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Post by huskerpower28 on Sept 14, 2022 8:21:51 GMT -5
I feel like people have unrealistic expectations/amnesia sometimes. Hames has been a very solid setter for Nebraska. No, she's not Carlini or Poulter, but you can find plenty of matches of SSS, Lilley, in particular Hilley, and Hunter where they have been inconsistent in their play and location and even their own fans on volleytalk have complained. Hames has had inconsistent matches just like some of the setters mentioned here, but overall she's high quality, and is easily one of the best zone 1 defenders among this setting group. If anything, Nebraska just hasn't had the big time elite pin hitters like some of these other programs have had to bail them out and make the setters job easier. Since Foecke, who could swing at anything (and she got a myriad of different sets throughout her career), the closest thing Nebraska has had is Kubik, and she's been rather up and down. It’s sad and frustrating that a 5th year senior still can’t consistently set Hord, a 3-time All-American. In my opinion last night the sets were pretty dang good to Hord and she choose to keep on tipping and throwing the ball. There was quite a few times she could of pounded the ball and choose to push the ball instead and those balls she could of hit for sure. I also dont think its all the setters fault either. A 5th year middle should be able to adjust as well. It goes both ways if you ask me.
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Post by bugeater on Sept 14, 2022 8:22:24 GMT -5
I feel like people have unrealistic expectations/amnesia sometimes. Hames has been a very solid setter for Nebraska. No, she's not Carlini or Poulter, but you can find plenty of matches of SSS, Lilley, in particular Hilley, and Hunter where they have been inconsistent in their play and location and even their own fans on volleytalk have complained. Hames has had inconsistent matches just like some of the setters mentioned here, but overall she's high quality, and is easily one of the best zone 1 defenders among this setting group. If anything, Nebraska just hasn't had the big time elite pin hitters like some of these other programs have had to bail them out and make the setters job easier. Since Foecke, who could swing at anything (and she got a myriad of different sets throughout her career), the closest thing Nebraska has had is Kubik, and she's been rather up and down. I've been as critical of Hames as anybody on this board. But the reality is she's a great defender, a great leader, and a good setter. And has been to the finals twice. When talking about Nebraska setting the other thing to remember was that Hunter in her senior season (2017), was on Nebraska's best passing team, at least in recent memory. Don't know if the stats will back me up on that, but the eye test certainly did. Townsend, Albrecht, and Maloney passed dimes consistently, particularly in the Final Four. Nebraska doesn't have passing approaching that level in the current group. Why do people keep on saying that “Hames has been to the finals twice?” First of all, it’s not like she got there by herself. Secondly, it’s entirely possible that her weakness/limitations kept the team from winning in those finals. Yes, she’s a good defender. But she’s undersized which is a liability at the net. And it’s also pretty clear that her setting is subpar.
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Post by dodger on Sept 14, 2022 8:22:58 GMT -5
JC grumpy delivery and shade thrown coach! Dont tell me honest! You can deliver bad news and inspire: take some heat yourself! WTH you have no idea what happened to your setter! She’s given you her life effort for 5 years and the best you can do is say “idont know she was cryin’ and missin’ sers and couldnt go? I was busy figuren out line ups and what to do!! You dont have plans for that!!! You havent coached long enough to adjust and adopt while also showing concern for an injured player!! This was beyond poor! And whst about you JC : where’s your responsibility in all this?? They they they: i dont remember one me me me ! We told them run more middle but they went away from it? Wth?? You dont practice game plan setting?? If they dont set the scheme we have a training problem with the coaching staff! I watch WKU run there scheme: why cant you run yours?? And his daughter on radio shades away with dad! Dude get a grip and move on!!! You are telling wrong individual to get a grip! Wishing the Husker playees and faithful well!
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Post by bugeater on Sept 14, 2022 8:34:11 GMT -5
I will be shocked if cook sticks with the 6-2. At first I was excited about the 6-2 but last night I noticed so many moving parts and thought it was difficult for Nebraska to have steady momentum. I think the 6-2 worked for a while because 1) of the competition, 2) having 2 setters helped to hide the weakness/flaws of going with 1 inconsistent setter, 3) Evans was playing lights out but she has come back down to earth, 4) you need 3-4 good pins in a 6-2 and we don’t have that on a consistent basis…Kubik and Lauenstein are reliable but Krause, Batenhorst and Mendelson are not. Hayden looked to be a better hitter than Mendelson but I guess Cook is going with Mendelson for her size/defense…which would work if we can rely on our middles for more offense but we can’t set our middles to save our lives.
