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Post by huskergeek on Aug 23, 2022 10:43:23 GMT -5
Interesting discussion by photos1 in B1G2022 thread on gains and losses Akana vs Hames. I'll try to paraphrase. Photos1 can correct as needed. 1) Hames > Akana on defense. Agree 2) Akana was not elite at serve receive. Hames will be targeted to test her. Agree that Hames serve receive is untested, but with her no longer having setting responsibility she will likely soon prove to be elite at serve receive. 3) Akana only slightly better server than Hames. Agree. Again with Hames no longer setting, her serving may improve. 4) NE is a better team with Orr as setter in part due to her better blocking, and Hames being an elite DS. Agree. Photos1 I hope I summarized your points accurately. Tried to copy in a screen shot but that didn't work for me. Anyway I basically agreed with your points and thought they really needed to be shared on the NE 2022 thread. Thanks. We'll see how much of it was the rotation verses how much was the serve, but Nebraska gained a more than 5 percent chance to win a point when Akana was serving verse when Hames was. That's more than slightly better.
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Post by Kingsley on Aug 23, 2022 10:51:45 GMT -5
Orr could be the best blocking setter in the country if she can position herself properly. very few setters if any are putting up blocks that big. she looks like she's touching only about 3 inches less than hord which is very impressive Her approach touch has surpassed 10 feet, giving rise to her secondary role as Orrposite.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 23, 2022 10:54:36 GMT -5
Orr could be the best blocking setter in the country if she can position herself properly. very few setters if any are putting up blocks that big. she looks like she's touching only about 3 inches less than hord which is very impressive Her approach touch has surpassed 10 feet, giving rise to her secondary role as Orrposite. Kennedi is an assassin on the block! Too soon?
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 23, 2022 11:48:49 GMT -5
Orr could be the best blocking setter in the country if she can position herself properly. very few setters if any are putting up blocks that big. she looks like she's touching only about 3 inches less than hord which is very impressive Her approach touch has surpassed 10 feet, giving rise to her secondary role as Orrposite. she was nasty from the left side on her highchool team. would be really cool if she and Rodriguez can successfully continue this through the season. I like how fast it was, it wasnt a usual out of system set to the right side and opened the seam that Orr hit it through
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Post by vollectator on Aug 23, 2022 12:16:27 GMT -5
Interesting discussion by photos1 in B1G2022 thread on gains and losses Akana vs Hames. I'll try to paraphrase. Photos1 can correct as needed. 1) Hames > Akana on defense. Agree 2) Akana was not elite at serve receive. Hames will be targeted to test her. Agree that Hames serve receive is untested, but with her no longer having setting responsibility she will likely soon prove to be elite at serve receive. 3) Akana only slightly better server than Hames. Agree. Again with Hames no longer setting, her serving may improve. 4) NE is a better team with Orr as setter in part due to her better blocking, and Hames being an elite DS. Agree. Photos1 I hope I summarized your points accurately. Tried to copy in a screen shot but that didn't work for me. Anyway I basically agreed with your points and thought they really needed to be shared on the NE 2022 thread. Thanks. whether Hames is a better DS than Akana, i think, is to be determined.
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Post by bwf3 on Aug 23, 2022 12:16:51 GMT -5
Interesting discussion by photos1 in B1G2022 thread on gains and losses Akana vs Hames. I'll try to paraphrase. Photos1 can correct as needed. 1) Hames > Akana on defense. Agree 2) Akana was not elite at serve receive. Hames will be targeted to test her. Agree that Hames serve receive is untested, but with her no longer having setting responsibility she will likely soon prove to be elite at serve receive. 3) Akana only slightly better server than Hames. Agree. Again with Hames no longer setting, her serving may improve. 4) NE is a better team with Orr as setter in part due to her better blocking, and Hames being an elite DS. Agree. Photos1 I hope I summarized your points accurately. Tried to copy in a screen shot but that didn't work for me. Anyway I basically agreed with your points and thought they really needed to be shared on the NE 2022 thread. Thanks. photos1 is clueless. Akana's good pass percentage (58.2%) was the same as Rodriguez and better than Knuckles. Hames will continue to serve. Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Akana led the team (min. 50 attempts) in both points scored % (51.6%) and opponent good pass % (39.3%) on her serve. Orr served 18 balls last year. 0 aces, 4 errors, 5/18 points won for a 27.8% point score %. Will she replace Akana's 51.6% scoring rate? When Kaitlyn Hord was in the portal photos1 posted "[Schwartzenbach] is a great teammate who has started in a national championship match. . . Neither can be said of Hord." His opinion of Akana is equally accurate.
