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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 17:01:05 GMT -5
Number of time Batenhorst hit hard cleanly over the Texas block (no tips or rollshots)- 3 times on 33 attempts. she had a great tooling match. Oh and she was up majority of the time with 5'8 Gabriel who maybe touches 9'8 (I'd realistically say 9'6) on a good day. She isn't up with 10'+ touching Fairbanks and Ndee. Ok you and madden take Pittsburgh, I'll take Nebraska. Then we'll argue after the match ? How does that sound. that’s not even what we are saying. We are just saying it was off base of you to admit to never watching a team and then making claims about the match up. |
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Post by radioactiveman on Dec 13, 2021 18:06:09 GMT -5
Nebraska hitters don't generally hit over blocks. The hit around the block and tool blocks. Even the Stivrins Slide is predicated on hitting around blocks which is why when the defense reacts properly to it you see her get blocked straight down. Batenhorst seems to have significantly improved her ability to use blocks, not hit over them the past few games. We will see if she can continue that, but I don't think how high the block touch is will be the deciding factor on who wins that match up. Proper positioning and technique will.
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Post by hail2pitt on Dec 13, 2021 18:19:30 GMT -5
Nebraska hitters don't generally hit over blocks. The hit around the block and tool blocks. Even the Stivrins Slide is predicated on hitting around blocks which is why when the defense reacts properly to it you see her get blocked straight down. Batenhorst seems to have significantly improved her ability to use blocks, not hit over them the past few games. We will see if she can continue that, but I don't think how high the block touch is will be the deciding factor on who wins that match up. Proper positioning and technique will. All agreed here. I was only mentioning the block touch because somebody was saying that batenhorst was going to hit over Pitt’s block. Batenhorst had a field day against Texas’ block tooling them- she had a great night |
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Post by rjaege on Dec 13, 2021 18:25:45 GMT -5
True. I think my bigger point is that there are a lot of little things that I personally would give Nebraska a slight edge on and that can add up to make this game closer or why some might favor Nebraska. Gotcha. It all comes down to performance that night. What worries me is the idea of having to need a repeat performance by Nebraska rookie pins, that’s a real wild card imo. Roddy I have no doubt will ball out and be as good as any player on the floor. Batenhorst and Krause have been improving and playing with increased confidence over the last several games. Steady progression of better play. So I'm optimistic. |
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Post by vergyltantor on Dec 13, 2021 18:52:02 GMT -5
One of the keys I will be watching for Thursday is if the Nebraska Middles are able to double team the pins on defense.
This Pitt offense will be the fastest offense the Huskers have seen at least since the start of the conference season. Nebraska has amazing back court defense but if like against Purdue the Pitt hitters are left with one-on-one opportunities at the net it will be tough to slow them down no matter how good the back row defense is.
