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Post by Reach on Jun 25, 2022 14:20:13 GMT -5
suddenly she's the best in the world... according to some. she is. that's why I said, some. just wait until you see what Serbia is hiding.
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Post by donut on Jun 25, 2022 17:22:23 GMT -5
There's also a good chance they are letting Chi rest. Her pro season ran the longest and she just travelled to the Philippines. Rettke and Dixon only had to fly to Shreveport week 1. She rested a fair portion of her pro season. Cool? Doesn't take away from my point at all
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Post by newbeach on Jun 25, 2022 17:51:57 GMT -5
She rested a fair portion of her pro season. Cool? Doesn't take away from my point at all My apologies if this came across as disrespectful. No offense meant to Chi. I was just pointing out that she rested a fair amount of her pro season (her role in Vakifbank may be to play CL, more so than league, as a foreign middle) and that “resting” was unlikely the reason she was not playing more in the VNL so far. It’s more likely as someone pointed out that maybe Karch is trying to determine who will be his 3rd and 4th middles?
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 25, 2022 18:16:55 GMT -5
The investment in Hentz though. Is she the only player to be on all 3 weeks? Is Poulter the only player to be on only one week? So most everyone got a two week assignment except the two above. Edit: I forgot about a few lol I think it makes sense. I think she is better and also has a higher ceiling than white. also they could use more than just one good libero. there is some depth in ever other position
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Post by donut on Jun 25, 2022 18:29:30 GMT -5
Cool? Doesn't take away from my point at all My apologies if this came across as disrespectful. No offense meant to Chi. I was just pointing out that she rested a fair amount of her pro season (her role in Vakifbank may be to play CL, more so than league, as a foreign middle) and that “resting” was unlikely the reason she was not playing more in the VNL so far. It’s more likely as someone pointed out that maybe Karch is trying to determine who will be his 3rd and 4th middles? No maybe - her "rest" was definitely due to her being a foreign MB in Turkey. Also, do you think not starting is "resting?" I would never classify playing overseas, but not starting, as "resting." Pro seasons are incredibly demanding. Dixon's season ended May 3rd. Rettke's ended May 10th. They both flew back (presumably took some time off) and then flew the whopping distance to... Louisiana, before getting more rest while the team flew to the Philippines. Since May 3rd, Chi had 4 games of the Turkish league finals (which means her season was still in full swing), and then she then flew to Slovenia for the CEV Finals (where she did play). Her season didn't end until May 22nd. So between her season ending, moving back to the United States, and flying to the Philippines, she had max 2-3 weeks? You think that's enough rest after a professional season? It's just naive to think rest management isn't playing a part in these roster decisions, especially with players who had longer pro seasons.
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Post by donut on Jun 25, 2022 18:31:40 GMT -5
+ I really don't see how Rettke or Dixon are in serious consideration for spots 3/4 at this point.
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Post by jiggs on Jun 25, 2022 18:36:54 GMT -5
+ I really don't see how Rettke or Dixon are in serious consideration for spots 3/4 at this point. For Dixon. Maybe because the 4th middle won’t play they will just bring her for leadership and experience. Just for vnl finals and someone said Stevenson won’t be available for vnl finals
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Post by volleystan on Jun 25, 2022 19:47:02 GMT -5
My apologies if this came across as disrespectful. No offense meant to Chi. I was just pointing out that she rested a fair amount of her pro season (her role in Vakifbank may be to play CL, more so than league, as a foreign middle) and that “resting” was unlikely the reason she was not playing more in the VNL so far. It’s more likely as someone pointed out that maybe Karch is trying to determine who will be his 3rd and 4th middles? No maybe - her "rest" was definitely due to her being a foreign MB in Turkey. Also, do you think not starting is "resting?" I would never classify playing overseas, but not starting, as "resting." Pro seasons are incredibly demanding. Dixon's season ended May 3rd. Rettke's ended May 10th. They both flew back (presumably took some time off) and then flew the whopping distance to... Louisiana, before getting more rest while the team flew to the Philippines. Since May 3rd, Chi had 4 games of the Turkish league finals (which means her season was still in full swing), and then she then flew to Slovenia for the CEV Finals (where she did play). Her season didn't end until May 22nd. So between her season ending, moving back to the United States, and flying to the Philippines, she had max 2-3 weeks? You think that's enough rest after a professional season? It's just naive to think rest management isn't playing a part in these roster decisions, especially with players who had longer pro seasons. Someone gave you a reasonable explanation of their comment, and you got weird. Why?
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Post by donut on Jun 25, 2022 19:49:30 GMT -5
No maybe - her "rest" was definitely due to her being a foreign MB in Turkey. Also, do you think not starting is "resting?" I would never classify playing overseas, but not starting, as "resting." Pro seasons are incredibly demanding. Dixon's season ended May 3rd. Rettke's ended May 10th. They both flew back (presumably took some time off) and then flew the whopping distance to... Louisiana, before getting more rest while the team flew to the Philippines. Since May 3rd, Chi had 4 games of the Turkish league finals (which means her season was still in full swing), and then she then flew to Slovenia for the CEV Finals (where she did play). Her season didn't end until May 22nd. So between her season ending, moving back to the United States, and flying to the Philippines, she had max 2-3 weeks? You think that's enough rest after a professional season? It's just naive to think rest management isn't playing a part in these roster decisions, especially with players who had longer pro seasons. Someone gave you a reasonable explanation of their comment, and you got weird. Why? How was my response weird?
