanie Parra: 1.54 on 12 attempts Sydney Peterson: 1.36 on 21 attempts Nalani Iosia: 1.35 on 24 attempts Skylar Fields: 1.33 on 3 attempts Riley Heinrich: 0.75 on 4 attempts Nebraska: Madi Kubik: 2.09 on 34 attempts Kenzie Knuckles: 2.03 on 18 attempts Lexi Rodriguez: 1.38 on 8 attempts Keonilei Akana: 1.08 on 13 attempts Wow #1: Knuckles, who is usually disrespected in these comparisons, vs Roddy. Wow #2: Roddy having passing numbers almost identical to Iosia. Facts so often get in the way of a good narrative. 8 attempts vs. 24 attempts is a pretty significant difference. |
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Post by knapplc on Dec 14, 2021 13:22:10 GMT -5
Will NE face a team with such an abysmal passing night as they did with Texas? If so their odds of beating who ever go up significantly. Was that a product of Nebraska's tough serve or Texas' bad passing night? Can anyone with access to the numbers tell us how Nebraska's other tournament opponents passed? |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 14, 2021 13:30:14 GMT -5
Will NE face a team with such an abysmal passing night as they did with Texas? If so their odds of beating who ever go up significantly. Was that a product of Nebraska's tough serve or Texas' bad passing night? Can anyone with access to the numbers tell us how Nebraska's other tournament opponents passed? I think it’s both, Nebraska passed tough. Texas passing is an adventure. The combination was tilted way in Nebraska’s favor. But even with that tough serving, let’s say Pitt has a solid passing night, that advantage gets reduced. Likewise I believe someone already posted Texas( an extremely tough serving team I think Madden said holding teams to like 1.8 on the year) made Nebraska pass a season low (believe this is what I read) of around 1.8. Now can Pitt or anyone else serve that tough, maybe-maybe not we’ll find out. If they can’t big advantage for Nebraska. |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Dec 14, 2021 13:36:52 GMT -5
Will NE face a team with such an abysmal passing night as they did with Texas? If so their odds of beating who ever go up significantly. Was that a product of Nebraska's tough serve or Texas' bad passing night? Can anyone with access to the numbers tell us how Nebraska's other tournament opponents passed? Illinois passed a 1.86 against them while passing a 1.98 on the year. Florida State passed a 2.11 against them while passing a 2.19 on the year. Texas passed a 1.46 against them while passing a 1.99 on the year. For reference, Nebraska’s opponents passed a 1.97 against them on the year. Pitt has passed a 2.18 on the year and a 2.14 in the tournament. |
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Post by ineedajob on Dec 14, 2021 13:38:41 GMT -5
Will NE face a team with such an abysmal passing night as they did with Texas? If so their odds of beating who ever go up significantly. Was that a product of Nebraska's tough serve or Texas' bad passing night? Can anyone with access to the numbers tell us how Nebraska's other tournament opponents passed? All the other opponents passed far better than Texas, according to the numbers. It is important to know that these numbers are not always perfect though. The system is really good, but there is still room for human error and different coders may see things a little bit differently - sometimes even the camera angle can affect the way a coder sees the pass, affecting the rating they assign. Campbell: 2.02, 48.5 GoodPass% FSU: 2.11, 58.2 GP% Illinois: 1.86, 40.0 GP% Texas: 1.46, 16.9 GP% |
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Post by nellynel on Dec 14, 2021 13:43:12 GMT -5
Was that a product of Nebraska's tough serve or Texas' bad passing night? Can anyone with access to the numbers tell us how Nebraska's other tournament opponents passed? Illinois passed a 1.86 against them while passing a 1.98 on the year. Florida State passed a 2.11 against them while passing a 2.19 on the year. Texas passed a 1.46 against them while passing a 1.99 on the year. For reference, Nebraska’s opponents passed a 1.97 against them on the year. Pitt has passed a 2.18 on the year and a 2.14 in the tournament. If Texas passes a 1.97 that’s probably a 3-1 Texas win. I don’t think Nebraska can count on anyone being as bad as Texas was that night. Doesn’t mean they still can’t win if opponents aren’t that bad. |
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Post by knapplc on Dec 14, 2021 13:46:38 GMT -5
Illinois passed a 1.86 against them while passing a 1.98 on the year. Florida State passed a 2.11 against them while passing a 2.19 on the year. Texas passed a 1.46 against them while passing a 1.99 on the year. For reference, Nebraska’s opponents passed a 1.97 against them on the year. Pitt has passed a 2.18 on the year and a 2.14 in the tournament. If Texas passes a 1.97 that’s probably a 3-1 Texas win. I don’t think Nebraska can count on anyone being as bad as Texas was that night. Doesn’t mean they still can’t win if opponents aren’t that bad. What those numbers show me is everyone who's faced Nebraska this postseason has had a worse than average passing night. Pitt passing around 2.05 would maybe be in range for other teams. But is that enough to win? |
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