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 23, 2022 12:30:51 GMT -5
Interesting discussion by photos1 in B1G2022 thread on gains and losses Akana vs Hames. I'll try to paraphrase. Photos1 can correct as needed. 1) Hames > Akana on defense. Agree 2) Akana was not elite at serve receive. Hames will be targeted to test her. Agree that Hames serve receive is untested, but with her no longer having setting responsibility she will likely soon prove to be elite at serve receive. 3) Akana only slightly better server than Hames. Agree. Again with Hames no longer setting, her serving may improve. 4) NE is a better team with Orr as setter in part due to her better blocking, and Hames being an elite DS. Agree. Photos1 I hope I summarized your points accurately. Tried to copy in a screen shot but that didn't work for me. Anyway I basically agreed with your points and thought they really needed to be shared on the NE 2022 thread. Thanks. photos1 is clueless. Akana's good pass percentage (58.2%) was the same as Rodriguez and better than Knuckles. Hames will continue to serve. Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Akana led the team (min. 50 attempts) in both points scored % (51.6%) and opponent good pass % (39.3%) on her serve. Orr served 18 balls last year. 0 aces, 4 errors, 5/18 points won for a 27.8% point score %. Will she replace Akana's 51.6% scoring rate? When Kaitlyn Hord was in the portal photos1 posted "[Schwartzenbach] is a great teammate who has started in a national championship match. . . Neither can be said of Hord." His opinion of Akana is equally accurate. Photos is indeed clueless, but why would you say that Orr is trying to replace Akana's serve? Points scored isn't just about the serve, it's about the rotation you're in and what the defense/transition offense options look like. Kennedi is going to be serving in the rotation that Nicklin was and Nicklin is going to be serving in the rotation Akana was. It doesn't make sense to me to say Kennedi should be aiming for Akana's production off her serve. Additionally, there are collective improvements that can be made as well to other players' serves like Rodriguez to offset the loss.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 23, 2022 12:43:19 GMT -5
Interesting discussion by photos1 in B1G2022 thread on gains and losses Akana vs Hames. I'll try to paraphrase. Photos1 can correct as needed. 1) Hames > Akana on defense. Agree 2) Akana was not elite at serve receive. Hames will be targeted to test her. Agree that Hames serve receive is untested, but with her no longer having setting responsibility she will likely soon prove to be elite at serve receive. 3) Akana only slightly better server than Hames. Agree. Again with Hames no longer setting, her serving may improve. 4) NE is a better team with Orr as setter in part due to her better blocking, and Hames being an elite DS. Agree. Photos1 I hope I summarized your points accurately. Tried to copy in a screen shot but that didn't work for me. Anyway I basically agreed with your points and thought they really needed to be shared on the NE 2022 thread. Thanks. photos1 is clueless. Akana's good pass percentage (58.2%) was the same as Rodriguez and better than Knuckles. Hames will continue to serve. Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Akana led the team (min. 50 attempts) in both points scored % (51.6%) and opponent good pass % (39.3%) on her serve. Orr served 18 balls last year. 0 aces, 4 errors, 5/18 points won for a 27.8% point score %. Will she replace Akana's 51.6% scoring rate? When Kaitlyn Hord was in the portal photos1 posted "[Schwartzenbach] is a great teammate who has started in a national championship match. . . Neither can be said of Hord." His opinion of Akana is equally accurate. So Nebraska scored 51.6% of the time Akana served? Daaaang.
