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Post by bucky415 on Dec 17, 2021 1:46:00 GMT -5
If someone wants to bring back the B1G/ACC challenge that had been Wisconsin and Minnesota always and Louisville/ND/UNC/FSU, with rotating sites, I would be fine with Louisville and someone else for 4 years, being willing for the Badgers to take losses to get tested heavily!
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Post by bballnut90 on Dec 17, 2021 2:32:06 GMT -5
I gotta say as a Badger fan I was glad we pulled it out but I had so much love for Louisville tonight and I wish they could've won too. They played their hearts out and had an unforgettable season. What they accomplished is incredible. They came painfully close to being undefeated entering the title match and dominated a very good schedule, beating Nebraska (sweep), Purdue (sweep), Kentucky, Pitt (2x), GT (3x, 2 sweeps), Florida(sweep). I would've loved to see DBK be the first woman to win a title, and win it with a group of kids who weren't the most heralded coming out of high school. Even if they came up just short, it was a heck of a run. Congrats an amazing season.
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Post by Cruz'n on Dec 17, 2021 5:50:58 GMT -5
Great match.
Glad Louisville won the 4th set, cuz that was a HORRIBLE call to get Wisconsin to 23.
Many said that the ball broke the plane.
Who cares???
2 contacts were already made by Wisconsin. The ball was on the way over the net, and no
Wisonsin player was attempting to attack the ball.
Perhaps the rule has changed; but it used to be that if the attacking team makes no attempt to
attack the ball on the third contact, then the ball does not even have to cross the plane for
the opposing side to attack the ball.
In this case, even if the rule has been modified, it was a horrible call. Either the ball broke the
plane, or it was too close to call. Since Wisconsin was not making any attempt to attack the ball,
Louisville is not taking away any opportunity from Wisconsin.
Score should be 24-22 Louisville; instead it is 23 -23. And just a long, great rally. Ref inserting herself
to affect the outcome. Just an absolutely horrible call that should NEVER be made.
Glad Louisville kept their composure and won that set.
Congrats to both teams for a great match, high quality volleyball.
Seems to me that Wisconsin's experience, and having been there before, paid off in the end.
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Post by hebrooks87 on Dec 17, 2021 8:05:49 GMT -5
Beach is only if contact is made. Foot is never allowed fully over the line in indoor. This is true for high school (at least for Cali). In USAV (Club) it is if it interferes with player on other side (judgement call). NFHS (High School)-Hand or foot can touch the opponent's court as long as some part of the hand or foot is touching or over the centerline. Any other body part touching the opponent's court is a violation. NCAA-You can touch the opponent's court if you are on the center line as long as you're not interfering with play. You can completely cross the center line as long as you don't interfere or create a safety hazard for your opponent as long as some part of your body remains in contact with or is above the center line. USAV-Slightly different wording, but essentially the same rule-can't be on the line if you're interfering with play. Can cross the center line completely as long as no interference with play or safety hazard. |
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Post by robtearle on Dec 17, 2021 8:35:16 GMT -5
Fittingly, each team scored the same total of 103 points during the match.
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Post by bprtbone on Dec 17, 2021 8:54:26 GMT -5
It’s the morning after and I’m still buzzing over Smrek’s performance.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Dec 17, 2021 8:56:16 GMT -5
The thing with Texas is I feel like they've historically been a good team that does so well in the seasons, then just fall apart once they get deep into the tournament. I do agree somewhat though because I don't think Texas should've lost to Kentucky in 2021... Slightly disagree. Maybe on paper, but Yrxas played well Kentucky just played better and earned it. Not like Texas self destruction so many times before. "Yrxas" Seen several different spellings of Texas, first time for this one  |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Dec 17, 2021 9:09:00 GMT -5
I gotta say as a Badger fan I was glad we pulled it out but I had so much love for Louisville tonight and I wish they could've won too. They played their hearts out and had an unforgettable season. What they accomplished is incredible. They came painfully close to being undefeated entering the title match and dominated a very good schedule, beating Nebraska (sweep), Purdue (sweep), Kentucky, Pitt (2x), GT (3x, 2 sweeps), Florida(sweep). I would've loved to see DBK be the first woman to win a title, and win it with a group of kids who weren't the most heralded coming out of high school. Even if they came up just short, it was a heck of a run. Congrats an amazing season. When Prebvb was still a viable source of info, Debeer was a #19 senior ace (2020) with Ayden Bartlett at #94 In 2019 Tillman was #30, Nena Mbonu was #55. They also had commitments from Amber Stivrins who went to Georgia and Shannon Shields who ended up at ASU Stevenson was #82 in 2017, Chaussee was not named, neither was Dilfer. Elena Scott was named to the Frosh 59 HHM in 2017 |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Dec 17, 2021 9:12:16 GMT -5
