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Post by mgk_vball on May 9, 2022 11:25:33 GMT -5
Just buy him out. I’ll chip in so are we starting a gofundme or…. |
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Post by sunsuphornsup on May 9, 2022 11:33:59 GMT -5
This is horrendous. He should not be allowed to coach.
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Post by ineedajob on May 9, 2022 11:36:46 GMT -5
"At Maryland, Alden said the players were often limited in what they could order at restaurants. Alden also said players would be weighed by the team three to five times a day during the preseason. Myers said she was told it was to see how much water weight they had lost during practice, but she thought it was unhealthy." This quote. Especially since Myers has publicly discussed her issues with an ED. I have to think the Indiana situation is worse than this, but... sometimes we travel to restaurants and we put a limit on what we can order (a dollar limit and restrict certain items - milkshakes, ice cream, sodas, some food items that wouldn't be smart for athletes to eat before competition). I've also been somewhere that had weigh-ins during pre-season practices to determine the loss of water-weight. Neither the players nor the coaches got to see the weights, but the athletic trainer had the ability to hold a player out of practice if they showed dehydration. I imagine the Indiana situation is worse than this, but this quote doesn't indicate that it definitely is. |
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Post by timmyt on May 9, 2022 11:39:53 GMT -5
Isn’t there an investigation on him paying players and recruits?
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Post by tomclen on May 9, 2022 11:40:51 GMT -5
If you're thinking about it, please don't order sweet potato fries to be delivered to the IU President
Office of the President Indiana University Bryan Hall 200 107 S. Indiana Ave. Bloomington, IN 47405 Please don't. It would be so wrong.
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Post by Word on May 9, 2022 11:50:16 GMT -5
"At Maryland, Alden said the players were often limited in what they could order at restaurants. Alden also said players would be weighed by the team three to five times a day during the preseason. Myers said she was told it was to see how much water weight they had lost during practice, but she thought it was unhealthy." This quote. Especially since Myers has publicly discussed her issues with an ED. I have to think the Indiana situation is worse than this, but... sometimes we travel to restaurants and we put a limit on what we can order (a dollar limit and restrict certain items - milkshakes, ice cream, sodas, some food items that wouldn't be smart for athletes to eat before competition). I've also been somewhere that had weigh-ins during pre-season practices to determine the loss of water-weight. Neither the players nor the coaches got to see the weights, but the athletic trainer had the ability to hold a player out of practice if they showed dehydration. I imagine the Indiana situation is worse than this, but this quote doesn't indicate that it definitely is. I think a lot of programs limit what their athletes can eat at restaurants on road trips don't they? No junk food, no fried food, stuff like that. You want your athletes at peak performance. Is that wrong? |
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Post by nevball17 on May 9, 2022 11:53:55 GMT -5
I have to think the Indiana situation is worse than this, but... sometimes we travel to restaurants and we put a limit on what we can order (a dollar limit and restrict certain items - milkshakes, ice cream, sodas, some food items that wouldn't be smart for athletes to eat before competition). I've also been somewhere that had weigh-ins during pre-season practices to determine the loss of water-weight. Neither the players nor the coaches got to see the weights, but the athletic trainer had the ability to hold a player out of practice if they showed dehydration. I imagine the Indiana situation is worse than this, but this quote doesn't indicate that it definitely is. I think a lot of programs limit what their athletes can eat at restaurants on road trips don't they? No junk food, no fried food, stuff like that. You want your athletes at peak performance. Is that wrong? Of course they do. The article contributes this to a culture of certain players being targeted and shamed because of their bodies and weight. They specifically said that Aird was criticizing food choices that had been approved by the nutritionist. |
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Post by greatlakesvballer on May 9, 2022 11:54:08 GMT -5
If you're thinking about it, please don't order sweet potato fries to be delivered to the IU President
Office of the President Indiana University Bryan Hall 200 107 S. Indiana Ave. Bloomington, IN 47405 Please don't. It would be so wrong.
