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Post by wahinefan on Sept 5, 2022 3:30:27 GMT -5
The 5 set loss vs UCLA makes me wonder who will be coming back for 2023. The frustrating losses are too much, RAM knows it I feel like Riley has gotten her chances it’s time for new faces. Also tiff been moved around a lot I don’t see her making much more of an impact. I guess Akana will stay and I hope Amber, if she does transfer I’ll be following whatever team she plays on cuz I think she’s an amazing player and love watching her energy but I feel like she’ll close her career as a wahine Who would those new faces be, talking this season only? Robyn really does not have anyone on the bench to turn to. All Robyn needs her setters to do is quite setting Riley so much. Riley should only be set 15 to 20 times per match, to be effective. I will be shocked if any player on this year's Wahine team decides to transfer after this season is over. This team is tight, to a player. They all know what kind of team the Wahine will be next season. Especially, if the player(s) who have verbally committed, eventually sign their NLI to play for the Wahine.
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Post by rainbowcard on Sept 5, 2022 3:35:25 GMT -5
I feel like Riley has gotten her chances it’s time for new faces. Also tiff been moved around a lot I don’t see her making much more of an impact. I guess Akana will stay and I hope Amber, if she does transfer I’ll be following whatever team she plays on cuz I think she’s an amazing player and love watching her energy but I feel like she’ll close her career as a wahine Who would those new faces be, talking this season only? Robyn really does not have anyone on the bench to turn to. All Robyn needs her setters to do is quite setting Riley so much. Riley should only be set 15 to 20 times per match, to be effective. I will be shocked if any player on this year's Wahine team decides to transfer after this season is over. This team is tight, to a player. They all know what kind of team the Wahine will be next season. Especially, if the player(s) who have verbally committed, eventually sign their NLI to play for the Wahine. the original poster said 2023, so I was speaking of the “new faces” next season and not Riley as a starter then.
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Post by raian13 on Sept 5, 2022 3:40:21 GMT -5
On the upside, Alexander with 18 kills (1 more than Luper) against UCLA is keeping my hopes alive with the OH situation.
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Post by wahinefan on Sept 5, 2022 3:43:32 GMT -5
Who would those new faces be, talking this season only? Robyn really does not have anyone on the bench to turn to. All Robyn needs her setters to do is quite setting Riley so much. Riley should only be set 15 to 20 times per match, to be effective. I will be shocked if any player on this year's Wahine team decides to transfer after this season is over. This team is tight, to a player. They all know what kind of team the Wahine will be next season. Especially, if the player(s) who have verbally committed, eventually sign their NLI to play for the Wahine. the original poster said 2023, so I was speaking of the “new faces” next season and not Riley as a starter then. Sorry, misunderstood, then. If Riley does not work extremely hard from now, until then, I can definitely see that occurring. Riley needs to work on her consistency, match to match, set to set, not be up and down. She has to find that happy middle ground. Also, the setters need to cut down setting her so much, which leads to her inconsistency. She is a natural OH2, as long as she is not set to much.
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Post by wahinefan on Sept 5, 2022 3:49:15 GMT -5
People on VT who are already calling for Robyn's neck are way out of bounds. Yes, the majority of these players are Juniors, but people need to remember these players all missed one full season of play, conditioning, weight room, not to mention practice time, due to Covid. So these players are still young, by playing standards.
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Post by wahinefan on Sept 5, 2022 3:54:57 GMT -5
The one good thing going in the Wahine favor is that this is a down year for the BWC. More so, then last season. I can see the Wahine dominating the BWC, this season. Do not see any BWC team stopping Tiffany Westerberg, Caylen Alexander, and especially Amber Igiede. These 3 players will carry the Wahine to another BWC Title.
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 5, 2022 4:06:24 GMT -5
Also this is the first season that any of these pins are being asked to be the go to player and have game changing match contributions.