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Post by bwf3 on Aug 23, 2022 12:45:25 GMT -5
photos1 is clueless. Akana's good pass percentage (58.2%) was the same as Rodriguez and better than Knuckles. Hames will continue to serve. Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Akana led the team (min. 50 attempts) in both points scored % (51.6%) and opponent good pass % (39.3%) on her serve. Orr served 18 balls last year. 0 aces, 4 errors, 5/18 points won for a 27.8% point score %. Will she replace Akana's 51.6% scoring rate? When Kaitlyn Hord was in the portal photos1 posted "[Schwartzenbach] is a great teammate who has started in a national championship match. . . Neither can be said of Hord." His opinion of Akana is equally accurate. Photos is indeed clueless, but why would you say that Orr is trying to replace Akana's serve? Points scored isn't just about the serve, it's about the rotation you're in and what the defense/transition offense options look like. Kennedi is going to be serving in the rotation that Nicklin was and Nicklin is going to be serving in the rotation Akana was. It doesn't make sense to me to say Kennedi should be aiming for Akana's serve. Additionally, there are collective improvements that can be made as well to other players' serves like Rodriguez to offset the loss. Hames is still one of the 6 servers. Akana is not. I said Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Not the serve in Ro-4. The serve is not the only factor in the point scoring % - but it is a factor. It IS the only factor in the opponent good pass %. Akana led the team holding opponents to 39.3% good pass. That is why I included both numbers. So that posters like you can draw your own conclusions. My general point (and I think you agree) is that even a quick look at the stats shows Akana was a great server and a good passer/defender last season. Replacing her production will be important.
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 23, 2022 12:45:58 GMT -5
photos1 is clueless. Akana's good pass percentage (58.2%) was the same as Rodriguez and better than Knuckles. Hames will continue to serve. Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Akana led the team (min. 50 attempts) in both points scored % (51.6%) and opponent good pass % (39.3%) on her serve. Orr served 18 balls last year. 0 aces, 4 errors, 5/18 points won for a 27.8% point score %. Will she replace Akana's 51.6% scoring rate? When Kaitlyn Hord was in the portal photos1 posted "[Schwartzenbach] is a great teammate who has started in a national championship match. . . Neither can be said of Hord." His opinion of Akana is equally accurate. So Nebraska scored 51.6% of the time Akana served? Daaaang. Yep. But that also happened to be the rotation you had: Rodriguez, Knuckles, Akana in the backrow. Not to diminish Akana's serve, it was obviously super effective and anybody who watched the matches would know that. But there's context to everything and Nebraska's best defensive lineup being together for that serving rotation might also have something to do with them losing less points
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Post by slxpress on Aug 23, 2022 12:48:40 GMT -5
So Nebraska scored 51.6% of the time Akana served? Daaaang. Yep. But that also happened to be the rotation you had: Rodriguez, Knuckles, Akana in the backrow. Not to diminish Akana's serve, it was obviously super effective and anybody who watched the matches would know that. But there's context to everything and Nebraska's best defensive lineup being together for that serving rotation might also have something to do with them losing less points Absolutely. It's still impressive regardless of the reasons. I wasn't giving Akana all the credit even if I didn't state it out loud. Good points.