This is true for high school (at least for Cali). In USAV (Club) it is if it interferes with player on other side (judgement call). NFHS (High School)-Hand or foot can touch the opponent's court as long as some part of the hand or foot is touching or over the centerline. Any other body part touching the opponent's court is a violation. NCAA-You can touch the opponent's court if you are on the center line as long as you're not interfering with play. You can completely cross the center line as long as you don't interfere or create a safety hazard for your opponent as long as some part of your body remains in contact with or is above the center line. USAV-Slightly different wording, but essentially the same rule-can't be on the line if you're interfering with play. Can cross the center line completely as long as no interference with play or safety hazard. If a shoelace touches the center line in Wisconsin they call you for it. I love it, as I said earlier, far too many injuries happen when people land over the line. It is there for a reason, you get called if you turn and your elbow brushes the net, you get called if the ball flies 10' over the pin, you should always get called if you touch the center line. |
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Dec 17, 2021 9:44:20 GMT -5
Why is everyone saying it’s a bad call? It was a clear reach over Because it was. |
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Dec 17, 2021 9:45:30 GMT -5
From above the ball looked on the tape tbh but I mean it’s so close that I don’t think it was the wrong call If it's that close on a rally like that it's definitely the wrong call. |
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Post by WI FIB on Dec 17, 2021 10:10:10 GMT -5
Great match. Perhaps the rule has changed; but it used to be that if the attacking team makes no attempt to attack the ball on the third contact, then the ball does not even have to cross the plane for the opposing side to attack the ball. That is the rule for a block. That is not, nor has it been (at least for 20 years) the rule for an attack. |
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Post by volleyjeep on Dec 17, 2021 10:41:47 GMT -5
From above the ball looked on the tape tbh but I mean it’s so close that I don’t think it was the wrong call If it's that close on a rally like that it's definitely the wrong call. The correct call should be made, whether or not it's "close" or not. Doesn't matter what the call may be. If it needs to be called, you call it. I thought the over was the correct call in real time and even yelled out over as she reached for the ball. The camera angle on the net in the replay did not give a good idea of the ball had crossed the plane, but the players attacking hand was well over into the other side. I think it was the correct call. All the Louisville player had to do is wait just a little longer. But her aggressiveness cost her in that instance. |
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Post by moderndaycoach on Dec 17, 2021 10:46:38 GMT -5
If it's that close on a rally like that it's definitely the wrong call. The correct call should be made, whether or not it's "close" or not. Doesn't matter what the call may be. If it needs to be called, you call it. I thought the over was the correct call in real time and even yelled out over as she reached for the ball. The camera angle on the net in the replay did not give a good idea of the ball had crossed the plane, but the players attacking hand was well over into the other side. I think it was the correct call. All the Louisville player had to do is wait just a little longer. But her aggressiveness cost her in that instance. Totally agree the right call was made immediately, that ball had all the chance in the world to hit the tape and roll back down on Wisconsin side, irrelevant if it would have been kept alive, but there was a chance it could have stayed - had she waited just another second and D-Block it or hit it we wouldn't be having this convo but Patti made the right call. In the end it didn't change the game, the wheels fell off for Louisville in set 5. |
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Post by volleyjeep on Dec 17, 2021 10:49:11 GMT -5
The correct call should be made, whether or not it's "close" or not. Doesn't matter what the call may be. If it needs to be called, you call it. I thought the over was the correct call in real time and even yelled out over as she reached for the ball. The camera angle on the net in the replay did not give a good idea of the ball had crossed the plane, but the players attacking hand was well over into the other side. I think it was the correct call. All the Louisville player had to do is wait just a little longer. But her aggressiveness cost her in that instance. Totally agree the right call was made immediately, that ball had all the chance in the world to hit the tape and roll back down on Wisconsin side, irrelevant if it would have been kept alive, but there was a chance it could have stayed - had she waited just another second and D-Block it or hit it we wouldn't be having this convo but Patti made the right call. In the end it didn't change the game, the wheels fell off for Louisville in set 5. Absolutely! Just a split second longer and we don't have this discussion. Though that play was a big turning point for Wisc because it turned into a 3 point swing (unless my memory is wrong about what the score was). Big momentum shift. |
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