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Post by bkedane on Aug 9, 2022 17:50:57 GMT -5
I read a madison.com excerpt today from the book by D Punzel about Wisconsin volleyball.
He talks about the candidates for the job when Sheffield was hired. His list of candidates is not accurate, nor is his description of what led to Sheffield eventually being offered the job. This is strange. Many people know who the candidates were. Many people know who else was offered the job and why they declined.
This all worked out very well for Wisconsin and for Sheffield. I don't see any reason to tell the fictional history in this article (and apparently in the book).
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Post by slxpress on Aug 9, 2022 20:58:34 GMT -5
I read a madison.com excerpt today from the book by D Punzel about Wisconsin volleyball. He talks about the candidates for the job when Sheffield was hired. His list of candidates is not accurate, nor is his description of what led to Sheffield eventually being offered the job. This is strange. Many people know who the candidates were. Many people know who else was offered the job and why they declined. This all worked out very well for Wisconsin and for Sheffield. I don't see any reason to tell the fictional history in this article (and apparently in the book). The simplest answer is this is how Sheffield wants the story to be told. You don’t write a book about the history of Wisconsin volleyball to be released right after the program’s first national championship, without being careful about what the current head coach who won that championship thinks about its contents. And once it’s in a book like that, it will then be cited and become canon, regardless of what actually transpired. If it really bothers you I would consider at least making a post comparing what was in the excerpt compared to what you know is the reality. It may or may not have any impact, but without it there may not be any counter narrative.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 9, 2022 21:15:40 GMT -5
I have heard things on VT that didn’t jive with what’s in the book. But, I also frankly don’t know what really happened in its entirety, so I can’t speculate as to what is different or why. I imagine that’s true for a lot of people on here.
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Post by vbnerd on Aug 9, 2022 21:45:04 GMT -5
I read a madison.com excerpt today from the book by D Punzel about Wisconsin volleyball. He talks about the candidates for the job when Sheffield was hired. His list of candidates is not accurate, nor is his description of what led to Sheffield eventually being offered the job. This is strange. Many people know who the candidates were. Many people know who else was offered the job and why they declined. This all worked out very well for Wisconsin and for Sheffield. I don't see any reason to tell the fictional history in this article (and apparently in the book). "Many people know who the candidates were" and yet when you talk to some of those candidates (I haven't talked to them all) they deny ever talking to Wisconsin, and Wisconsin denies ever talking to them, but in volleytalk we trust.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 10, 2022 10:45:52 GMT -5
Day two of taking attendance, much the same as day one. No GG, and either Wrobel or Crawford not there that I can see (not sure who's in the red shirt in the near court; maybe Wrobel, because it's a serve-receie drill?). Gregorski clearly visible.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 10, 2022 10:59:45 GMT -5
Left - serve: Hart, Hammill, Smrek, McCaa, Ashburn Left - receive: Gregorski, Bramschreiber, MacDonald
Right - serve: Robinson, Demps, Boyer, Reed Right - receive: Franklin, Orzol, Wrobel
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Aug 10, 2022 13:35:52 GMT -5
Left - serve: Hart, Hammill, Smrek, McCaa, Ashburn Left - receive: Gregorski, Bramschweiger, MacDonald Right - serve: Robinson, Demps, Boyer, Reed Right - receive: Franklin, Orzol, Wrobel Did you mean Bramschreiber? Or perhaps they have a new meat pate offering at the Field House?: "Hi. I'll have a Shanel Braunschweiger Sandwich, please!"
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Aug 10, 2022 13:38:45 GMT -5
I read a madison.com excerpt today from the book by D Punzel about Wisconsin volleyball. He talks about the candidates for the job when Sheffield was hired. His list of candidates is not accurate, nor is his description of what led to Sheffield eventually being offered the job. This is strange. Many people know who the candidates were. Many people know who else was offered the job and why they declined. This all worked out very well for Wisconsin and for Sheffield. I don't see any reason to tell the fictional history in this article (and apparently in the book). The simplest answer is this is how Sheffield wants the story to be told. You don’t write a book about the history of Wisconsin volleyball to be released right after the program’s first national championship, without being careful about what the current head coach who won that championship thinks about its contents. And once it’s in a book like that, it will then be cited and become canon, regardless of what actually transpired. If it really bothers you I would consider at least making a post comparing what was in the excerpt compared to what you know is the reality. It may or may not have any impact, but without it there may not be any counter narrative. Hmm. I'd be in favor of having the true account archived here, please.
