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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 23, 2022 14:48:22 GMT -5
that is laughable, Poly's loss had nothing to do with 2nd night of a back to back anymore than a Hawaii loss does. Poly had swept UCSD on Friday, while UCI played a long five set match on Friday. If anything UCI should have been the one to 'know how it feels'. I didn’t know Irvine also had to play a back to back. So I goes no other team has to do regularly what Hawaii does - play a back to back against a treated team. all teams play 20 games in the same amount of time have no idea what a treated team is, lol Hawaii is 9-1 playing back to back games, seems like it's not much of an issue, sheesh of course, I'm sure it's something to point to because of course Hawaii would be 10-0 and would have never lost a Big West match in 10 years if it wasn't for playing two games in two days in 2019, Hawaii lost two matches. both on Fridaysin 2021, Hawaii lost to SB on a Fri & lost to SB on a Saturday. I'm sure the Saturday loss was due to the back-to-back, so as to the Friday losses, well it is probably the thought of playing back to back that causes such havoc, lol
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 23, 2022 15:05:12 GMT -5
Hawaii is going to be loaded next year while the other Big West teams lose their big guns. I wouldn’t count our chickens before they hatch… who knows who may transfer our next year…. Transfers? We’re not talking about a bunch of freshmen.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Oct 23, 2022 15:05:43 GMT -5
i see that Poly’s loss came on the second night of back to back games. Now they know how it feels! that is laughable, Poly's loss had nothing to do with 2nd night of a back to back anymore than a Hawaii loss does. Poly had swept UCSD on Friday, while UCI played a long five set match on Friday. If anything U CI should have been the one to 'know how it feels'. to be fair, 2left was alluding to playing back to back on the road. uci was playing at home. they didn't have to get on the road after friday's match or in the morning on game day ...
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 23, 2022 15:14:08 GMT -5
that is laughable, Poly's loss had nothing to do with 2nd night of a back to back anymore than a Hawaii loss does. Poly had swept UCSD on Friday, while UCI played a long five set match on Friday. If anything U CI should have been the one to 'know how it feels'. to be fair, 2left was alluding to playing back to back on the road. uci was playing at home. they didn't have to get on the road after friday's match or in the morning on game day ... omg to be fair....it doesn't matter on the road there can also be less distraction this 'myth' of back-to-backs being so 'hard' is so overblown these teams play 3 games in two days and 3 games in 3 days in non-conference not saying spacing out more matches couldn't be done, just it's not that big a deal and there is some real downside (even for Hawaii) to fewer back-to-backs
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Post by 5100 on Oct 23, 2022 15:22:03 GMT -5
I wouldn’t count our chickens before they hatch… who knows who may transfer our next year…. Transfers? We’re not talking about a bunch of freshmen. Agree. I don't see any of the COVID Juniors leaving (Amber, Riley, Tiff, Brae) Lang is staying put. Byrd is graduating so Matias will be next in line. If she stayed through playing just two sets last year, Ham isn't leaving after the season she's had this year. Playing time certainly won't be the reason for Alexander, Ikenaga and Edmonds to leave. I believe there will be more opportunities for Evans and Cowell down the road, especially in Evans' case. We're still uncertain about Kiraly's health status.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 23, 2022 15:24:19 GMT -5
to be fair, 2left was alluding to playing back to back on the road. uci was playing at home. they didn't have to get on the road after friday's match or in the morning on game day ... omg to be fair....it doesn't matter on the road there can also be less distraction this 'myth' of back-to-backs being so 'hard' is so overblown these teams play 3 games in two days and 3 games in 3 days in non-conference not saying spacing out more matches couldn't be done, just it's not that big a deal and there is some real downside (even for Hawaii) to fewer back-to-backs You’re not playing the games, you don’t know the effects of back-to back games on the road with travel. The fact that Hawaii has been success is testament to Robyn, her coaches, and her team. It doesn’t make it any less difficult.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 23, 2022 15:37:19 GMT -5
omg to be fair....it doesn't matter on the road there can also be less distraction this 'myth' of back-to-backs being so 'hard' is so overblown these teams play 3 games in two days and 3 games in 3 days in non-conference not saying spacing out more matches couldn't be done, just it's not that big a deal and there is some real downside (even for Hawaii) to fewer back-to-backs You’re not playing the games, you don’t know the effects of back-to back games on the road with travel. The fact that Hawaii has been success is testament to Robyn, her coaches, and her team. It doesn’t make it any less difficult. the argument only the players can asses is like really, only players can comment on sports lol? why is anyone on here commenting about anything if they are not playing the games, lol just look at the data, it doesn't matter or it's not that significant sure I can comment, I've played sports all my life is there some potential fatigue factor? sure, is it such to make a dramatic difference? no as a player, I'd rather spend less time on the road and would prefer the back-to-backs, less of a grind overall if the conference wanted to schedule to let Hawaii play 3 away games and just kill one week playing some Tues, Thurs, Sat type of schedule - that'd be fine too - it would also result in more 'dead time' as well for Hawaii
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Oct 23, 2022 15:39:14 GMT -5
