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Post by VolleyballMag on Aug 20, 2022 14:15:21 GMT -5
We have a nice feature coming Sunday on VolleyballMag.com about Nicklin Hames.
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Post by vergyltantor on Aug 20, 2022 15:32:28 GMT -5
Is there any other college team in the universe streaming something along with us this weekend? I’m freakin starving out here Stream link AAAAAAAAH UNO 25 25 25 25
UNK 16 22 22 22
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Post by bigredtruck on Aug 20, 2022 21:46:40 GMT -5
Great! Itz over due for many schools in the B1G. I don’t know what the prep situation is like in Nebraska, but the competition here in Wisconsin is great, and interest is growing. The ‘21 boy’s state POY in Wis played on a perennial great team, at a school just a couple miles from where I live. The media deal is going to fill the coffers, and hopefully men’s volleyball gets a shot because of it. I’m up for another volleyball rivalry between UW and UN-L taking form. I don’t think there’s any prep volleyball for boys in Nebraska. I think there is in Missouri but if Nebraska added it, that would surely change virtually impossible for a school like nebraska to add a men’s sport due to Title IX. nu and almost every other school are not in compliance. there have been several great articles in ljs recently explaining the exceptions they have to claim and so forth
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Post by avid 2.0 on Aug 20, 2022 21:52:07 GMT -5
I don’t think there’s any prep volleyball for boys in Nebraska. I think there is in Missouri but if Nebraska added it, that would surely change virtually impossible for a school like nebraska to add a men’s sport due to Title IX. nu and almost every other school are not in compliance. there have been several great articles in ljs recently explaining the exceptions they have to claim and so forth Cut tennis. It's majority international students. It doesnt have the draw that men's volleyball could. Iowa and Minnesota recently cut it. I can't imagine scholarship numbers would be drastically different.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2022 21:58:42 GMT -5
virtually impossible for a school like nebraska to add a men’s sport due to Title IX. nu and almost every other school are not in compliance. there have been several great articles in ljs recently explaining the exceptions they have to claim and so forth Cut tennis. It's majority international students. It doesnt have the draw that men's volleyball could. Iowa and Minnesota recently cut it. I can't imagine scholarship numbers would be drastically different. can confirm there is prep boys vball in Missouri. Also I could have sworn I played against a Nebraska boys club team once but maybe I’m wrong
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Post by staticb on Aug 20, 2022 21:58:46 GMT -5
Hames has to be on scholarship too, right? No one is "on" NIL. We think she's pretty much only on NIL. (The numbers don't really make sense otherwise)
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Post by avid 2.0 on Aug 20, 2022 22:03:20 GMT -5
Hames has to be on scholarship too, right? No one is "on" NIL. We think she's pretty much only on NIL. (The numbers don't really make sense otherwise) I think someone said she's not. They have the numbers to have her on scholarship. (they have an open one afaik)
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Post by uofaGRAD on Aug 20, 2022 22:37:14 GMT -5
Arizona's schedule says they are... but idk if they are we did… it just didn’t work for like a set and a half😭
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Post by knapplc on Aug 20, 2022 23:14:40 GMT -5
Hold up. When did Marriah Buss transfer to UNO?
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Post by Steve vb on Aug 20, 2022 23:36:51 GMT -5
Hold up. When did Marriah Buss transfer to UNO? She transferred winter 2021 and started majority of the games last year in 2021, including their match vs. the Huskers.
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Post by bigredtruck on Aug 21, 2022 9:31:49 GMT -5
virtually impossible for a school like nebraska to add a men’s sport due to Title IX. nu and almost every other school are not in compliance. there have been several great articles in ljs recently explaining the exceptions they have to claim and so forth Cut tennis. It's majority international students. It doesnt have the draw that men's volleyball could. Iowa and Minnesota recently cut it. I can't imagine scholarship numbers would be drastically different. cutting a men’s sport to add another men’s sport wouldn’t work because the participation ratio numbers would still be skewed so you could only justify adding a women’s sport or nothing at all. title IX has been awesome in many ways. but is there such a thing as legislation without unintended consequences?