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Post by robtearle on Aug 10, 2022 13:41:07 GMT -5
A series of tweets from Punzel. mostly good, some not so much: 1. Sarah Franklin is crazy good. Might just be best OH in the country. Power, range, touch, passing ability and big serve. Closest comp for me is Mikaela Foecke of Neb, and Franklin's name is easier to spell. 2. Julia Orzol combined with Franklin gives badgervb an elite OH combo. Orzol looks fully healthy and is back hitting topspin serve. 3. Setter situation is fluid, but I'd guess that they end up going with 6-2 with @izzyashburn2 and @mjhamm5 sharing duties. Competition is close and 6-2 gives opportunity to play an extra hitter. 4. It may be a couple days or so before libero Gulce Guktekin arrives from Turkey as she works through visa/passport issues. Should be interesting battle for that spot 5. Baylor transfer libero Shanel Bramschreiber is practicing but has yet to gain clearance to play. Issue revolves around having had an agent to check out pro possibilities. Stay tuned. 6. Danielle Hart is looking strong as she comes back from torn ACL. Had a hit in practice this morning that led @kellypsheffield to pause practice in recognition. She says she's feeling progressively better. 7. The depth of pin hitters is unprecedented in Sheffield era. @ellawrobell, @jade_Demps15 and @lizgregorski would be a good base for many teams, but they'll be battling for playing time. Gregorski healthy and has her hops.
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Post by Kingsley on Aug 10, 2022 13:56:16 GMT -5
So Madden really did report Shanel
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 10, 2022 14:28:47 GMT -5
Left - serve: Hart, Hammill, Smrek, McCaa, Ashburn Left - receive: Gregorski, Bramschweiger, MacDonald Right - serve: Robinson, Demps, Boyer, Reed Right - receive: Franklin, Orzol, Wrobel Did you mean Bramschreiber? Or perhaps they have a new meat pate offering at the Field House?: "Hi. I'll have a Shanel Braunschweiger Sandwich, please!" I was going to make a German food joke, but you beat me to it!!
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 10, 2022 14:44:24 GMT -5
So Madden really did report Shanel I think Madden was talking mostly about GG actually. Anyway, I imagine it was always going to come under scrutiny. I’m just a little surprised the NCAA is taking so long to make a decision. Regardless of the rules, I’m personally not sure, in this age of NIL, why simply having an agent should lead an athlete to be disqualified. If they don’t take the pro option is the argument that they became impure just for thinking about it? It’s an odd definition of amateur.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 10, 2022 14:57:10 GMT -5
Left - serve: Hart, Hammill, Smrek, McCaa, Ashburn Left - receive: Gregorski, Bramschweiger, MacDonald Right - serve: Robinson, Demps, Boyer, Reed Right - receive: Franklin, Orzol, Wrobel Did you mean Bramschreiber? Or perhaps they have a new meat pate offering at the Field House?: "Hi. I'll have a Shanel Braunschweiger Sandwich, please!" Oh my god. You know you're from Wisconsin if...
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Post by Kingsley on Aug 10, 2022 15:00:47 GMT -5
So Madden really did report Shanel I think Madden was talking mostly about GG actually. Anyway, I imagine it was always going to come under scrutiny. I’m just a little surprised the NCAA is taking so long to make a decision. Regardless of the rules, I’m personally not sure, in this age of NIL, why simply having an agent should lead an athlete to be disqualified. If they don’t take the pro option is the argument that they became impure just for thinking about it? It’s an odd definition of amateur. Oh yeah, I remember that now. And I’m so used to the agent discussion being in the context of declaring for the NBA Draft. Can’t really think of a volleyball precedent, but that’s just what the extra year of eligibility has done for us. New circumstances for the NCAA to consider on their notoriously slow timetable.
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Aug 10, 2022 15:07:02 GMT -5
The simplest answer is this is how Sheffield wants the story to be told. You don’t write a book about the history of Wisconsin volleyball to be released right after the program’s first national championship, without being careful about what the current head coach who won that championship thinks about its contents. And once it’s in a book like that, it will then be cited and become canon, regardless of what actually transpired. If it really bothers you I would consider at least making a post comparing what was in the excerpt compared to what you know is the reality. It may or may not have any impact, but without it there may not be any counter narrative. Hmm. I'd be in favor of having the true account archived here, please.
Me too (instead of how the resident making-mountains-out-of-molehills-specialist seems to think )!
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