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Post by volleystan on Jun 25, 2022 19:58:59 GMT -5
Someone gave you a reasonable explanation of their comment, and you got weird. Why? How was my response weird? Because you were agreeing with the poster, but presented it like you were correcting them and being demeaning. Not unusual on this board from what I’ve seen, but a little obnoxious in any case. Poster: less play = less matches because foreigner You: LESS PLAY = LESS MATCHES BECAUSE FOREIGNER. EXTRA SENTENCES.
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Post by donut on Jun 25, 2022 20:05:33 GMT -5
How was my response weird? Because you were agreeing with the poster, but presented it like you were correcting them and being demeaning. Not unusual on this board from what I’ve seen, but a little obnoxious in any case. Poster: less play = less matches because foreigner You: LESS PLAY = LESS MATCHES BECAUSE FOREIGNER. EXTRA SENTENCES. I was not agreeing with the poster... I would suggest re-reading our posts, because you clearly missed the substance of the conversation. I find it "weird" that your 3 posts on this forum are all calling out other posters and you've contributed nothing volleyball-related, but you do you!
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Post by newbeach on Jun 25, 2022 20:06:22 GMT -5
My apologies if this came across as disrespectful. No offense meant to Chi. I was just pointing out that she rested a fair amount of her pro season (her role in Vakifbank may be to play CL, more so than league, as a foreign middle) and that “resting” was unlikely the reason she was not playing more in the VNL so far. It’s more likely as someone pointed out that maybe Karch is trying to determine who will be his 3rd and 4th middles? No maybe - her "rest" was definitely due to her being a foreign MB in Turkey. Also, do you think not starting is "resting?" I would never classify playing overseas, but not starting, as "resting." Pro seasons are incredibly demanding. Dixon's season ended May 3rd. Rettke's ended May 10th. They both flew back (presumably took some time off) and then flew the whopping distance to... Louisiana, before getting more rest while the team flew to the Philippines. Since May 3rd, Chi had 4 games of the Turkish league finals (which means her season was still in full swing), and then she then flew to Slovenia for the CEV Finals (where she did play). Her season didn't end until May 22nd. So between her season ending, moving back to the United States, and flying to the Philippines, she had max 2-3 weeks? You think that's enough rest after a professional season? It's just naive to think rest management isn't playing a part in these roster decisions, especially with players who had longer pro seasons. I used “rest” in quotations because that was your word. I apologized if it came off bad and you still come at me? I like Chi and I meant no disrespect as I said. However, she did in fact “rest” a good portion of matches. Many people (including athletes) refer to “resting” a player if they aren’t playing a match and that was all I meant when I said she rested a fair amount of her pro season. All the players have travel to and from the respective pro teams. Many players in the VNL have travelled to three locations now, played in 8 matches, trained, etc. I’m quite certain Chi herself is likely ready to go (barring any current or lingering injury), which is why I believed that her not being on a roster might have more to do with Karch wanting to still test out other middles or some other reason. Sorry I am naïve and disagreed with your position.
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Post by donut on Jun 25, 2022 20:22:22 GMT -5
All the players have travel to and from the respective pro teams. Many players in the VNL have travelled to three locations now, played in 8 matches, trained, etc. I’m quite certain Chi herself is likely ready to go (barring any current or lingering injury), which is why I believed that her not being on a roster might have more to do with Karch wanting to still test out other middles. Sorry I am naïve and disagreed with your position. All the players have not had the same travel to and from their respective pro teams. And some of those pro teams played for much longer than others. That's my point. I mean, USA players and coaches have talked publicly about the difficulty of going from the Turkish league finals + CEV finals to the national team season specifically, and the need for smart rest over the summer. Also, I'm pretty sure not a single USA player travelled (or will travel) to three locations (we're definitely resting Frantti this week, Bajema certainly didn't beat her out in the depth chart). Chi is also much less of an established started than Haleigh is, so if your theory is true, I don't understand why you don't take Chi over Haleigh. She definitely needs her NT reps over Washington. Plus, again, I don't see Rettke or Dixon taking that 3rd or 4th MB spot, but I could be wrong. happy to just agree to disagree at this point
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Post by volleystan on Jun 25, 2022 20:25:15 GMT -5
Because you were agreeing with the poster, but presented it like you were correcting them and being demeaning. Not unusual on this board from what I’ve seen, but a little obnoxious in any case. Poster: less play = less matches because foreigner You: LESS PLAY = LESS MATCHES BECAUSE FOREIGNER. EXTRA SENTENCES. I was not agreeing with the poster... I would suggest re-reading our posts, because you clearly missed the substance of the conversation. I find it "weird" that your 3 posts on this forum are all calling out other posters and you've contributed nothing volleyball-related, but you do you! I joined the forum one week ago and 2/3 are responding to your comment. Sample’s pretty small - no?
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Post by donut on Jun 25, 2022 20:27:48 GMT -5
I was not agreeing with the poster... I would suggest re-reading our posts, because you clearly missed the substance of the conversation. I find it "weird" that your 3 posts on this forum are all calling out other posters and you've contributed nothing volleyball-related, but you do you! I joined the forum one week ago and 2/3 are responding to your comment. Sample’s pretty small - no? 1) You joined in April. 2) Still weird! Probably even more weird if you've just been here for a week and a half. done with this looking forward to your volleyball posts!
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