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Post by Kingsley on Sept 18, 2022 18:17:36 GMT -5
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Post by volleyfan4321 on Sept 18, 2022 18:57:22 GMT -5
Nice match by Big Red today. GBR!
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Post by big10+4 fan on Sept 18, 2022 19:50:34 GMT -5
I have a question and I wish to not be belittled about it lmao.....regarding any 6-2 other than the obvious problem that would occur if you ran out of subs, what would be the difference between having your setters sub for your RS and having them sub for your middles? Like I said, if you ran out of subs it's a problem but other than that is there any big difference?
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Post by FreeBall on Sept 18, 2022 20:07:41 GMT -5
I have a question and I wish to not be belittled about it lmao.....regarding any 6-2 other than the obvious problem that would occur if you ran out of subs, what would be the difference between having your setters sub for your RS and having them sub for your middles? Like I said, if you ran out of subs it's a problem but other than that is there any big difference? Interestingly, in 2005 Nebraska ran a 6-2 with the setters subbing for the middles. They also had four players (Pavan, Larson, Houghtelling and Saleaumua) who played 6 rotations, so they hardly used a libero that year. Only occasionally, as sort of a serving "sub", as I recall. I think the biggest difference is in serve receive patterns and possibly the serving order. I'd be interested to hear what others have to say about your question.
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Post by jwvolley on Sept 18, 2022 20:10:47 GMT -5
I have a question and I wish to not be belittled about it lmao.....regarding any 6-2 other than the obvious problem that would occur if you ran out of subs, what would be the difference between having your setters sub for your RS and having them sub for your middles? Like I said, if you ran out of subs it's a problem but other than that is there any big difference? Yeah the running out of subs would present a problem in that you’d be without a middle on the floor. I imagine this system could benefit a team if like certain setters are better at connecting with certain middles. Like if you wanted Orr playing always with Hord for example because Anni won’t set her Lolol. The libero would sub for the right sides (if you’re playing with one, Nebraska 05 didn’t). I think there are one or two rotations where this would have the serve receive lineup less than ideal in terms of transitioning to the attackers, like they’d be not in their natural positions. Im curious if it’s done in club more often, club ball is weird lol.
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Post by big10+4 fan on Sept 18, 2022 20:18:26 GMT -5
I have a question and I wish to not be belittled about it lmao.....regarding any 6-2 other than the obvious problem that would occur if you ran out of subs, what would be the difference between having your setters sub for your RS and having them sub for your middles? Like I said, if you ran out of subs it's a problem but other than that is there any big difference? Yeah the running out of subs would present a problem in that you’d be without a middle on the floor. I imagine this system could benefit a team if like certain setters are better at connecting with certain middles. Like if you wanted Orr playing always with Hord for example because Anni won’t set her Lolol. The libero would sub for the right sides (if you’re playing with one, Nebraska 05 didn’t). I think there are one or two rotations where this would have the serve receive lineup less than ideal in terms of transitioning to the attackers, like they’d be not in their natural positions. Im curious if it’s done in club more often, club ball is weird lol. The same setter for same middle aspect is highly appealing, only to have the running out of subs problem looming over it lmao
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Post by FreeBall on Sept 18, 2022 20:40:20 GMT -5
Yeah the running out of subs would present a problem in that you’d be without a middle on the floor. I imagine this system could benefit a team if like certain setters are better at connecting with certain middles. Like if you wanted Orr playing always with Hord for example because Anni won’t set her Lolol. The libero would sub for the right sides (if you’re playing with one, Nebraska 05 didn’t). I think there are one or two rotations where this would have the serve receive lineup less than ideal in terms of transitioning to the attackers, like they’d be not in their natural positions. Im curious if it’s done in club more often, club ball is weird lol. The same setter for same middle aspect is highly appealing, only to have the running out of subs problem looming over it lmao I'm not sure 2005 Nebraska ever ran out of subs (or what they did if that situation arose). I also don't remember what the sub limit was in that era, but sets (games) were played to 30 back then, so maybe the sub limit was higher. With the only substitutions being the setters for the middles, they would have been using two subs every three rotations. Even if the sub limit was only 12 in that era, they would have been able to go pretty deep into each set with that rate of substitutions.