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Post by azsker on Dec 13, 2021 19:17:11 GMT -5
I understand the point you are making. However, just a few thoughts to consider that may help explain why Nebraska is being picked. 1.) Nebraska has multiple key players who have been at this stage And have freshman who have competed for the National team on big stages. 2.) Nebraska coaching staff, especially John Cook has been here so many times and I think that gives them the edge in that category. 3.) Nebraska is playing very loose - they are the underdogs and they are enjoying that role. 4.) Nebraska went to Texas and beat Texas last game. The momentum and confidence the team has from that is huge. 5.) The difference between a SOS 2 and 8 isn’t that big. To end the season Nebraska played Penn State at home, then at Wisconsin and at Purdue and last game at Texas. 6.)What’s the biggest crowd Pitt has played in front of this year? (This one is small but still important). Basically what I am saying is there are a lot of factors at play where one picking Nebraska isn’t a slight to Pitt or someone being a homer. Now all that said as a die hard Husker fan - I legit see this as 50/50 but am more confident than I was for the Texas game (saw that as 25/75). 1) Eh. Nebraska hasn't had tourney success much different from Pitt recently. I doubt the Nebraska players will truly be more prepared than Pitt's due to past experience in any significant way. 2) True. 3) Pitt is also playing loose now. They've gotten the PSU and never made it to the FF monkeys off their backs. They have now gotten as far as their seeding says they should go. No advantage for Neb here. 4) Yep. And that one game matters more than all of the others? Color me *very* skeptical. 5) Agreed. I led with that stat to push down any condescending remarks that Pitt isn't battle-tested like a B1G team would be. The difference, though slight, does favor Pitt though. 6) Eh. I like your friendly tone here, but honestly only see one good point out of six. I think the other good point in favor of the Huskers wasn't even mentioned by you: the injury to Lund. Anyway, I think an objective review of the accomplishments of these two teams this season should result in a realization that this game isn't 50/50. Pitt should be favored. Pitt has 3 ranked wins since the middle of September, and 2 of them are PSU and Purdue. Nebraska is 4-0 against those teams, going 12-3 in sets. I have to lol at your *very* skeptical thoughts on them. It's not just a win at Texas on their resume, boo. I'm not saying Pitt is or isn't better. They have a phenomenal team. I'm excited for Thursday and hoping for a good match. Again, just find your skepticism a little humorous  just remember, not one person cares about any accomplishment prior to Thursday. Nor does it have any impact on the match.. |
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Post by volleyaudience on Dec 13, 2021 19:24:48 GMT -5
Dave Shondell's Purdue team played all four final four teams. In an interview with Volleyballmag.com, he said Pitt is great. Deserves to be in the final four with the other three. He said they are good in transition and fast. Especially if not served tough. He then said this may be the best final four we've ever seen.
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Post by plm on Dec 13, 2021 20:22:07 GMT -5
I understand the point you are making. However, just a few thoughts to consider that may help explain why Nebraska is being picked. 1.) Nebraska has multiple key players who have been at this stage And have freshman who have competed for the National team on big stages. 2.) Nebraska coaching staff, especially John Cook has been here so many times and I think that gives them the edge in that category. 3.) Nebraska is playing very loose - they are the underdogs and they are enjoying that role. 4.) Nebraska went to Texas and beat Texas last game. The momentum and confidence the team has from that is huge. 5.) The difference between a SOS 2 and 8 isn’t that big. To end the season Nebraska played Penn State at home, then at Wisconsin and at Purdue and last game at Texas. 6.)What’s the biggest crowd Pitt has played in front of this year? (This one is small but still important). Basically what I am saying is there are a lot of factors at play where one picking Nebraska isn’t a slight to Pitt or someone being a homer. Now all that said as a die hard Husker fan - I legit see this as 50/50 but am more confident than I was for the Texas game (saw that as 25/75). 1) Eh. Nebraska hasn't had tourney success much different from Pitt recently. I doubt the Nebraska players will truly be more prepared than Pitt's due to past experience in any significant way. 2) True. 3) Pitt is also playing loose now. They've gotten the PSU and never made it to the FF monkeys off their backs. They have now gotten as far as their seeding says they should go. No advantage for Neb here. 4) Yep. And that one game matters more than all of the others? Color me *very* skeptical. 5) Agreed. I led with that stat to push down any condescending remarks that Pitt isn't battle-tested like a B1G team would be. The difference, though slight, does favor Pitt though. 6) Eh. I like your friendly tone here, but honestly only see one good point out of six. I think the other good point in favor of the Huskers wasn't even mentioned by you: the injury to Lund. Anyway, I think an objective review of the accomplishments of these two teams this season should result in a realization that this game isn't 50/50. Pitt should be favored. I don't know where you get that Nebraska hasn't had much tourney success recently. Nebraska has been to the FF every year since except for the last two years since 2015. Stivrins started on the 2017 championship team as well as playing on the 2018 runner up team. Hames, Sun, Stivrins, & Schwarzenbach all were starters on the 2018 team. |
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Post by ilikecorn on Dec 13, 2021 20:26:47 GMT -5
Who's got the legit statbroadcast link? Or am I gonna have to hit up some Nebraska media members?
