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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 20:34:02 GMT -5
Someone suggested we wouldn't be very good in a 5-1 with our personnel and our passing woes. No way we are a not very good team in running the 5-1 with our personnel. Boyer and Demps ( and Shanel when available) add a ton to our backrow prowess in a 5-1 they don't really see the backrow in a 6-2. Currently the 6-2 configuration puts alot of pressure on our overall performance as we simply don't have the inclination of putting some of our best defenders back there in the 6-2. Also, how are we practicing the 6-2? To Maximize improvement we should be playing in practice against 2 setters in a 6-2 configuration. Is this assistant coaches with setting experience? Volunteer setter from the men's club team? Practice isn't full six vs six scrimmaging all the time. You can put Izzy's hitters on the floor and practice her rotations with MJ either doing nothing or playing back-right defense. Then reverse it, practice MJ's hitters and rotations with Izzy on the other side of the court. I know this but they need to be able to go full six on six to replicate a true regular season game environment. They can get in aspects as you stated of course.
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Post by buckypete on Sept 1, 2022 20:37:45 GMT -5
Someone suggested we wouldn't be very good in a 5-1 with our personnel and our passing woes. No way we are a not very good team in running the 5-1 with our personnel. Boyer and Demps ( and Shanel when available) add a ton to our backrow prowess in a 5-1 they don't really see the backrow in a 6-2. Currently the 6-2 configuration puts alot of pressure on our overall performance as we simply don't have the inclination of putting some of our best defenders back there in the 6-2. Also, how are we practicing the 6-2? To Maximize improvement we should be playing in practice against 2 setters in a 6-2 configuration. Is this assistant coaches with setting experience? Volunteer setter from the men's club team? I think the one element people are overlooking is that Shanel is not available and Boyer seems to be out as well. If you can't DS the way you'd like might as well give the 6-2 some time to percolate. It's not like there's a bionic hero like Civita sitting back there to assist right now.
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Post by SportyBucky on Sept 1, 2022 20:39:36 GMT -5
Watching Nebraska - LMU match right now. Huskers are running a 6-2 with Hames and Anni Evans. Both setters putting up safe, hittable balls. Middles hitting for kills in front of the setters. Nebraska is not flashy, but those good connections are very effective and efficient for the Huskers. Nice to have at least one seasoned veteran setter, regardless of the system employed. Just think itz interesting given the Badger experience to start this season. No Orr?!? 😳
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 20:41:58 GMT -5
Someone suggested we wouldn't be very good in a 5-1 with our personnel and our passing woes. No way we are a not very good team in running the 5-1 with our personnel. Boyer and Demps ( and Shanel when available) add a ton to our backrow prowess in a 5-1 they don't really see the backrow in a 6-2. Currently the 6-2 configuration puts alot of pressure on our overall performance as we simply don't have the inclination of putting some of our best defenders back there in the 6-2. Also, how are we practicing the 6-2? To Maximize improvement we should be playing in practice against 2 setters in a 6-2 configuration. Is this assistant coaches with setting experience? Volunteer setter from the men's club team? I think the one element people are overlooking is that Shanel is not available and Boyer seems to be out as well. If you can't DS the way you'd like might as well give the 6-2 some time to percolate. It's not like there's a bionic hero like Civita sitting back there to assist right now. We don't know how long Boyer is out do we. What is the injury? Maybe she is back this weekend?
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Post by Wiswell on Sept 1, 2022 20:42:20 GMT -5
A match at American Family field is just.... stupid.
That's not to expand the audience, that's just for attendance. And by "attendance" I question how many watch. They aren't watching baseball when they are there, and how could you see?
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Post by robtearle on Sept 1, 2022 20:43:56 GMT -5
Practice isn't full six vs six scrimmaging all the time. You can put Izzy's hitters on the floor and practice her rotations with MJ either doing nothing or playing back-right defense. Then reverse it, practice MJ's hitters and rotations with Izzy on the other side of the court. I know this but they need to be able to go full six on six to replicate a true regular season game environment. They can get in aspects as you stated of course. Why are you only able to "go full six on six" with the "other" setter standing on the sideline but not on the other side of the net? When MJ rotates out of the lineup, she goes to the other side of the net and plays on the other six. Etc etc.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 20:44:23 GMT -5
A match at American Family field is just.... stupid. That's not to expand the audience, that's just for attendance. And by "attendance" I question how many watch. They aren't watching baseball when they are there, and how could you see? It would only be held there if Nebraska breaks an attendance record outdoors. I'm not for it but could also see it happening in certain circumstances.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 20:46:17 GMT -5
I know this but they need to be able to go full six on six to replicate a true regular season game environment. They can get in aspects as you stated of course. Why are you only able to "go full six on six" with the "other" setter standing on the sideline but not on the other side of the net? When MJ rotates out of the lineup, she goes to the other side of the net and plays on the other six. Etc etc. They should be keeping the scenario to as close as game scenario as possible. You cannot replicate that with Izzy and MJ setting against each other a portion of the time. What you suggested is fine practice. In additiin to that I also believe they would benefit moreso with keeping a game sequence inline with a practice match with substitutions to mimic just as they would in an actual game. Thus having 2nd team with two individuals with good setting ability.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 1, 2022 20:48:31 GMT -5
