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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 9, 2022 21:36:26 GMT -5
Interesting thoughts. There are certainly various options to choose. I'm not sure how effective Shanel's serve is, but I think I'd initially like to see her serve for franklin, improve the defense and serve receive, effectively giving franklin a break from the backrow on a couple of the 'trips'. I'd give up the Liz for Crawford servicing sub willingly since it doesn't move the needle much at the cost of two subs. The numbers also say you can argue that Franklin should be the one to be subbed out for serving anyway. She can get on a roll, but too many end up in the net. I also don't worry about the demps for Smrek sub at the end as much as others. Demps would theoretically give you better defense and another hitting option across the back. However, either one would be hidden in serve receive anyway and there would already be a backrow hitting option with franklin/orzol. Regarding Shanel vs GG, i guess it is a matter of how much better Shanel is in serve receive and how well does she take the 2nd ball(I assume it won't be as good as GG). You have to do the Demps for Smrek sub at the end. The badgers would still have three passers in Orzol, Franklin and GG in every rotation if they moved to a 5-1 with no subs. Demps is good defensively and can hit really well out of the backrow. She can also pass in pinch. You want her instead of Smrek if they have to play around in a 5-1. As for subs, last year the badgers subbed Demps/Smrek, Loberg/Civita, Ashburn/Rettke each time around. In 2019 they subbed Ashburn/Duello, Dodge/Loberg, Barnes/Haggerty. A 6-2 system in which they sub Ashburn/Robinson, Hammill/Smrek, Franklin/Bramschreiber would not be unusual historically. They do need to plan on a rotation they prefer to get stuck in if they run out of subs. Whether they actually want to do that is a different question. Franklin can be amazing. She thinks quickly, she takes chances, she often makes them work. She hits out of the backrow. But sometimes she is reckless and lacking in discipline. If you error into the net or hit into the middle of the block or hit long repeatedly, what is the point of the defensive advantage of the 6-2? She needs to learn that getting the other team OOS can be a good thing when you have a big presence at the net (presuming the badgers learn to block OOS swings better). Bramschreiber/GG as DS might allow them to stay in system more, play better floor D, and transition more effectively with only three hitting options. I am waiting for one of the setters to try the standing setter dump Hilley could pull off so effectively. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Oct 9, 2022 23:14:43 GMT -5
Interesting thoughts. There are certainly various options to choose. I'm not sure how effective Shanel's serve is, but I think I'd initially like to see her serve for franklin, improve the defense and serve receive, effectively giving franklin a break from the backrow on a couple of the 'trips'. I'd give up the Liz for Crawford servicing sub willingly since it doesn't move the needle much at the cost of two subs. The numbers also say you can argue that Franklin should be the one to be subbed out for serving anyway. She can get on a roll, but too many end up in the net. I also don't worry about the demps for Smrek sub at the end as much as others. Demps would theoretically give you better defense and another hitting option across the back. However, either one would be hidden in serve receive anyway and there would already be a backrow hitting option with franklin/orzol. Regarding Shanel vs GG, i guess it is a matter of how much better Shanel is in serve receive and how well does she take the 2nd ball(I assume it won't be as good as GG). There's no question that GG's accuracy, whether it be free ball first contact or second ball bump sets, is elite. If I was an opponent I would never send a free ball over anywhere in the vicinity of GG - I bet that UW hits over .500, maybe even higher, on free balls where GG gets first contact. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2022 5:36:10 GMT -5
That’s a nice win over Purdue. What players stuck out to everybody, for me it was GG & her defense. Smrek. We need her playing at that kind of level if we are to have a realistic chance of repeating at champions this season. |
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Post by bonetalks on Oct 10, 2022 11:56:21 GMT -5
Quick question, with bramschreiber coming back is she gonna be starting right away? if so what does this mean for GG? i’m assuming serving sub or ds for whichever outside can’t pass.
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Post by robtearle on Oct 10, 2022 12:11:23 GMT -5
Quick question, with bramschreiber coming back is she gonna be starting right away? if so what does this mean for GG? i’m assuming serving sub or ds for whichever outside can’t pass. My guess is GG has 'won' the libero spot, if for no other reason than - as tablealgebra points out - her bump sets; and that then Bramschreirber becomes a regular DS for Franklin, at least until you start to run short of subs in a back-and-forth set. Yes, you are trading Franklin's backrow attacking for presumably Bramschrieber's better serve receive and floor defense, etc. But it is, of course, a guess. (And, unfortunately, Gregorski's turns at serving go away, due to serving sub count limits.) |
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Post by Del Bocavista on Oct 10, 2022 12:13:41 GMT -5
Read above, thats the question. My take is GG is staying at the L. Then do you prefer Shanel and better defense and passing, or Franklin and a back row attack option for Franklins back row rotations. I think most Badger fans are wishing for Frankin to cut down her errors, and maybe getting to rest a bit might help her focus better when in.
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Post by bonetalks on Oct 10, 2022 12:17:46 GMT -5
So i’m guessing it’s whether sheffield values offense of defense more in certain rotations. And I like crawford serving, I remember at KU she had a great serve what happened to that?
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Post by robtearle on Oct 10, 2022 12:33:16 GMT -5
So i’m guessing it’s whether sheffield values offense of defense more in certain rotations. And I like crawford serving, I remember at KU she had a great serve what happened to that? The sideout percent with Crawford serving against 'quality opponents' this year so far is 60%, which is average to a bit better than average, though not quite as good as Gregorski's has been, at 56.3%. She's had some very good serving matches - TCU, Marquette, Florida, Northwestern. If she has to be a more regular server, she'll do fine. |
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Post by pull3 on Oct 10, 2022 12:33:55 GMT -5
I too think Shanel will take Franklin's spot, with a slight chance of wearing the libero Jersey in set 3 when Badgers leading 2-0 and Sheffield thinking Iowa is a no match to them.
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Post by bonetalks on Oct 10, 2022 12:39:03 GMT -5
So i’m guessing it’s whether sheffield values offense of defense more in certain rotations. And I like crawford serving, I remember at KU she had a great serve what happened to that? The sideout percent with Crawford serving against 'quality opponents' this year so far is 60%, which is average to a bit better than average, though not quite as good as Gregorski's has been, at 56.3%. She's had some very good serving matches - TCU, Marquette, Florida, Northwestern. If she has to be a more regular server, she'll do fine. Makes sense I guess we’ll see what happens with everything during these next two matches! |
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Post by badgerguru on Oct 10, 2022 12:43:34 GMT -5
That’s a nice win over Purdue. What players stuck out to everybody, for me it was GG & her defense. Smrek. We need her playing at that kind of level if we are to have a realistic chance of repeating at champions this season. I agree, Smrek performing well plays a huge role in this team’s success. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Oct 10, 2022 13:08:54 GMT -5
Birthday girl!
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Post by rainbowbadger on Oct 10, 2022 14:50:22 GMT -5
Big Ten honors for the birthday girl!
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Post by savannahbadger on Oct 10, 2022 16:03:33 GMT -5
I don’t think anything is going to be set in stone with where Shanel fits in. She might sub in for GG at L if a match seems out of hand, she might be a serving sub for someone, and/or she might be a backrow D/S if someone is in need of a break. It wouldn’t surprise me if the use of subs changes from set to set.
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Post by Wiswell on Oct 10, 2022 19:07:51 GMT -5
If it ain't broke don't fix it. Since GG is playing well lately why on earth would you take her out? I'd guess Shanel for Franklin as well.
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