Excellent. They ARE probably hungry over there. Perhaps sweet potato fries with a side of truth? |
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Post by robtearle on May 9, 2022 11:55:27 GMT -5
I have to think the Indiana situation is worse than this, but... sometimes we travel to restaurants and we put a limit on what we can order (a dollar limit and restrict certain items - milkshakes, ice cream, sodas, some food items that wouldn't be smart for athletes to eat before competition). I've also been somewhere that had weigh-ins during pre-season practices to determine the loss of water-weight. Neither the players nor the coaches got to see the weights, but the athletic trainer had the ability to hold a player out of practice if they showed dehydration. I imagine the Indiana situation is worse than this, but this quote doesn't indicate that it definitely is. I think a lot of programs limit what their athletes can eat at restaurants on road trips don't they? No junk food, no fried food, stuff like that. You want your athletes at peak performance. Is that wrong? If you have not yet watched the "sweet potato" tiktok, you should. https://www.tiktok.com/@mewowkitten/video/7061608745188658479 |
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Post by southeastvbfan on May 9, 2022 11:57:51 GMT -5
I think a lot of programs limit what their athletes can eat at restaurants on road trips don't they? No junk food, no fried food, stuff like that. You want your athletes at peak performance. Is that wrong? Of course they do. The article contributes this to a culture of certain players being targeted and shamed because of their bodies and weight. They specifically said that Aird was criticizing food choices that had been approved by the nutritionist. Exactly. There is limiting what athletes eat vs. creating a fat shaming culture on impressionable females that leads to disordered eating. |
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Post by greatlakesvballer on May 9, 2022 11:58:01 GMT -5
Congratulations to Evan Gerike and the IDS.
I hope the university will clean up this mess now.
IU alumnus here...who is tired of having Purdue, Ball State, Notre Dame and many other women's volleyball programs progress and compete nationally, while the Hoosiers have to deal with an insecure guy who has power and propriety issues!
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Post by ineedajob on May 9, 2022 12:00:53 GMT -5
I have to think the Indiana situation is worse than this, but... sometimes we travel to restaurants and we put a limit on what we can order (a dollar limit and restrict certain items - milkshakes, ice cream, sodas, some food items that wouldn't be smart for athletes to eat before competition). I've also been somewhere that had weigh-ins during pre-season practices to determine the loss of water-weight. Neither the players nor the coaches got to see the weights, but the athletic trainer had the ability to hold a player out of practice if they showed dehydration. I imagine the Indiana situation is worse than this, but this quote doesn't indicate that it definitely is. I think a lot of programs limit what their athletes can eat at restaurants on road trips don't they? No junk food, no fried food, stuff like that. You want your athletes at peak performance. Is that wrong? I don't think it's wrong, but it seems like that idea is under attack when the description of the allegations is so vague. Some may even say that a dollar limit is ok, but to restrict different foods isn't ok. When the limit is $15 your player opts for the $8 milkshake and $5 order of cheese fries for their primary meal of the day before competing, we make restrictions so that won't happen again. |
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Post by reader on May 9, 2022 12:01:51 GMT -5
It looks like Gerike is graduating this month. Great note to go out on.
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Post by justahick on May 9, 2022 12:05:18 GMT -5
"At Maryland, Alden said the players were often limited in what they could order at restaurants. Alden also said players would be weighed by the team three to five times a day during the preseason. Myers said she was told it was to see how much water weight they had lost during practice, but she thought it was unhealthy." This quote. Especially since Myers has publicly discussed her issues with an ED. I have to think the Indiana situation is worse than this, but... sometimes we travel to restaurants and we put a limit on what we can order (a dollar limit and restrict certain items - milkshakes, ice cream, sodas, some food items that wouldn't be smart for athletes to eat before competition). I've also been somewhere that had weigh-ins during pre-season practices to determine the loss of water-weight. Neither the players nor the coaches got to see the weights, but the athletic trainer had the ability to hold a player out of practice if they showed dehydration. I imagine the Indiana situation is worse than this, but this quote doesn't indicate that it definitely is. Agree - other indications haven't been good, but this quote is illustrative of absolutely nothing. Preseason weighins are very common - they are often school policy put into place after a rash of incidents (mostly with football) where players died/became very ill due to dehydration. If done correctly (including with education of purpose and trust of training staff), they are certainly not unhealthy and are a necessary part of perventive medical treatment. Limits on meals (especially dollar limits) are standard. There is no other way to manage meal budgets when the team is paying for meal. The only other option is per diem, which many schools do, but is often a bigger pain while on the road - imagine 25 separate checks at a sit down restaurant. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 9, 2022 12:12:02 GMT -5
This literally makes no sense from the AD's perspective.
LOSING program has drama, best players from a bad team continually transferring out in consecutive seasons (remember how Indiana was going to be really good in 5 years because of Stockham and Blackwell?), recruits flipping away, assistants leaving - despite just building a beautiful new facility this is a high-level message that Indiana REALLY does not care about volleyball. No matter what the investigation revealed, any AD who cared about volleyball would have used the presence of an investigation as an excuse to move on.
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