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Post by PAPittFan on Dec 13, 2021 13:26:49 GMT -5
Will the time of the match have any effect on the outcome? 10pm eastern time is pretty late, and I guess that would be 9pm Nebraska time. I know they're all youngsters, so maybe it won't. It will have an effect on this old fan when 5am Fri morning rolls around much too quickly, lol. Nebraska played at a scheduled 9:30pm game in the Sweet 16 (even later because Texas/Wash went 5 I just don't have exact time) and Elite 8. I guess I was thinking that it could affect Pitt more and possibly be advantageous to Nebraska since their NE players would be on central time and feel like a 9pm start. But again they're all young lol. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Dec 13, 2021 13:39:07 GMT -5
What do we think fan turnout will be? Nebraska has the furthest drive - but we will still drive lol. Didn’t realize how close Pitt was! They should have a decent amount of fans hopefully. Also lots of hometown love for their 3 Ohio born players? I know several Nebraska fans that are making the trip. |
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Post by volleyaudience on Dec 13, 2021 13:50:00 GMT -5
Congratulations and thanks to Coach Cook, the staff and the Husker team for an interesting and fun year battling back to the final four. Four pretty good teams. Let the matches begin!
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Post by aardvark on Dec 13, 2021 14:46:36 GMT -5
I understand the point you are making. However, just a few thoughts to consider that may help explain why Nebraska is being picked. 1.) Nebraska has multiple key players who have been at this stage And have freshman who have competed for the National team on big stages. 2.) Nebraska coaching staff, especially John Cook has been here so many times and I think that gives them the edge in that category. 3.) Nebraska is playing very loose - they are the underdogs and they are enjoying that role. 4.) Nebraska went to Texas and beat Texas last game. The momentum and confidence the team has from that is huge. 5.) The difference between a SOS 2 and 8 isn’t that big. To end the season Nebraska played Penn State at home, then at Wisconsin and at Purdue and last game at Texas. 6.)What’s the biggest crowd Pitt has played in front of this year? (This one is small but still important). Basically what I am saying is there are a lot of factors at play where one picking Nebraska isn’t a slight to Pitt or someone being a homer. Now all that said as a die hard Husker fan - I legit see this as 50/50 but am more confident than I was for the Texas game (saw that as 25/75). 1) Eh. Nebraska hasn't had tourney success much different from Pitt recently. I doubt the Nebraska players will truly be more prepared than Pitt's due to past experience in any significant way. 2) True. 3) Pitt is also playing loose now. They've gotten the PSU and never made it to the FF monkeys off their backs. They have now gotten as far as their seeding says they should go. No advantage for Neb here. 4) Yep. And that one game matters more than all of the others? Color me *very* skeptical. 5) Agreed. I led with that stat to push down any condescending remarks that Pitt isn't battle-tested like a B1G team would be. The difference, though slight, does favor Pitt though. 6) Eh. I like your friendly tone here, but honestly only see one good point out of six. I think the other good point in favor of the Huskers wasn't even mentioned by you: the injury to Lund. Anyway, I think an objective review of the accomplishments of these two teams this season should result in a realization that this game isn't 50/50. Pitt should be favored. |
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Post by maplespear on Dec 13, 2021 15:06:35 GMT -5
If the freshmen of Nebraska don't shine, we always have Kubik, Caffey, and the almighty Stivrins. I think Batenhorst (didn't know she was a native of Texas) goes over the Pitt block, and Krause is a champion (Omaha Skutt HS won 4 championships with her) and will find a way, her confidence these last few weeks has been through the roof. GO BIG RED! didn’t you just say you’d never seen pitt play and now you’re saying batenhorst will hit over the Pitt block? You are correct, I've really never seen them play. But if Batenhorst can hit over the Texas block, I know she can over the Pitt block. You seem so surprised at this? She's 6.4 so is Krause. Tallest playing player at Pitt is 6.2. Not rocket science madden. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2021 15:08:33 GMT -5