I was hoping to see a game like this out of Akana because you can tell she’s a competitor but 11 errors from Riley on the exact same amount of swings that Caylen took is simply not ok. She looked great against Texas A&M , she’s capable but games like this almost prove that it’s a mental thing for her, she has to be a better player than this, I mean damn girl you’re the only one on the team that had an entire other season in the sand.
Maybe it really is time to bench her or keep her as a DS until she Can prove she Can be consistent but then it doesn’t look like Cowell is good enough as a defender or passer to trust in that other spot, which is honestly surprising to me.
Bright spots are Caylen keeps getting better, I think Ikenaga is going to keep improving as well, she’s been mostly steady.
I think about what was lost from last season and I almost feel like Robyn might have let some of the girls who transferred know that she has a lot more confidence in Alexander’s game than theirs.
And to be honest, Caylen is a major upgrade from Johnson, Leoniak, and Demirtas. Even with all of them back, I think she still beats out every one of them.
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Post by wahinefan on Sept 5, 2022 4:17:30 GMT -5
What I have witnessed so far this season, Robyn does not really have bench players to turn to this year. There is a BIG drop off from the players Starting, to the ones on the bench. For instance, Annika De Goede, is a situational server at best, at the moment. Mylana Byrd is nowhere close to Kate Lang setting wise. Not to mention passing, receiving, and blocking also. Finally, Chandler Cowell, is not even close to Riley Wagoner, offensively, or even defensively, even when Riley is having an off night. The one player, that can help Robyn, depth wise is Kennedi Evans. If, or even when, Kennedi Evans gets activated. That will allow Robyn to move Tiffany Westerberg to Opposite and allow Braelyn Akana to become the backup player for all 3 positions, Outside Hitter, Middle, and Opposite.
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Post by kamikaze49 on Sept 5, 2022 4:20:46 GMT -5
Serve receive, and passing, needs to get much better as it puts Riley in bad position, as she’s relied on for most of the out of system hits. Alexander is coming along, but too soon to rely on her as the first option.
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Post by wahinefan on Sept 5, 2022 4:25:40 GMT -5
Also this is the first season that any of these pins are being asked to be the go to player and have game changing match contributions. I was hoping to see a game like this out of Akana because you can tell she’s a competitor but 11 errors from Riley on the exact same amount of swings that Caylen took is simply not ok. She looked great against Texas A&M , she’s capable but games like this almost prove that it’s a mental thing for her, she has to be a better player than this, I mean damn girl you’re the only one on the team that had an entire other season in the sand. Maybe it really is time to bench her or keep her as a DS until she Can prove she Can be consistent but then it doesn’t look like Cowell is good enough as a defender or passer to trust in that other spot, which is honestly surprising to me. Bright spots are Caylen keeps getting better, I think Ikenaga is going to keep improving as well, she’s been mostly steady. I think about what was lost from last season and I almost feel like Robyn might have let some of the girls who transferred know that she has a lot more confidence in Alexander’s game than theirs. And to be honest, Caylen is a major upgrade from Johnson, Leoniak, and Demirtas. Even with all of them back, I think she still beats out every one of them. I agree, Caylen is a major upgrade, and she would be starting over all 3 of them. The problem with Riley is that she is getting way to many sets. She should only be getting about 15 to 20 sets, or less, per match, to be effective, and consistent. Riley is NOT an OH1, never will be, that so called 'GOTO' player. She is just a good all around player, at best.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 5, 2022 4:29:11 GMT -5
Also this is the first season that any of these pins are being asked to be the go to player and have game changing match contributions. I was hoping to see a game like this out of Akana because you can tell she’s a competitor but 11 errors from Riley on the exact same amount of swings that Caylen took is simply not ok. She looked great against Texas A&M , she’s capable but games like this almost prove that it’s a mental thing for her, she has to be a better player than this, I mean damn girl you’re the only one on the team that had an entire other season in the sand. Maybe it really is time to bench her or keep her as a DS until she Can prove she Can be consistent but then it doesn’t look like Cowell is good enough as a defender or passer to trust in that other spot, which is honestly surprising to me. Bright spots are Caylen keeps getting better, I think Ikenaga is going to keep improving as well, she’s been mostly steady. I think about what was lost from last season and I almost feel like Robyn might have let some of the girls who transferred know that she has a lot more confidence in Alexander’s game than theirs. And to be honest, Caylen is a major upgrade from Johnson, Leoniak, and Demirtas. Even with all of them back, I think she still beats out every one of them. I agree, Caylen is a major upgrade, and she would be starting over all 3 of them. The problem with Riley is that she is getting way to many sets. She should only be getting about 15 to 20 sets, or less, per match, to be effective, and consistent. Riley is NOT an OH1, never will be, that so called 'GOTO' player. She is just a good all around player, at best. Half her sets are OOS sets. If Hawaii passed better, the offense would be more spread out but it seemed like a good deal of passes was to the 10 ft line or outside of it. Hawaii’s passing leaves much to be desired.
