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Post by bbg95 on May 21, 2022 12:13:14 GMT -5
Seems to me that the athletic administration is afraid of coach Aird and are enabling him I don't think they're really afraid of him per se. I think they're afraid of paying his buyout.
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Post by asthma92 on May 21, 2022 12:22:46 GMT -5
Seems to me that the athletic administration is afraid of coach Aird and are enabling him I’d also say the precedent has not been set with respect to letting a HC go based on accusations, overall feelings within the program, and whatever shorty “internal review” the athletic department proceeded with. IMO, and my experience playing in the ncaa, and now coaching for almost a decade, administration plays the “out of sight, out of mind” game. So long as there are boosters and donors that like a coach, it is very seldom that a coach toe staff will get sacked. With Aird, a lot of these things that are coming up seem “fresh”, although this has been happening for a while AND with a track record. Yes, it is pretty clear that based on these accusations and past experiences, Aird was never really ready to work with athletes as a head coach at this level. What this really highlights is that administration did a p*** poor job during the hiring process, and administration does not care for the well-being or success of the athletes. Cool, make a brand new gym with all the bells and whistles, give them all the cool gear, good food, and a chance to travel internationally with their gal pals, BUT, program is not getting better, kids are miserable (with potential long term consequences), and it is making everything significantly more difficult for parents as they even more worried about their child. Look, you have a build a place where people want to be, graduate from, and be able to give back to, especially financially. This situation with Steve should be a wake up call to all head coaches with respect to how NOT to run a program.
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Post by tomclen on May 21, 2022 13:25:19 GMT -5
Seems to me that the athletic administration is afraid of coach Aird and are enabling him I don't think they're really afraid of him per se. I think they're afraid of paying his buyout. Seems possible they may be more afraid of a lawsuit and the additional negative publicity it would bring on IU. Right now, this is a story mostly confined to the volleyball world and, for the most part, one college newspaper article and a podcast. And while they may have 'legal grounds' to terminate his agreement, he can still sue. As the season gets closer, they may be thinking termination will be easier if they can fire him for a poor record in December. I'm guessing the IU attorneys have considered countless scenarios and the AD can't take a pee without talking to legal.
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Post by bbg95 on May 21, 2022 13:38:56 GMT -5
I don't think they're really afraid of him per se. I think they're afraid of paying his buyout. Seems possible they may be more afraid of a lawsuit and the additional negative publicity it would bring on IU. Right now, this is a story mostly confined to the volleyball world and, for the most part, one college newspaper article and a podcast. And while they may have 'legal grounds' to terminate his agreement, he can still sue. As the season gets closer, they may be thinking termination will be easier if they can fire him for a poor record in December. I'm guessing the IU attorneys have considered countless scenarios and the AD can't take a pee without talking to legal. I mean, they can just fire him for not winning enough and pay the buyout. That's why the buyout exists.
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Post by tomclen on May 21, 2022 13:40:49 GMT -5
Seems possible they may be more afraid of a lawsuit and the additional negative publicity it would bring on IU. Right now, this is a story mostly confined to the volleyball world and, for the most part, one college newspaper article and a podcast. And while they may have 'legal grounds' to terminate his agreement, he can still sue. As the season gets closer, they may be thinking termination will be easier if they can fire him for a poor record in December. I'm guessing the IU attorneys have considered countless scenarios and the AD can't take a pee without talking to legal. I mean, they can just fire him for not winning enough and pay the buyout. That's why the buyout exists. And any decent attorney would know that you don't wait this long to fire a coach for not winning.
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Post by bbg95 on May 21, 2022 13:50:51 GMT -5
I mean, they can just fire him for not winning enough and pay the buyout. That's why the buyout exists. And any decent attorney would know that you don't wait this long to fire a coach for not winning. So I agree that they probably won't fire him before the season unless the allegations get significantly worse. They waited too long. But I think it has more to do with their unwillingness to pay the buyout and also the fact that it will be very difficult to find a good replacement this close to the next season.