didn’t you just say you’d never seen pitt play and now you’re saying batenhorst will hit over the Pitt block? You are correct, I've really never seen them play. But if Batenhorst can hit over the Texas block, I know she can over the Pitt block. You seem so surprised at this? She's 6.4 so is Krause. Tallest playing player at Pitt is 6 2. Not rocket science madden. this is just incorrect lol. Chinaza Ndee probably touches higher than Batenhorst can even though Chi is only 6 foot. I almost guarantee Serena Gray touches higher too. It’s okay that you haven’t seen Pitt play but don’t go around saying sh!t about things you admit to knowing nothing about! Also who did batenhorst hit over against Texas? Jhenna? |
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Post by hail2pitt on Dec 13, 2021 15:15:41 GMT -5
Congratulations and thanks to Coach Cook, the staff and the Husker team for an interesting and fun year battling back to the final four. Four pretty good teams. Let the matches begin! Yes 4 good teams- we are finally at the point where it truly doesn't matter who the better team is in these semi-finals and the final. They're all really god and it comes down to who plays better in that match and just shows up a little more than the other team |
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Post by hail2pitt on Dec 13, 2021 15:23:03 GMT -5
didn’t you just say you’d never seen pitt play and now you’re saying batenhorst will hit over the Pitt block? You are correct, I've really never seen them play. But if Batenhorst can hit over the Texas block, I know she can over the Pitt block. You seem so surprised at this? She's 6.4 so is Krause. Tallest playing player at Pitt is 6.2. Not rocket science madden. Number of time Batenhorst hit hard cleanly over the Texas block (no tips or rollshots)- 3 times on 33 attempts. she had a great tooling match. Oh and she was up majority of the time with 5'8 Gabriel who maybe touches 9'8 (I'd realistically say 9'6) on a good day. She isn't up with 10'+ touching Fairbanks and Ndee. |
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Post by maplespear on Dec 13, 2021 15:27:27 GMT -5
You are correct, I've really never seen them play. But if Batenhorst can hit over the Texas block, I know she can over the Pitt block. You seem so surprised at this? She's 6.4 so is Krause. Tallest playing player at Pitt is 6.2. Not rocket science madden. Number of time Batenhorst hit hard cleanly over the Texas block (no tips or rollshots)- 3 times on 33 attempts. she had a great tooling match. Oh and she was up majority of the time with 5'8 Gabriel who maybe touches 9'8 (I'd realistically say 9'6) on a good day. She isn't up with 10'+ touching Fairbanks and Ndee. Ok you and madden take Pittsburgh, I'll take Nebraska. Then we'll argue after the match ? How does that sound. |
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Dec 13, 2021 16:20:35 GMT -5
I understand the point you are making. However, just a few thoughts to consider that may help explain why Nebraska is being picked. 1.) Nebraska has multiple key players who have been at this stage And have freshman who have competed for the National team on big stages. 2.) Nebraska coaching staff, especially John Cook has been here so many times and I think that gives them the edge in that category. 3.) Nebraska is playing very loose - they are the underdogs and they are enjoying that role. 4.) Nebraska went to Texas and beat Texas last game. The momentum and confidence the team has from that is huge. 5.) The difference between a SOS 2 and 8 isn’t that big. To end the season Nebraska played Penn State at home, then at Wisconsin and at Purdue and last game at Texas. 6.)What’s the biggest crowd Pitt has played in front of this year? (This one is small but still important). Basically what I am saying is there are a lot of factors at play where one picking Nebraska isn’t a slight to Pitt or someone being a homer. Now all that said as a die hard Husker fan - I legit see this as 50/50 but am more confident than I was for the Texas game (saw that as 25/75). 1) Eh. Nebraska hasn't had tourney success much different from Pitt recently. I doubt the Nebraska players will truly be more prepared than Pitt's due to past experience in any significant way. 2) True. 3) Pitt is also playing loose now. They've gotten the PSU and never made it to the FF monkeys off their backs. They have now gotten as far as their seeding says they should go. No advantage for Neb here. 4) Yep. And that one game matters more than all of the others? Color me *very* skeptical. 5) Agreed. I led with that stat to push down any condescending remarks that Pitt isn't battle-tested like a B1G team would be. The difference, though slight, does favor Pitt though. 