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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 7:58:23 GMT -5
That's a crazy-general claim to make. All universities do this? All the time? Color me skeptical about that. I would be willing to accept that some universities make "very thorough and unbiased investigation" all the time, but certainly not all of them. That is counter to my experience of large hierarchical organizations. Yeah, I agree. I think it depends on the university, and it depends on the investigation. A P5 school with lots of money involved. Yes they have a process that is legit. You wouldn’t want to be investigated in it if you had anything wrong going on. This info is about the process. Again I’m not an Aired fan and I suspect he did some of these things, I just don’t believe attacking a person as a mob with suspect info is appropriate, ever. Especially after being investigated by a legit orocess on top of that. But canceling people is so much more fun now a days, so I understand the lure.
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Post by mervinswerved on May 11, 2022 8:21:15 GMT -5
I see VT Five-0 popped in to the forum to clean up a post. That's... interesting. mods are back
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Post by mervinswerved on May 11, 2022 8:22:30 GMT -5
I remember many people earnestly telling me Steve was 100% going to take over for Russ when he retired.
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Post by akbar on May 11, 2022 8:45:21 GMT -5
I remember many people earnestly telling me Steve was 100% going to take over for Russ when he retired. Not me. I wish Steve well in what ever profession he moves on to. Really I do. Coaching young women is not meant for him.
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Post by n00b on May 11, 2022 8:52:28 GMT -5
I remember many people earnestly telling me Steve was 100% going to take over for Russ when he retired. Not me. I wish Steve well in what ever profession he moves on to. Really I do. Coaching young women is not meant for him. Well before he was a college coach, he ran a juniors club. Not sure him going back to his roots will make the world a better place either.
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Post by bbg95 on May 11, 2022 9:04:12 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree. I think it depends on the university, and it depends on the investigation. A P5 school with lots of money involved. Yes they have a process that is legit. You wouldn’t want to be investigated in it if you had anything wrong going on. This info is about the process. Again I’m not an Aired fan and I suspect he did some of these things, I just don’t believe attacking a person as a mob with suspect info is appropriate, ever. Especially after being investigated by a legit orocess on top of that. But canceling people is so much more fun now a days, so I understand the lure. Of course they can run a comprehensive investigation if they want to. But that's a big if. I'm not even really talking about this particular situation per se. Just the idea that because it's a big school, they would automatically have done a thorough investigation. That viewpoint is rather naïve.
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Post by bbg95 on May 11, 2022 9:05:53 GMT -5
What seems necessary now is the university having an outside firm do an investigation of the administrations internal investigation. Given the way Indiana has operated so far, they'll probably hire an "independent" law firm with a partner who is married to an Indiana official or something. But you never know. Maybe they'll authorize the investigation they should have done in the first place. Either way, they need to make a coaching change.
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Post by timmyt on May 11, 2022 9:23:59 GMT -5
What seems necessary now is the university having an outside firm do an investigation of the administrations internal investigation. Given the way Indiana has operated so far, they'll probably hire an "independent" law firm with a partner who is married to an Indiana official or something. But you never know. Maybe they'll authorize the investigation they should have done in the first place. Either way, they need to make a coaching change. They definitely need an outside firm to comb through the evidence they have. They need to look into the financials also. Players/recruits being paid.
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Post by mervinswerved on May 11, 2022 9:30:51 GMT -5
Given the way Indiana has operated so far, they'll probably hire an "independent" law firm with a partner who is married to an Indiana official or something. But you never know. Maybe they'll authorize the investigation they should have done in the first place. Either way, they need to make a coaching change. They definitely need an outside firm to comb through the evidence they have. They need to look into the financials also. Players/recruits being paid. If Indiana has been paying players, they've been paying the wrong ones.
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Post by northwoods on May 11, 2022 9:39:27 GMT -5
Not me. I wish Steve well in what ever profession he moves on to. Really I do. Coaching young women is not meant for him. Well before he was a college coach, he ran a juniors club. Not sure him going back to his roots will make the world a better place either. Pre-owned Automobile Sales seems right up his alley! His recruiting pitch will feel right at home in that environment…
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Post by knapplc on May 11, 2022 10:22:27 GMT -5
They definitely need an outside firm to comb through the evidence they have. They need to look into the financials also. Players/recruits being paid. If Indiana has been paying players, they've been paying the wrong ones. Perhaps instead of cash they're handing out bags of sweet potato fries.
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Post by tomclen on May 11, 2022 10:30:54 GMT -5
Can someone tell me about these two guys? Their YouTube page refers to them as Indiana Sports Beat Radio. Are they radio guys; radio guys who do a podcast, or just podcast/youtube guys. An interesting conversation - although the guy on the left doesn't seem to offer much insight.
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Post by hangonsloopy on May 11, 2022 11:36:20 GMT -5
Can someone tell me about these two guys? Their YouTube page refers to them as Indiana Sports Beat Radio. Are they radio guys; radio guys who do a podcast, or just podcast/youtube guys. An interesting conversation - although the guy on the left doesn't seem to offer much insight. I don’t really know anything about them, this just popped on Twitter for me while I was checking out reactions to the article…I agree with your observations though
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Post by willtravel2cwvb on May 11, 2022 11:37:13 GMT -5
I remember many people earnestly telling me Steve was 100% going to take over for Russ when he retired. I think those people that told he was the heir apparent heard that from Steve.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 15:24:33 GMT -5
A P5 school with lots of money involved. Yes they have a process that is legit. You wouldn’t want to be investigated in it if you had anything wrong going on. This info is about the process. Again I’m not an Aired fan and I suspect he did some of these things, I just don’t believe attacking a person as a mob with suspect info is appropriate, ever. Especially after being investigated by a legit orocess on top of that. But canceling people is so much more fun now a days, so I understand the lure. Of course they can run a comprehensive investigation if they want to. But that's a big if. I'm not even really talking about this particular situation per se. Just the idea that because it's a big school, they would automatically have done a thorough investigation. That viewpoint is rather naïve. Not naive. It’s the process now. If a school gets a complaint/whistleblower and they decide to investigate it is a serious deal. Run from outside the athletic department. Usually the DEI office. And they don’t mess around.
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