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Post by n00b on May 21, 2022 13:55:20 GMT -5
I mean, they can just fire him for not winning enough and pay the buyout. That's why the buyout exists. And any decent attorney would know that you don't wait this long to fire a coach for not winning. Why does this matter? The buyout exists so you can end the contract whenever you want, for any reason, right?
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Post by willtravel2cwvb on May 21, 2022 15:03:54 GMT -5
Is it just me, or is Maryland a bit better now than they were under Aird? In Aird's four years, they finished 13th, 12th, 12th, and 10th. Under Hughes, they've finished 8th, t-10th, 11th (Covid year) and 9th. They're still not great, but the second set of finishes is better than the first. I think there's potential for Maryland or Virginia or someone in the DC area to become a good program, as there is quite a bit of talent in that area. Hughes has been much better than Aird, at least when looking at results. But Aird will say that Hughes benefited from the foundation Aird laid. However, Hughes has stayed scandal free. IIRC Hughes has been huge in support of his players, particularly following an ugly sitch at Nebraska. Felt like they return the feels.
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Post by AmeriCanvbdad on May 21, 2022 16:20:17 GMT -5
Hughes has been much better than Aird, at least when looking at results. But Aird will say that Hughes benefited from the foundation Aird laid. However, Hughes has stayed scandal free. IIRC Hughes has been huge in support of his players, particularly following an ugly sitch at Nebraska. Felt like they return the feels. Obviously my opinion, but I think Hughes is a fantastic coach. He has attracted quality talent to Maryland and he's someone I would trust with my daughter.
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Post by tomclen on May 21, 2022 16:52:51 GMT -5
And any decent attorney would know that you don't wait this long to fire a coach for not winning. Why does this matter? The buyout exists so you can end the contract whenever you want, for any reason, right? I don't know the specific language in his contract. Sure, they "can" end the contract whenever they want. But Aird can also sue anytime he wants. (See: Haley, Mick.) I'm simply suggesting this is a complicated, messy set of circumstances. I think the amount of the buyout is insignificant. What is significant is the time and cost of defending against a lawsuit and the reputation to the university if there is a lawsuit. (I'm not an attorney, but I did watch a few episodes of Ally McBeal."
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Post by bbg95 on May 21, 2022 16:54:31 GMT -5
Why does this matter? The buyout exists so you can end the contract whenever you want, for any reason, right? I don't know the specific language in his contract. Sure, they "can" end the contract whenever they want. But Aird can also sue anytime he wants. (See: Haley, Mick.) I'm simply suggesting this is a complicated, messy set of circumstances. I think the amount of the buyout is insignificant. What is significant is the time and cost of defending against a lawsuit and the reputation to the university if there is a lawsuit. (I'm not an attorney, but I did watch a few episodes of Ally McBeal."Sure, he can sue. Doesn't mean he'd have any chance of actually winning the lawsuit if the contract was written correctly. Also, given the allegations against Aird, I'm not sure that filing a lawsuit and calling even more attention to the situation would be in his best interest.
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Post by knapplc on May 21, 2022 17:04:17 GMT -5
(I'm not an attorney, but I did watch a few episodes of Ally McBeal." The Biscuit. Fresh bowls. The dismount. There's a weird trip down memory lane.
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Post by psuvbfan10 on May 21, 2022 17:11:44 GMT -5
If he was fired and took the buyout he can't likely sue, if he gets fired and declines the buyout to sue that it a possibility.
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Post by hornshouse23 on May 21, 2022 18:53:33 GMT -5
You never know what people would do in any given situation, but I’d imagine he wouldn’t want the smoke of a lawsuit.
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Post by robtearle on May 21, 2022 21:26:41 GMT -5
(I'm not an attorney, but I did watch a few episodes of Ally McBeal." The Biscuit. Fresh bowls. The dismount. There's a weird trip down memory lane. Bygones...
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