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Post by Kingsley on May 9, 2022 13:24:09 GMT -5
I’m biased, but student journalists are cool.
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Post by pacfan123 on May 9, 2022 13:25:56 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I do not see the issue with limiting what college kids eat at restaurants. You can’t eat chicken fingers and ice cream and be ready to go play Nebraska. I feel like some of this is girls with strong hatred towards Coach Aird and the program having too much of a voice to supply information. If the university did its own investigation, one would hope they could receive better evidence than a student reporter.
I believe there is a lot of truth to it, and I do think IU needs to move on from Coach Aird. My main point is that if you nitpicked any statements from coaches through the year, similar statements are said in multiple programs. I highly doubt Coach Cook and other top coaches only give positive reinforcement.
Again, I believe that IU does need to move on, but I feel like a lot of this happens at all top level programs.
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Post by Phaedrus on May 9, 2022 13:31:37 GMT -5
I have to think the Indiana situation is worse than this, but... sometimes we travel to restaurants and we put a limit on what we can order (a dollar limit and restrict certain items - milkshakes, ice cream, sodas, some food items that wouldn't be smart for athletes to eat before competition). I've also been somewhere that had weigh-ins during pre-season practices to determine the loss of water-weight. Neither the players nor the coaches got to see the weights, but the athletic trainer had the ability to hold a player out of practice if they showed dehydration. I imagine the Indiana situation is worse than this, but this quote doesn't indicate that it definitely is. Agree - other indications haven't been good, but this quote is illustrative of absolutely nothing. Preseason weighins are very common - they are often school policy put into place after a rash of incidents (mostly with football) where players died/became very ill due to dehydration. If done correctly (including with education of purpose and trust of training staff), they are certainly not unhealthy and are a necessary part of perventive medical treatment. Limits on meals (especially dollar limits) are standard. There is no other way to manage meal budgets when the team is paying for meal. The only other option is per diem, which many schools do, but is often a bigger pain while on the road - imagine 25 separate checks at a sit down restaurant. Given that this is the Big Ten, I would suspect that they, as well as the other schools in the conference would have staff nutritionists who work with the athletes on their eating habits, body composition, and their individual metabolism as they worked out and played a Bog Ten volleyball schedule. The days of the coaches controlling the player's diets should be in the past as far as the Big Ten is concerned. But I guess not. |
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Post by knapplc on May 9, 2022 13:32:00 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I do not see the issue with limiting what college kids eat at restaurants. You can’t eat chicken fingers and ice cream and be ready to go play Nebraska. I feel like some of this is girls with strong hatred towards Coach Aird and the program having too much of a voice to supply information. If the university did its own investigation, one would hope they could receive better evidence than a student reporter. I believe there is a lot of truth to it, and I do think IU needs to move on from Coach Aird. My main point is that if you nitpicked any statements from coaches through the year, similar statements are said in multiple programs. I highly doubt Coach Cook and other top coaches only give positive reinforcement. Again, I believe that IU does need to move on, but I feel like a lot of this happens at all top level programs. The difference is in Aird's (alleged) culture of body shaming. |
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Post by Phaedrus on May 9, 2022 13:36:41 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I do not see the issue with limiting what college kids eat at restaurants. You can’t eat chicken fingers and ice cream and be ready to go play Nebraska. I feel like some of this is girls with strong hatred towards Coach Aird and the program having too much of a voice to supply information. If the university did its own investigation, one would hope they could receive better evidence than a student reporter. I believe there is a lot of truth to it, and I do think IU needs to move on from Coach Aird. My main point is that if you nitpicked any statements from coaches through the year, similar statements are said in multiple programs. I highly doubt Coach Cook and other top coaches only give positive reinforcement. Again, I believe that IU does need to move on, but I feel like a lot of this happens at all top level programs. It isn't just about the eating issues, although it is damning enough. Take a holistic look at the body of evidence presented together by the student journalist. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on May 9, 2022 13:39:38 GMT -5
At this point you’d have to believe the administration has at least as much to answer for.
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Post by eazy on May 9, 2022 13:43:15 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I do not see the issue with limiting what college kids eat at restaurants. You can’t eat chicken fingers and ice cream and be ready to go play Nebraska. I feel like some of this is girls with strong hatred towards Coach Aird and the program having too much of a voice to supply information. If the university did its own investigation, one would hope they could receive better evidence than a student reporter. I believe there is a lot of truth to it, and I do think IU needs to move on from Coach Aird. My main point is that if you nitpicked any statements from coaches through the year, similar statements are said in multiple programs. I highly doubt Coach Cook and other top coaches only give positive reinforcement. Again, I believe that IU does need to move on, but I feel like a lot of this happens at all top level programs. Your main point is not to nitpick any statements, and yet you nitpicked two statements to say that no wrong is being done. Do you see anyone defending Aird that isn't doing so to avoid 6 figure expenses? I bet people would be defending Cook, or Hambly, or Cook (Keegan) if these allegations were made. It's not about the restaurants, or the weigh ins, or the yelling. It's the combination of every part of the environment being stressful and fear-inducing. By all accounts, it is a toxic environment that cannot retain or recruit players and that is not happening at all top level programs. |
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Post by badgerbreath on May 9, 2022 13:44:30 GMT -5
I’m beginning to think Maryland may have let Aird go willingly - if not explicitly, then implicitly by not trying that hard to keep him. That whole escapade would make a lot more sense of so.