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Post by slxpress on Aug 21, 2022 9:44:53 GMT -5
Cut tennis. It's majority international students. It doesnt have the draw that men's volleyball could. Iowa and Minnesota recently cut it. I can't imagine scholarship numbers would be drastically different. cutting a men’s sport to add another men’s sport wouldn’t work because the participation ratio numbers would still be skewed so you could only justify adding a women’s sport or nothing at all. title IX has been awesome in many ways. but is there such a thing as legislation without unintended consequences? I just wish they had exempted football. I understand from an equal rights perspective that would simply perpetuate the unfair opportunities men have in collegiate athletics, but from a practical standpoint, football pays the bills, there’s not a good female equivalent in terms of numbers and resources. It skews everything. Without football there wouldn’t be the need to ax men’s sports left and right. There would also be no good rationale for not being in compliance, and so everyone could be a lot more aggressive in going after programs that still weren’t giving equal opportunities in terms of scholarships and funding to both men and women. Certainly men’s vollleyball would be bigger. But that’s water under the bridge. Nothing like that is going to be passed in my lifetime, if ever.
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Post by tedheise on Aug 21, 2022 10:07:46 GMT -5
cutting a men’s sport to add another men’s sport wouldn’t work because the participation ratio numbers would still be skewed so you could only justify adding a women’s sport or nothing at all. title IX has been awesome in many ways. but is there such a thing as legislation without unintended consequences? I just wish they had exempted football. I understand from an equal rights perspective that would simply perpetuate the unfair opportunities men have in collegiate athletics, but from a practical standpoint, football pays the bills, there’s not a good female equivalent in terms of numbers and resources. It skews everything. Without football there wouldn’t be the need to ax men’s sports left and right. There would also be no good rationale for not being in compliance, and so everyone could be a lot more aggressive in going after programs that still weren’t giving equal opportunities in terms of scholarships and funding to both men and women. Certainly men’s vollleyball would be bigger. But that’s water under the bridge. Nothing like that is going to be passed in my lifetime, if ever. You're probably right slxpress , but maybe NIL will drive football into its own niche that can be set outside of (or accounted for differently) in the Title IX considerations
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 21, 2022 11:39:18 GMT -5
cutting a men’s sport to add another men’s sport wouldn’t work because the participation ratio numbers would still be skewed so you could only justify adding a women’s sport or nothing at all. title IX has been awesome in many ways. but is there such a thing as legislation without unintended consequences? I just wish they had exempted football. I understand from an equal rights perspective that would simply perpetuate the unfair opportunities men have in collegiate athletics, but from a practical standpoint, football pays the bills, there’s not a good female equivalent in terms of numbers and resources. It skews everything. Without football there wouldn’t be the need to ax men’s sports left and right. There would also be no good rationale for not being in compliance, and so everyone could be a lot more aggressive in going after programs that still weren’t giving equal opportunities in terms of scholarships and funding to both men and women. Certainly men’s vollleyball would be bigger. But that’s water under the bridge. Nothing like that is going to be passed in my lifetime, if ever. I agree. Title 9 doesn't make things equal imo, it makes them unfair. equal scholarship for equal sports is fair imo. cause not only does title 9 prevent colleges from adding mens volleyball, when they do offer it the players get very little money because they are given about 1/3 of the scholarships the women's team has.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 21, 2022 11:42:15 GMT -5
I just wish they had exempted football. I understand from an equal rights perspective that would simply perpetuate the unfair opportunities men have in collegiate athletics, but from a practical standpoint, football pays the bills, there’s not a good female equivalent in terms of numbers and resources. It skews everything. Without football there wouldn’t be the need to ax men’s sports left and right. There would also be no good rationale for not being in compliance, and so everyone could be a lot more aggressive in going after programs that still weren’t giving equal opportunities in terms of scholarships and funding to both men and women. Certainly men’s vollleyball would be bigger. But that’s water under the bridge. Nothing like that is going to be passed in my lifetime, if ever. I agree. Title 9 doesn't make things equal imo, it makes them unfair. equal scholarship for equal sports is fair imo. cause not only does title 9 prevent colleges from adding mens volleyball, when they do offer it the players get very little money because they are given about 1/3 of the scholarships the women's team has. I'm totally with you, but it's up to a higher paygrade than you and me, and I don't see anything approaching the political will to change things. If anything, it might get more draconian, or enforcement could get a lot more active. Currently there's no real enforcement other than litigation, and it's been that way since Title IX was enacted, truth be told.
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