A match at American Family field is just.... stupid. That's not to expand the audience, that's just for attendance. And by "attendance" I question how many watch. They aren't watching baseball when they are there, and how could you see? I agree that it's stupid. A VB court in the KC is going to hard to see for many, much harder than in the Field House, AmFam will be all the worse. But VB at AmFam is no more stupid than basketball at AmFam, and they're doing going to do that.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 1, 2022 20:51:29 GMT -5
Why are you only able to "go full six on six" with the "other" setter standing on the sideline but not on the other side of the net? When MJ rotates out of the lineup, she goes to the other side of the net and plays on the other six. Etc etc. They should be keeping the scenario to as close as game scenario as possible. You cannot replicate that with Izzy and MJ setting against each other a portion of the time. Can't you say the same for their opposites? Smrek and Demps should spend half the time standing around during the 6 vs 6? Not to mention the "other" middle for whichever rotation you're in. You run out of players pretty quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 20:59:58 GMT -5
They should be keeping the scenario to as close as game scenario as possible. You cannot replicate that with Izzy and MJ setting against each other a portion of the time. Can't you say the same for their opposites? Smrek and Demps should spend half the time standing around during the 6 vs 6? The main consideration is getting the 'A' group ready for ultimate success. To simulate a match is to help build on court chemistry and continuity. To keep the experience as close to game experience is optimal. They can also run the drills as you stated.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 1, 2022 21:05:02 GMT -5
Can't you say the same for their opposites? Smrek and Demps should spend half the time standing around during the 6 vs 6? The main consideration is getting the 'A' group ready for ultimate success. To simulate a match is to help build on court chemistry and continuity. To keep the experience as close to game experience is optimal. They can also run the drills as you stated. The can practice the rotation 1 A group against a group lining up the rotation 4 B team. They can practice a rotation 2 A team against a group lining up as the rotation 5 B team.Etc etc etc. Teams generally have 16 or 17 players on the roster. They generally have 9 or even 10 on their A team. The math doesn't work, does it. (Nebraska has 14 on their roster.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 21:12:10 GMT -5
The main consideration is getting the 'A' group ready for ultimate success. To simulate a match is to help build on court chemistry and continuity. To keep the experience as close to game experience is optimal. They can also run the drills as you stated. The can practice the rotation 1 A group against a group lining up the rotation 4 B team. They can practice a rotation 2 A team against a group lining up as the rotation 5 B team.Etc etc etc. Teams generally have 16 or 17 players on the roster. They generally have 9 or even 10 on their A team. The math doesn't work, does it. Who is the 5b team? Did we play 8 in the average set in Fort Worth? All that is needed is a couple practice players to fill out needed numbers to simulate actual 6-2 game. Once again , we are focusing on the 'A' team and their cohesion and improvement and simulating a 6-2 game would be instructive.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 1, 2022 21:24:47 GMT -5
The can practice the rotation 1 A group against a group lining up the rotation 4 B team. They can practice a rotation 2 A team against a group lining up as the rotation 5 B team.Etc etc etc. Teams generally have 16 or 17 players on the roster. They generally have 9 or even 10 on their A team. The math doesn't work, does it. Who is the 5b team? Did we play 8 in the average set in Forth Worth? All that is needed is a couple practice players to fill out needed numbers to simulate actual 6-2 game. Once again , we are focusing on the 'A' team and their cohesion and improvement and simulating a 6-2 game would be instructive. They can practice with the six players who would be on the floor during "rotation 2" - Izzy, Craford, Smrek - against a group who would be off the floor during "rotation 2" but on the floor together during "rotation 5" - MJ, Devyn, Demps. You are essentially practicing both halves of the 6-2 at the same time, albeit without the "A team" lefts. "Rotation 1" vs "rotation 4". "rotation 2" vs "rotation 5", "rotation 3" vs "rotation 6". The normal "A team" lineup during a given set at TCU consisted of two setters, their two right side opposites, two middles and the libero, and two lefts. Nine players total.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2022 21:45:31 GMT -5
Who is the 5b team? Did we play 8 in the average set in Forth Worth? All that is needed is a couple practice players to fill out needed numbers to simulate actual 6-2 game. Once again , we are focusing on the 'A' team and their cohesion and improvement and simulating a 6-2 game would be instructive. They can practice with the six players who would be on the floor during "rotation 2" - Izzy, Craford, Smrek - against a group who would be off the floor during "rotation 2" but on the floor together during "rotation 5" - MJ, Devyn, Demps. You are essentially practicing both halves of the 6-2 at the same time, albeit without the "A team" lefts. "Rotation 1" vs "rotation 4". "rotation 2" vs "rotation 5", "rotation 3" vs "rotation 6". The normal "A team" lineup during a given set at TCU consisted of two setters, their two right side opposites, two middles and the libero, and two lefts. Nine players total. But having the lefts in with the rotations as it would be in an actual game is ideal. We can no doubt provide the personnel to simulate a 6-2 game with the focus being on the A team so opposing team runs a 5-1. Our B team in the practice game would run a 5-1 with Gabby middle, Hart or Crawford middle, Gregorski OH Shenal Libero, Right Side Wrobel or Demps, and setter is either assistant coach, men's club,etc. Running a 6-2 Hammill, Izzy, Robinson, Crawford or Hart , Smrek, Demps or Wrobel, Franklin, Orzol, and Gutekin. MacDonald, Reed, and Boyer ( if healthy) are practicing serves off to the side. We would need a few bigs for substitutions on team B. They had a few stand ins during scrimmage we can do the same here as well.
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