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Post by wahinefan on Sept 5, 2022 4:31:33 GMT -5
Serve receive, and passing, needs to get much better as it puts Riley in bad position, as she’s relied on for most of the out of system hits. Alexander is coming along, but too soon to rely on her as the first option. Riley is not an 'out of system' player, will never be. She is a good all around player. She cannot be the 'first option' on out of system sets. That will only lead to Riley hitting for a very low percentage. Alexander, like it or not, needs to be the 'out of system' hitter, that 'GOTO' player on the Outside, not Riley Wagoner.
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Post by babybacksets on Sept 5, 2022 4:33:47 GMT -5
Also this is the first season that any of these pins are being asked to be the go to player and have game changing match contributions. I was hoping to see a game like this out of Akana because you can tell she’s a competitor but 11 errors from Riley on the exact same amount of swings that Caylen took is simply not ok. She looked great against Texas A&M , she’s capable but games like this almost prove that it’s a mental thing for her, she has to be a better player than this, I mean damn girl you’re the only one on the team that had an entire other season in the sand. Maybe it really is time to bench her or keep her as a DS until she Can prove she Can be consistent but then it doesn’t look like Cowell is good enough as a defender or passer to trust in that other spot, which is honestly surprising to me. Bright spots are Caylen keeps getting better, I think Ikenaga is going to keep improving as well, she’s been mostly steady. I think about what was lost from last season and I almost feel like Robyn might have let some of the girls who transferred know that she has a lot more confidence in Alexander’s game than theirs. And to be honest, Caylen is a major upgrade from Johnson, Leoniak, and Demirtas. Even with all of them back, I think she still beats out every one of them. I agree, Caylen is a major upgrade, and she would be starting over all 3 of them. The problem with Riley is that she is getting way to many sets. She should only be getting about 15 to 20 sets, or less, per match, to be effective, and consistent. Riley is NOT an OH1, never will be, that so called 'GOTO' player. She is just a good all around player, at best. It’s not really about the amount of sets she gets, it’s about what she does with them. The OH1 and the OH2 are interchangeable as far who could get more sets, just depends on how any given rotation matches up against an opponent’s servers. And anyway, Riley IS the OH2, don’t think she has ever been slotted in the OH1 position in her career. What she needs to do is fix her approach so she’s not broad jumping under the ball so often and using the right shot for the situation. But yea it doesn’t seem like she has the demeanor to be anything other than a supporting role, which is perfectly fine. But the efficiency needs to improve whether she’s getting 15 sets or 50
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Post by USC✌🏼 on Sept 5, 2022 13:59:31 GMT -5
Hello Is there going to be a live stream for the usc game?
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Post by aznsun90 on Sept 5, 2022 14:42:30 GMT -5
So much to be positive for with this team. I think it shows on the court how tight this team really is.
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