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Post by badgerbreath on May 9, 2022 13:50:11 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I do not see the issue with limiting what college kids eat at restaurants. You can’t eat chicken fingers and ice cream and be ready to go play Nebraska. I feel like some of this is girls with strong hatred towards Coach Aird and the program having too much of a voice to supply information. If the university did its own investigation, one would hope they could receive better evidence than a student reporter. I believe there is a lot of truth to it, and I do think IU needs to move on from Coach Aird. My main point is that if you nitpicked any statements from coaches through the year, similar statements are said in multiple programs. I highly doubt Coach Cook and other top coaches only give positive reinforcement. Again, I believe that IU does need to move on, but I feel like a lot of this happens at all top level programs. Your main point is not to nitpick any statements, and yet you nitpicked two statements to say that no wrong is being done. Do you see anyone defending Aird that isn't doing so to avoid 6 figure expenses? I bet people would be defending Cook, or Hambly, or Cook (Keegan) if these allegations were made. It's not about the restaurants, or the weigh ins, or the yelling. It's the combination of every part of the environment being stressful and fear-inducing. By all accounts, it is a toxic environment that cannot retain or recruit players and that is not happening at all top level programs. Yeah. I hate it when people pick out individual things that might be ok under the right circumstances, rather than realizing how a consistently degrading culture poisons everything and makes even sensible rules seem like part and parcel of the culture. That’s the problem with toxic cultures. |
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Post by robtearle on May 9, 2022 13:50:50 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I do not see the issue with limiting what college kids eat at restaurants. You can’t eat chicken fingers and ice cream and be ready to go play Nebraska. I feel like some of this is girls with strong hatred towards Coach Aird and the program having too much of a voice to supply information. If the university did its own investigation, one would hope they could receive better evidence than a student reporter. I believe there is a lot of truth to it, and I do think IU needs to move on from Coach Aird. My main point is that if you nitpicked any statements from coaches through the year, similar statements are said in multiple programs. I highly doubt Coach Cook and other top coaches only give positive reinforcement. Again, I believe that IU does need to move on, but I feel like a lot of this happens at all top level programs. Once more, if you have not watched the "sweet potato" tiktok, you should. Because it contains a good deal of information regarding the specific issue you are concerned with. https://www.tiktok.com/@mewowkitten/video/7061608745188658479 |
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Post by n00b on May 9, 2022 13:51:23 GMT -5
I’m beginning to think Maryland may have let Aird go willingly - if not explicitly, then implicitly by not trying that hard to keep him. That whole escapade would make a lot more sense of so. This is a good take. And top players were already on the way out the door. |
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Post by mervinswerved on May 9, 2022 13:53:11 GMT -5
I wonder why they didn't try and speak to any current players.
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Post by toomuchvb on May 9, 2022 13:54:05 GMT -5
Oddly enough, his two new assistants are absolute class acts. Let's see what happens. What did I just read?! Good: Tremendous student reporting! The Bad and Very Ugly: Aird! He needs to be walked out today. IU should take the financial hit now, pay the buyout, and start anew. If the routine verbal, physical and mental abuse weren’t enough, asking to see your athlete’s tattoo when you know it’s on her butt cheek should be grounds for some sort of disciplinary action. He’s a Teflon Don at Indiana. As for the new assistants… They got the sales pitch. Aird hired people behind whose integrity and reputation he can be shielded. They believe they can make changes, if what they’ve heard is true. Positioning themselves for HC opportunity after Aird is terminated? C’mon, IU. Do better for your student-athletes! |
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Post by karellen on May 9, 2022 13:58:03 GMT -5
I wonder why they didn't try and speak to any current players. Based on the atmosphere described, current players may be afraid to speak. |
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Post by eazy on May 9, 2022 13:58:28 GMT -5
Oddly enough, his two new assistants are absolute class acts. Let's see what happens. As for the new assistants… They got the sales pitch. Aird hired people behind whose integrity and reputation he can be shielded. They believe they can make changes, if what they’ve heard is true. Positioning themselves for HC opportunity after Aird is terminated?C’mon, IU. Do better for your student-athletes! |
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