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Post by bugeater on Sept 14, 2022 8:46:42 GMT -5
Everyone acts like the world is coming to an end. Nebraska will be just fine at the end of the season. If Hames is truly hurt I see us riding out a 5-1 with Orr the rest of the season. Krause has just been very slow to start these last few games. It seems when our back is against the wall she starts making more of the right hits compared to when we just out there playing. Coach needs to get her to play smart from the get go and forget about the 10ft line banger balls. Being at the game last night you could tell Knuckles was in her head with the serving and pass receiving just by the look on her face. Last night was just an all around sloppy game for both sides if you ask me. The serve and hit errors was crazy. No one could hardly get any momentum going because of it. On the positive note when the Huskers had it going. It was crazy crazy loud in there. My ears were going nuts. I know a loss sucks but I still enjoy watching them. They deff have the potential to be very good when we go back to a 5-1. And I cant say it loud enough give Hayden Kubik her shot one time like everyone else. I like her. If losing in the finals is your definition of “fine,” then we may be. I think Krause has regressed from last season. She hits into blocks and relies on ineffective roll shots too much. She’s like the new Lexi Sun. Play was definitely sloppy on both sides last night. But with Stanford gifting us as many service error points as they did…and on our home court no less…it’s sad that we still found a way to lose the match. I agree with you on Hayden…less height/defense than Mendelson but more offense and court awareness.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2022 8:50:00 GMT -5
Oh geez, your people are as dramatic as the Kardashians on fashion week. It’s the first of the season, and Stanford played incredible. Let’s not overdramatize everything into the sky is falling in Henny Penny‘s ready to commit suicide. John Cook always figures it out, year after year you people bitch and complain and year after year he has a team ready for the tournament. They have some things to figure out just like they did last year. I must have missed the part where Stanford played incredible. They played awful. Nebraska was just worse
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Post by nellynel on Sept 14, 2022 8:54:21 GMT -5
Oh geez, your people are as dramatic as the Kardashians on fashion week. It’s the first of the season, and Stanford played incredible. Let’s not overdramatize everything into the sky is falling in Henny Penny‘s ready to commit suicide. John Cook always figures it out, year after year you people bitch and complain and year after year he has a team ready for the tournament. They have some things to figure out just like they did last year. I must have missed the part where Stanford played incredible. They played awful. Nebraska was just worse Let me complete that sentence for you Holiday, ‘and Stanford played incredibly bad.’ Lol
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Post by bugeater on Sept 14, 2022 8:56:26 GMT -5
It’s sad and frustrating that a 5th year senior still can’t consistently set Hord, a 3-time All-American. In my opinion last night the sets were pretty dang good to Hord and she choose to keep on tipping and throwing the ball. There was quite a few times she could of pounded the ball and choose to push the ball instead and those balls she could of hit for sure. I also dont think its all the setters fault either. A 5th year middle should be able to adjust as well. It goes both ways if you ask me. You thought those sets to Hord last night were dang good? IMO, a good set is sufficiently high to allow the hitter to fully extend their arm and hit the ball at its peak to avoid getting blocked. Hames’ sets were so low that our middles had to simply “push” the ball forward to clear the net…with no velocity. So what should be an easy terminal spike turns into playable ball for Stanford. Hames is also very predictable with her setting, she nearly always sets forward or in front of her…the defense can key off on this. There’s very little creativity or misdirection in her play.
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Post by lotstodo2023 on Sept 14, 2022 9:04:27 GMT -5
Orr's face broke my heart a couple times. I keep forgetting she was basically off the court for 2 years of competitive play which is brutal for a setter. I hope she can work through the mental side with support and the physical side will come with her confidence.
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Post by bugeater on Sept 14, 2022 9:13:39 GMT -5
Boy, just watched the Cook press conference. Looks to me like Orr is really in his doghouse. He glosses over the poor setting by Hames and Evans while emphasizing it with Orr, a player who hasn’t played in multiple games and had to come in cold in the third set without the benefit of warming up.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Sept 14, 2022 9:26:30 GMT -5
Oh geez, your people are as dramatic as the Kardashians on fashion week. It’s the first of the season, and Stanford played incredible. Let’s not overdramatize everything into the sky is falling in Henny Penny‘s ready to commit suicide. John Cook always figures it out, year after year you people bitch and complain and year after year he has a team ready for the tournament. They have some things to figure out just like they did last year. I must have missed the part where Stanford played incredible. They played awful. Nebraska was just worse They missed serves, they didn’t play horrible. In fact Stanford fans should be quite pleased.
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Post by vbjustice on Sept 14, 2022 9:39:08 GMT -5
Orr's face broke my heart a couple times. I keep forgetting she was basically off the court for 2 years of competitive play which is brutal for a setter. I hope she can work through the mental side with support and the physical side will come with her confidence. same. Hope she can work through it.
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Post by vbjustice on Sept 14, 2022 9:40:31 GMT -5
Boy, just watched the Cook press conference. Looks to me like Orr is really in his doghouse. He glosses over the poor setting by Hames and Evans while emphasizing it with Orr, a player who hasn’t played in multiple games and had to come in cold in the third set without the benefit of warming up. yup it was very clear a few weeks back when he said she’s playing like a freshman. She may want to consider her options for next year where she can play more freely. I’m not sure his style is helping her.
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Post by mma40027002 on Sept 14, 2022 9:47:35 GMT -5
Boy, just watched the Cook press conference. Looks to me like Orr is really in his doghouse. He glosses over the poor setting by Hames and Evans while emphasizing it with Orr, a player who hasn’t played in multiple games and had to come in cold in the third set without the benefit of warming up. I agree. Setting is a skill that you have to continue to nurture, both physically and mentally. If you play in one match early on and then get benched for several matches, only to get thrown in during the middle of a big match, you're most likely going in flustered, unprepared, and cold, not to mention her confidence is probably in the basement right now. She is so worried that she'll make a mistake that, of course, she is going to make a mistake. If Hames' injury is something that will keep her off the court for a while, I do wonder what the heck the team will do. I wish he had let Orr work through some of the issues she was having early on and if she still wasn't getting it by now, then hand the keys back to Hames. Nebraska does seem to figure it out eventually and then peek at the right time, but the issues this year seem a little more apparent. Re: the sets to Hord, she is so long and contacts so high and the setters seem to be "trying" to run a quicker ball to her, which makes her have to attack with her elbow in her ribs. She definitely needs a higher ball. She, too, may be worried when attacking because when she does get a good ball, she still seems to be tipping most of the time. I'd love to see her more engaged and with some chemistry with at least one of the setters! That would open things up for the pins, too.
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Post by sherisalivingforthis on Sept 14, 2022 9:49:07 GMT -5
Yeah. There was a moment during a late timeout where you could easily read her mindset. And the Cook started in on her, and she was like "yeah, what"
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