to be fair, 2left was alluding to playing back to back on the road. uci was playing at home. they didn't have to get on the road after friday's match or in the morning on game day ... omg to be fair....it doesn't matter on the road there can also be less distraction this 'myth' of back-to-backs being so 'hard' is so overblown these teams play 3 games in two days and 3 games in 3 days in non-conference not saying spacing out more matches couldn't be done, just it's not that big a deal and there is some real downside (even for Hawaii) to fewer back-to-backs well that's just silly, of course it matters whether the back-to-back matches are on the road vs at home. if you don't see that, then well, look harder? i dunno ... i'm actually not that passionate about this issue. i'm just coming at this from a fairness standpoint. a handful of hawaii fans are passionate about this though, which i respect. but at the same time, their passion for this seems to pale in comparison to your posts on the subject lately ... lol
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Oct 23, 2022 15:39:26 GMT -5
You’re not playing the games, you don’t know the effects of back-to back games on the road with travel. The fact that Hawaii has been success is testament to Robyn, her coaches, and her team. It doesn’t make it any less difficult. the argument only the players can asses is like really, only players can comment on sports lol? why is anyone on here commenting about anything if they are not playing the games, lol just look at the data, it doesn't matter or it's not that significant sure I can comment, I've played sports all my life is there some potential fatigue factor? sure, is it such to make a dramatic difference? no as a player, I'd rather spend less time on the road and would prefer the back-to-backs, less of a grind overall if the conference wanted to schedule to let Hawaii play 3 away games and just kill one week playing some Tues, Thurs, Sat type of schedule - that'd be fine too - it would also result in more 'dead time' as well for Hawaii Why are you here commenting on a Hawaii thread? Not enough to talk about with your own team?
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Oct 23, 2022 15:42:39 GMT -5
the argument only the players can asses is like really, only players can comment on sports lol? why is anyone on here commenting about anything if they are not playing the games, lol just look at the data, it doesn't matter or it's not that significant sure I can comment, I've played sports all my life is there some potential fatigue factor? sure, is it such to make a dramatic difference? no as a player, I'd rather spend less time on the road and would prefer the back-to-backs, less of a grind overall if the conference wanted to schedule to let Hawaii play 3 away games and just kill one week playing some Tues, Thurs, Sat type of schedule - that'd be fine too - it would also result in more 'dead time' as well for Hawaii Why are you here commenting on a Hawaii thread? Not enough to talk about with your own team? he gets lonely on the lbsu thread ... the banter with him is entertaining at least
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 23, 2022 15:51:29 GMT -5
the argument only the players can asses is like really, only players can comment on sports lol? why is anyone on here commenting about anything if they are not playing the games, lol just look at the data, it doesn't matter or it's not that significant sure I can comment, I've played sports all my life is there some potential fatigue factor? sure, is it such to make a dramatic difference? no as a player, I'd rather spend less time on the road and would prefer the back-to-backs, less of a grind overall if the conference wanted to schedule to let Hawaii play 3 away games and just kill one week playing some Tues, Thurs, Sat type of schedule - that'd be fine too - it would also result in more 'dead time' as well for Hawaii Why are you here commenting on a Hawaii thread? Not enough to talk about with your own team? lol, why do Hawaii fans take over other all sorts of other threads? since you asked why, it's because it's funny to read the complaining, and just offering some logic to the thread - at no cost at that! I love Hawaii
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Post by noblesol on Oct 23, 2022 15:52:27 GMT -5
Cal Poly definitey tired toward the end of their UCI match. Rob and Charlie both commented on it.
Dvoracek and Stockham get the vast majority of sets. Both are constantly maxing out on their swings, intentionally and with emphasis. Stockham gets targeted during serve recieve, and Dvoracek is maxing out on her every serve. They do tire eventually, and more so on the late sets of a back-to-back.
UCI's block and back row defense was able to create long rallies, their serving was good and strategic, and as Stockham and Dvoracek tired, UCI was the better team. If Cal Poly hadn't of had to play a back-to-back, if they weren't on the road, if they weren't playing a team with a good block and back row that's capable of tiring their two big hitters who apparently think every swing has to punch through a wall, they might have survived night two at UCI.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Oct 23, 2022 15:57:30 GMT -5
Why are you here commenting on a Hawaii thread? Not enough to talk about with your own team? lol, why do Hawaii fans take over other all sorts of other threads?since you asked why, it's because it's funny to read the complaining, and just offering some logic to the thread - at no cost at that! I love Hawaii hawaii fans never do this ...
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Oct 23, 2022 16:02:20 GMT -5
ironically, hawaii is playing thu/sat this week on the road ... at ucr and ucd respectively ....
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Post by noblesol on Oct 23, 2022 16:10:26 GMT -5
ironically, hawaii is playing thu/sat this week on the road ... at ucr and ucd respectively .... Right. Enough with the Wahine thread back-to-back bachi talk. Winning on the road is always more difficult, period. Good teams will lose on the road more frequently. Great teams accept the challenge and don't make excuses. Same for their fanbase.
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