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Post by big10+4 fan on Sept 18, 2022 20:42:21 GMT -5
The same setter for same middle aspect is highly appealing, only to have the running out of subs problem looming over it lmao I'm not sure 2005 Nebraska ever ran out of subs (or what they did if that situation arose). I also don't remember what the sub limit was in that era, but sets (games) were played to 30 back then, so maybe the sub limit was higher. With the only substitutions being the setters for the middles, they would have been using two subs every three rotations. Even if the sub limit was only 12 in that era, they would have been able to go pretty deep into each set with that rate of substitutions. All 4 of the pins played all the way around so no ds subs.
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Post by knapplc on Sept 18, 2022 21:51:26 GMT -5
As you all know, the fairer sex is often susceptible to hysterics. Because science. I appreciate the irony.
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Post by Longhorn20 on Sept 18, 2022 21:55:34 GMT -5
I have a question and I wish to not be belittled about it lmao.....regarding any 6-2 other than the obvious problem that would occur if you ran out of subs, what would be the difference between having your setters sub for your RS and having them sub for your middles? Like I said, if you ran out of subs it's a problem but other than that is there any big difference? Yeah the running out of subs would present a problem in that you’d be without a middle on the floor. I imagine this system could benefit a team if like certain setters are better at connecting with certain middles. Like if you wanted Orr playing always with Hord for example because Anni won’t set her Lolol. The libero would sub for the right sides (if you’re playing with one, Nebraska 05 didn’t). I think there are one or two rotations where this would have the serve receive lineup less than ideal in terms of transitioning to the attackers, like they’d be not in their natural positions. Im curious if it’s done in club more often, club ball is weird lol. TAV almost exclusively does this with a lot of their teams
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Post by FreeBall on Sept 19, 2022 7:52:39 GMT -5
I pulled this over from another thread since the discussion fits better here. I think Cook eventually goes to a 5-1 and probably has Nicklin running the show if Orr is still in her head. Bench Mendelson, pin trio of Kubik/Lauenstein (who is a much needed terminal hitter)/Krause, Hord gets more involved in a 5-1 playing M1, and I think you have a really lethal team. I think they're most likely to win the B1G at this point considering how well they've done with so much inconsistency from the setter spot. Cook gets that figured out and I think they start to roll. Assuming Nebraska goes to a 5-1 later in the season, I'm thinking Allick would be a better fit at M1. She seems much more comfortable (as compared to Hord) running the slide and is also able to attack nicely in front of the setter. With Hord at M2 her middle attacking would draw attention from the defense and help open up both pins for more one on one attacking opportunities in those rotations. I know Hord was playing M1 at the start of the season when Nebraska was in a 5-1, but I'm wondering if moving her to M2 would be a good tactical move?
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Post by scarletandcream on Sept 19, 2022 8:38:36 GMT -5
I pulled this over from another thread since the discussion fits better here. I think Cook eventually goes to a 5-1 and probably has Nicklin running the show if Orr is still in her head. Bench Mendelson, pin trio of Kubik/Lauenstein (who is a much needed terminal hitter)/Krause, Hord gets more involved in a 5-1 playing M1, and I think you have a really lethal team. I think they're most likely to win the B1G at this point considering how well they've done with so much inconsistency from the setter spot. Cook gets that figured out and I think they start to roll. Assuming Nebraska goes to a 5-1 later in the season, I'm thinking Allick would be a better fit at M1. She seems much more comfortable (as compared to Hord) running the slide and is also able to attack nicely in front of the setter. With Hord at M2 her middle attacking would draw attention from the defense and help open up both pins for more one on one attacking opportunities in those rotations. I know Hord was playing M1 at the start of the season when Nebraska was in a 5-1, but I'm wondering if moving her to M2 would be a good tactical move? Interesting. Allick seems much easier to set (maybe can adjust better) so I can see that as a smart move. I haven’t ever seen Hord on the slide, so I can’t say much about that.
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Post by Kingsley on Sept 19, 2022 8:57:58 GMT -5
Allick was actually the M1 in the 5-1.
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Post by mma40027002 on Sept 19, 2022 9:54:47 GMT -5
I agree with Allick being front row with the setter in the 5-1. She runs a good slide. I would really love to see Kennedi get a shot at running the show. Her placement isn't perfect and her defense is meh, but I also don't know if she has had enough opportunities to really get comfortable. If Hames is out, I would love to see a 5-1 again with Orr. I won't hold my breath. I have never met her in my life so it isn't personal, I just want to see her succeed, and I want her to get the opportunity to really show what she can do.
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Post by knapplc on Sept 19, 2022 9:57:21 GMT -5
Do we know the specifics on Hames' injury?
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