6) Eh. I like your friendly tone here, but honestly only see one good point out of six. I think the other good point in favor of the Huskers wasn't even mentioned by you: the injury to Lund. Anyway, I think an objective review of the accomplishments of these two teams this season should result in a realization that this game isn't 50/50. Pitt should be favored. Haha, I‘ve seen too many back and forth on VT where tones have either been misinterpreted or just flat out mean and it negates the actual point of the post. Anyway! I respect your counter. I do think you are underestimating importance of final four appearances of players. Lauren was a National champion in 2017 and a runner up along with Hames, Callie, Sun in 2018. It may be not as important as I’m making it out to be. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 13, 2021 16:25:26 GMT -5
1) Eh. Nebraska hasn't had tourney success much different from Pitt recently. I doubt the Nebraska players will truly be more prepared than Pitt's due to past experience in any significant way. 2) True. 3) Pitt is also playing loose now. They've gotten the PSU and never made it to the FF monkeys off their backs. They have now gotten as far as their seeding says they should go. No advantage for Neb here. 4) Yep. And that one game matters more than all of the others? Color me *very* skeptical. 5) Agreed. I led with that stat to push down any condescending remarks that Pitt isn't battle-tested like a B1G team would be. The difference, though slight, does favor Pitt though. 6) Eh. I like your friendly tone here, but honestly only see one good point out of six. I think the other good point in favor of the Huskers wasn't even mentioned by you: the injury to Lund. Anyway, I think an objective review of the accomplishments of these two teams this season should result in a realization that this game isn't 50/50. Pitt should be favored. Haha, I‘ve seen too many back and forth on VT where tones have either been misinterpreted or just flat out mean and it negates the actual point of the post. Anyway! I respect your counter. I do think you are underestimating importance of final four appearances of players. Lauren was a National champion in 2017 and a runner up along with Hames, Callie, Sun in 2018. It may be not as important as I’m making it out to be. I think it’s helpful but not a big determiner. Kentucky had zero experience. |
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Dec 13, 2021 16:28:17 GMT -5
True. I think my bigger point is that there are a lot of little things that I personally would give Nebraska a slight edge on and that can add up to make this game closer or why some might favor Nebraska.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Dec 13, 2021 16:31:51 GMT -5
True. I think my bigger point is that there are a lot of little things that I personally would give Nebraska a slight edge on and that can add up to make this game closer or why some might favor Nebraska. Gotcha. It all comes down to performance that night. What worries me is the idea of having to need a repeat performance by Nebraska rookie pins, that’s a real wild card imo. Roddy I have no doubt will ball out and be as good as any player on the floor. |
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Post by B1GHuskerGuy on Dec 13, 2021 16:49:25 GMT -5
True. I think my bigger point is that there are a lot of little things that I personally would give Nebraska a slight edge on and that can add up to make this game closer or why some might favor Nebraska. Gotcha. It all comes down to performance that night. What worries me is the idea of having to need a repeat performance by Nebraska rookie pins, that’s a real wild card imo. Roddy I have no doubt will ball out and be as good as any player on the floor. Very much agree! 1 game does not show they can do it consistently. I do however feel a lot better after watching it happen finally haha. |
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Post by volleyaudience on Dec 13, 2021 16:57:48 GMT -5
Congratulations and thanks to Coach Cook, the staff and the Husker team for an interesting and fun year battling back to the final four. Four pretty good teams. Let the matches begin! Yes 4 good teams- we are finally at the point where it truly doesn't matter who the better team is in these semi-finals and the final. They're all really god and it comes down to who plays better in that match and just shows up a little more than the other team Well, I think it might be overdoing the sarcasm to say they are all god. 😒 |
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