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Post by staticb on Sept 1, 2022 22:13:30 GMT -5
This is not good. Cook is loathe to go to the 6-2 unless he feels its his only option. I'd rather see them ride Orr though some early-season bumps. You run the risk of killing her confidence and running her off with this crap. We assumed that one of Lauenstein, Batenhorst, Krause was going to be the odd woman out and likely not get playing time and maybe even transfer. What if the best lineup on the floor is with Orr being the odd woman out? I'm ok with him asking the question and finding out. With the portal, you can't even think about too bar into the future, you need to win now.
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Post by vollectator on Sept 1, 2022 22:21:45 GMT -5
Orr did not come with the label “5-1 only”. Something happened.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 1, 2022 22:24:12 GMT -5
Wait they ran a 6-2? Seems like they weren’t successful with evans if so as hames had nearly triple the assist.
Also lol at anyone who thought cook wouldn’t let hames set.
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Post by stanfordvb on Sept 1, 2022 22:28:46 GMT -5
it could be a random reason that none of us know. the most telling will be what happens next match. if Orr is still not on the floor then something is up, and I think its the wrong decision if that's actually what's happening
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Post by stanfordvb on Sept 1, 2022 22:35:48 GMT -5
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Post by azsker on Sept 2, 2022 0:57:46 GMT -5
it could be a random reason that none of us know. the most telling will be what happens next match. if Orr is still not on the floor then something is up, and I think its the wrong decision if that's actually what's happening I think you’re looking way too much in to it. Cook does this. He flips lineups to see how they respond. It’s how he treats the non conference. Last year at Stanford he started all freshmen on the pins and Batenhorst played 6 rotations. We all knew that wasn’t going to happen-but he gives them their shot. I wouldn’t think too much in to the 6-2 tonight..
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Post by staticb on Sept 2, 2022 2:39:22 GMT -5
Wait they ran a 6-2? Seems like they weren’t successful with evans if so as hames had nearly triple the assist. Also lol at anyone who thought cook wouldn’t let hames set. I did think Hames set better tonight but Hames had more assists because she started setting and the average vball game lasts 2.5 rotations so she just got more reps.
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Post by rjaege on Sept 2, 2022 4:39:35 GMT -5
True! That's why they give out rings! NOPE. No rings? Then why do they have a B12 championship?
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Post by rjaege on Sept 2, 2022 4:50:33 GMT -5
With respect to Orr not playing in the 6-2:
It indicates Orr is the 3rd best setter from the back row. Considering serving, serve receive/passing and defense, that seems true to me.
It may take some pressure off Orr. Provide some space for her to regroup and re-evaluate. I think a lot depends on how the coaches prefaced this to her and the team.
It definitely seemed to benefit, Ally, Whitney and Madi, Lindsay not so much.
Will we see this again? Who knows...
Edit: Corrected Maggie to now read Madi. Thank you donaldjamesparker.
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Post by donaldjamesparker on Sept 2, 2022 5:23:42 GMT -5
I think you meant benefitted Madi not Maggie? I don't think Maggie got into the action last night.
There is much gnashing of teeth over this situation and I understand that perfectly. For years we have been awaiting the Kennedi Orr era. After all, she was the poster child for the "Dream Team." In my 72 years on planet Earth, I've seen a lot of highly touted recruits that never made their big splash in the collegiate world. And big name college stars that never made it in the pros. The possibility exists that Kennedi will never become the starting setter for the Huskers. Next year Bergen Reilly will be arriving on the scene. There's no guarantee she will have the right stuff either, but you have to consider that at some point John Cook might decide that Reilly is the best hope for the future and he's going to ride Nicklin this year to hopefully get them to another final four. One has to wonder after Cook just stated publicly (and probably multiple times) that it was time for Kennedi to take the reins and then she rides the pine for the whole match last night. Perhaps there's an injury involved here (again). If not - I have to conjecture even further. Aren't these non conference matches the perfect opportunity to build confidence and experience without putting the team at risk of a loss? If she doesn't play in a match like last night and it's not injury related, I have to ponder that her long term future at Nebraska might be in doubt. I hate to say it, but we can't avoid reality by refusing to see it.
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Post by bigredtruck on Sept 2, 2022 6:02:36 GMT -5
Wait they ran a 6-2? Seems like they weren’t successful with evans if so as hames had nearly triple the assist. Also lol at anyone who thought cook wouldn’t let hames set. I did think Hames set better tonight but Hames had more assists because she started setting and the average vball game lasts 2.5 rotations so she just got more reps. i suppose it’s natural, but what bothered me was all the “Anni did great!” talk in the pressers. when the stats and the eye test don’t back that up. she had all the same ‘consistency’ issues as coach has no problem attributing to Orr’s game. Her connection with the middles was non existent. the stats don’t specifically list what hitting percentage a setter was responsible for but the math shows it probably wasn’t nearly as good as Hames. i guess someone will/has reviewed and figured it out
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Post by rjaege on Sept 2, 2022 6:05:12 GMT -5
I think you meant benefitted Madi not Maggie? I don't think Maggie got into the action last night. There is much gnashing of teeth over this situation and I understand that perfectly. For years we have been awaiting the Kennedi Orr era. After all, she was the poster child for the "Dream Team." In my 72 years on planet Earth, I've seen a lot of highly touted recruits that never made their big splash in the collegiate world. And big name college stars that never made it in the pros. The possibility exists that Kennedi will never become the starting setter for the Huskers. Next year Bergen Reilly will be arriving on the scene. There's no guarantee she will have the right stuff either, but you have to consider that at some point John Cook might decide that Reilly is the best hope for the future and he's going to ride Nicklin this year to hopefully get them to another final four. One has to wonder after Cook just stated publicly (and probably multiple times) that it was time for Kennedi to take the reins and then she rides the pine for the whole match last night. Perhaps there's an injury involved here (again). If not - I have to conjecture even further. Aren't these non conference matches the perfect opportunity to build confidence and experience without putting the team at risk of a loss? If she doesn't play in a match like last night and it's not injury related, I have to ponder that her long term future at Nebraska might be in doubt. I hate to say it, but we can't avoid reality by refusing to see it. Well stated and thank you for noting my error. Correction made. I think there maybe another factor not previouly mentioned. IMO Evans might be the best setter of the 3, but her height makes her liabilty in the front row. She reminds me of Kelly Hunter, not flashy, but effective. Exhibits calming leadership on the court. Interesting observation I just realized. In her after the game interview, Ally said they had been working on their out-of-system play. Saw some of that, highlighted by Lindsay setting Ally for a kill. I believe Whitney and Kenzie had a very effective set too. Could the 6-2 be a way to emphasize that?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Sept 2, 2022 6:29:58 GMT -5
This is interesting, a 6/2 does get Allie on the court. The only concern for me is the quality of the defense and for the last few years that has been our bread and butter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2022 6:37:55 GMT -5
Orr out here wondering when the first day she can enter the portal is lmaooo
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 2, 2022 7:24:17 GMT -5
it could be a random reason that none of us know. the most telling will be what happens next match. if Orr is still not on the floor then something is up, and I think its the wrong decision if that's actually what's happening What are you seeing in practice that leads you to believe it’s the wrong decision?
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