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Post by ted_heise on Dec 13, 2021 20:37:38 GMT -5
If the freshmen of Nebraska don't shine, we always have Kubik, Caffey, and the almighty Stivrins. I think Batenhorst (didn't know she was a native of Texas) goes over the Pitt block, and Krause is a champion (Omaha Skutt HS won 4 championships with her) and will find a way, her confidence these last few weeks has been through the roof. GO BIG RED! Ally's parent's roots are Nebraska! Correct. Back in college days, my wife was in some Nebraska pageants with Ally's mom. I think Ally was actually born in Omaha, which would in fact make her a Nebraska native. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Dec 13, 2021 22:50:42 GMT -5
You can all watch Pitt now
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Post by aardvark on Dec 14, 2021 4:58:31 GMT -5
I don't know where you get that Nebraska hasn't had much tourney success recently. Nebraska has been to the FF every year since except for the last two years since 2015. Stivrins started on the 2017 championship team as well as playing on the 2018 runner up team. Hames, Sun, Stivrins, & Schwarzenbach all were starters on the 2018 team. I did in fact mean the last two years. I suppose I should have explicitly said that, knowing that someone in the great massive army of Nebraska fans would have brought it up. |
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Post by rjaege on Dec 14, 2021 5:20:46 GMT -5
I don't know where you get that Nebraska hasn't had much tourney success recently. Nebraska has been to the FF every year since except for the last two years since 2015. Stivrins started on the 2017 championship team as well as playing on the 2018 runner up team. Hames, Sun, Stivrins, & Schwarzenbach all were starters on the 2018 team. I did in fact mean the last two years. I suppose I should have explicitly said that, knowing that someone in the great massive army of Nebraska fans would have brought it up. Also consider that it's NE, not winning the regional final means they had a 3-1 record in the NCAA tournament in 2019 and 2020, which for most teams would not translate to mean "not having much success"....but at NE it's viewed at bit differently by some...me thinks we've gotten a bit spoiled, but that's OK...GBR! Edit: My error, due to the reduced field of 48 in 2020, they had a 2-1 record in that tournament. And most don't look at tournament success that way. Playing in the Regional Final is a very significant accomplishment indicating you are a top 10 team, but NE goals under Coach Cook are higher. |
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Post by aardvark on Dec 14, 2021 6:25:56 GMT -5
Pitt has 3 ranked wins since the middle of September, and 2 of them are PSU and Purdue. Nebraska is 4-0 against those teams, going 12-3 in sets. I have to lol at your *very* skeptical thoughts on them. It's not just a win at Texas on their resume, boo. Cherry picking. Pitt had zero losses before the middle of September, while Nebraska had three. After the middle of September, Pitt picked up three losses to Nebraska's four. You go on to try to look narrowly at matches versus PSU and Purdue, which duplicates the same flaw in B1GHuskerGuy's analysis: he's trying to draw a conclusion on a subset of the results instead of considering the entire body of work this season. Nebraska is a good team, but Pitt should be favored to win their match on Thursday. |
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Post by rjaege on Dec 14, 2021 6:52:15 GMT -5
Pitt has 3 ranked wins since the middle of September, and 2 of them are PSU and Purdue. Nebraska is 4-0 against those teams, going 12-3 in sets. I have to lol at your *very* skeptical thoughts on them. It's not just a win at Texas on their resume, boo. Cherry picking. Pitt had zero losses before the middle of September, while Nebraska had three. After the middle of September, Pitt picked up three losses to Nebraska's four. You go on to try to look narrowly at matches versus PSU and Purdue, which duplicates the same flaw in B1GHuskerGuy's analysis: he's trying to draw a conclusion on a subset of the results instead of considering the entire body of work this season. Nebraska is a good team, but Pitt should be favored to win their match on Thursday. In 2 days whose favored won't matter. In the meantime, everyone is welcome to their opinion. |
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