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 23, 2022 12:54:22 GMT -5
Photos is indeed clueless, but why would you say that Orr is trying to replace Akana's serve? Points scored isn't just about the serve, it's about the rotation you're in and what the defense/transition offense options look like. Kennedi is going to be serving in the rotation that Nicklin was and Nicklin is going to be serving in the rotation Akana was. It doesn't make sense to me to say Kennedi should be aiming for Akana's serve. Additionally, there are collective improvements that can be made as well to other players' serves like Rodriguez to offset the loss. Hames is still one of the 6 servers. Akana is not. I said Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Not the serve in Ro-4. The serve is not the only factor in the point scoring % - but it is a factor. It IS the only factor in the opponent good pass %. That is why I included both numbers. So that posters like you can draw your own conclusions. My general point (and I think you agree) is that even a quick look at the stats shows Akana was a great server and a good passer/defender last season. Replacing her production will be important. I would never take anybody seriously who suggests that losing Akana's serve isn't a blow. Of course it is. My point is that it isn't as simple as saying oh well Kennedi is the new server so she has to match what Akana did. There are a bunch of other factors in play. Even beyond rotational considerations, you can look at blocking and say well maybe she won't serve as well but she also very likely will be more of a blocking presence than Nicklin for *three* serving rotations. That alone could make up a lot of ground in a points scored differential. Not to mention other blocking upgrades (cough Hord).
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Post by bwf3 on Aug 23, 2022 12:57:01 GMT -5
Hames is still one of the 6 servers. Akana is not. I said Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Not the serve in Ro-4. The serve is not the only factor in the point scoring % - but it is a factor. It IS the only factor in the opponent good pass %. That is why I included both numbers. So that posters like you can draw your own conclusions. My general point (and I think you agree) is that even a quick look at the stats shows Akana was a great server and a good passer/defender last season. Replacing her production will be important. I would never take anybody seriously who suggests that losing Akana's serve isn't a blow. Of course it is. My point is that it isn't as simple as saying oh well Kennedi is the new server so she has to match what Akana did. There are a bunch of other factors in play. Even beyond rotational considerations, you can look at blocking and say well maybe she won't serve as well but she also very likely will be more of a blocking presence than Nicklin for *three* serving rotations. That alone could make up a lot of ground in a points scored differential. Not to mention other blocking upgrades (cough Hord). Hord is a bad teammate. photos1 knows. No upgrade.
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Post by jwvolley on Aug 23, 2022 12:58:31 GMT -5
I would never take anybody seriously who suggests that losing Akana's serve isn't a blow. Of course it is. My point is that it isn't as simple as saying oh well Kennedi is the new server so she has to match what Akana did. There are a bunch of other factors in play. Even beyond rotational considerations, you can look at blocking and say well maybe she won't serve as well but she also very likely will be more of a blocking presence than Nicklin for *three* serving rotations. That alone could make up a lot of ground in a points scored differential. Not to mention other blocking upgrades (cough Hord). Hord is a bad teammate. photos1 knows. No upgrade. Haha. I don't claim him!
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 23, 2022 13:02:02 GMT -5
Interesting discussion by photos1 in B1G2022 thread on gains and losses Akana vs Hames. I'll try to paraphrase. Photos1 can correct as needed. 1) Hames > Akana on defense. Agree 2) Akana was not elite at serve receive. Hames will be targeted to test her. Agree that Hames serve receive is untested, but with her no longer having setting responsibility she will likely soon prove to be elite at serve receive. 3) Akana only slightly better server than Hames. Agree. Again with Hames no longer setting, her serving may improve. 4) NE is a better team with Orr as setter in part due to her better blocking, and Hames being an elite DS. Agree. Photos1 I hope I summarized your points accurately. Tried to copy in a screen shot but that didn't work for me. Anyway I basically agreed with your points and thought they really needed to be shared on the NE 2022 thread. Thanks. photos1 is clueless. Akana's good pass percentage (58.2%) was the same as Rodriguez and better than Knuckles. Hames will continue to serve. Orr will try to replace Akana's serve. Akana led the team (min. 50 attempts) in both points scored % (51.6%) and opponent good pass % (39.3%) on her serve. Orr served 18 balls last year. 0 aces, 4 errors, 5/18 points won for a 27.8% point score %. Will she replace Akana's 51.6% scoring rate? When Kaitlyn Hord was in the portal photos1 posted "[Schwartzenbach] is a great teammate who has started in a national championship match. . . Neither can be said of Hord." His opinion of Akana is equally accurate. Wait, Akana's good pass percentage was that high? Wow. She's an even bigger loss for Nebraska (and gain for Texas) than I first thought.
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