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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on Jun 20, 2022 15:51:02 GMT -5
Sorry if this has already been talked about in this thread but I haven’t been able to read through recently. If Ensing is able to keep up this level of play, is there any chance Matt Anderson moves back to the left when he comes back? I know some on here were worried he wouldn’t be terminal enough on the OPP for USA to be very successful well you also have to remember we have aaron russell and tj on the outside. so it would make most sense to keep aaron and tj at outside while Matt goes back to the RS. that's just my two sense tho
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Post by wcdiggs on Jun 20, 2022 15:58:17 GMT -5
Sorry if this has already been talked about in this thread but I haven’t been able to read through recently. If Ensing is able to keep up this level of play, is there any chance Matt Anderson moves back to the left when he comes back? I know some on here were worried he wouldn’t be terminal enough on the OPP for USA to be very successful well you also have to remember we have aaron russell and tj on the outside. so it would make most sense to keep aaron and tj at outside while Matt goes back to the RS. that's just my two sense tho If Matt stays on the RS, I’d prefer to just keep Russell and Jaeshcke on the left over DeFalco honestly. He just wasn’t it for me during the Olympics. That’s why I asked about moving MA back to the left, ESPECIALLY if Ensing can keep up the level of production he showed last week.
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Post by volleyballbro (guru) on Jun 20, 2022 16:10:04 GMT -5
well you also have to remember we have aaron russell and tj on the outside. so it would make most sense to keep aaron and tj at outside while Matt goes back to the RS. that's just my two sense tho If Matt stays on the RS, I’d prefer to just keep Russell and Jaeshcke on the left over DeFalco honestly. He just wasn’t it for me during the Olympics. That’s why I asked about moving MA back to the left, ESPECIALLY if Ensing can keep up the level of production he showed last week. dude what are you talking about haha defalco is the answer. he was fresh out of college for the olympic stage with little to no pro experience. especially with sander going to the sand, aaron and tom being injury prone, and matt anderson being straight old. tj arugably the most talented OH to come out of the US since Karch. hes got good size, great ball control.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 20, 2022 16:16:33 GMT -5
DeFalco wasn't the strongest at the Olympics, but hopefully he will come back strong this year.
IMO, two of Russell, DeFalco, and Jaeschke on the left + Anderson on the right would be better than Anderson on the left and Ensing on the right. Ensing did a great job, but I think we still need to see how he plays against the top teams with their full A lineups. Regardless, it's nice to have options especially if Gabi lives up to his potential.
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Post by jiggs on Jun 20, 2022 16:17:42 GMT -5
DeFalco wasn't the strongest at the Olympics, but hopefully he will come back strong this year. IMO, two of Russell, DeFalco, and Jaeschke on the left + Anderson on the right would be better than Anderson on the left and Ensing on the right. Ensing did a great job, but I think we still need to see how he plays against the top teams with their full A lineups. Regardless, it's nice to have options especially if Gabi lives up to his potential. What do you think is Gabi’s potential. Top 10 opposite?
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 20, 2022 16:28:10 GMT -5
DeFalco wasn't the strongest at the Olympics, but hopefully he will come back strong this year. IMO, two of Russell, DeFalco, and Jaeschke on the left + Anderson on the right would be better than Anderson on the left and Ensing on the right. Ensing did a great job, but I think we still need to see how he plays against the top teams with their full A lineups. Regardless, it's nice to have options especially if Gabi lives up to his potential. What do you think is Gabi’s potential. Top 10 opposite? I think it's possible, when he reaches his prime. Depends on who the other federations have tbh.
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Post by myhouse911 on Jun 20, 2022 16:44:27 GMT -5
FWIW, Defalco hit above .300 at the Olympics, and passed better than Sander (who btw, also hit above .300) so I don't really get the comments about TJ's performance. I don't think the pins were the problem at the OG. However, I have not re-watched any of their matches since last summer, so maybe I'm missing something that the stats don't tell me.
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Post by jiggs on Jun 20, 2022 16:50:41 GMT -5
What do you think is Gabi’s potential. Top 10 opposite? I think it's possible, when he reaches his prime. Depends on who the other federations have tbh. Hopefully he can .I don’t see it yet. I watched him through college and last year in lube and I’m not sold yet but let’s see
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Post by jiggs on Jun 20, 2022 16:56:56 GMT -5
FWIW, Defalco hit above .300 at the Olympics, and passed better than Sander (who btw, also hit above .300) so I don't really get the comments about TJ's performance. I don't think the pins were the problem at the OG. However, I have not re-watched any of their matches since last summer, so maybe I'm missing something that the stats don't tell me. Didn’t USA lose because of errors. Im pretty sure defalco even insinuated it on the worsley podcast. USA likes to serve hard no matter what and sometimes they lose because of it
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 20, 2022 17:12:47 GMT -5
FWIW, Defalco hit above .300 at the Olympics, and passed better than Sander (who btw, also hit above .300) so I don't really get the comments about TJ's performance. I don't think the pins were the problem at the OG. However, I have not re-watched any of their matches since last summer, so maybe I'm missing something that the stats don't tell me. Those numbers are bolstered by the Tunisia game. Again, I’m not saying he was bad but he wasn’t the strongest either. He hit under .300 against Russia and Argentina. He was good against Brazil hitting slightly over .300, although he made quite a few errors as well. Passing and serving are hard to evaluate without seeing the games again, which I don’t want to subject myself to lol. But I will say, when the pressure was on I don’t think he was quite as good. Again, just what I remember and not based on any recent viewing. I’m excited to see how he grows
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Post by myhouse911 on Jun 20, 2022 17:41:24 GMT -5
FWIW, Defalco hit above .300 at the Olympics, and passed better than Sander (who btw, also hit above .300) so I don't really get the comments about TJ's performance. I don't think the pins were the problem at the OG. However, I have not re-watched any of their matches since last summer, so maybe I'm missing something that the stats don't tell me. Those numbers are bolstered by the Tunisia game. Again, I’m not saying he was bad but he wasn’t the strongest either. He hit under .300 against Russia and Argentina. He was good against Brazil hitting slightly over .300, although he made quite a few errors as well. Passing and serving are hard to evaluate without seeing the games again, which I don’t want to subject myself to lol. But I will say, when the pressure was on I don’t think he was quite as good. Again, just what I remember and not based on any recent viewing. I’m excited to see how he grows I don't think it's particularly fair to single out one OH and not the other, for better or worse. For comparisons sake, offensively: vs France - Sander 12K-2E-19TA .526 TJ 9K-2E-21TA .333 vs Russia - Sander 14K-6E-31TA .258, TJ 7K-6E-18TA .056 (his replacement went 1K-4E-8TA btw) vs Tunisia - Sander 14K-2E-20TA .600, TJ 21K-5E-36TA .444 vs Brazil - Sander 16K-4E-31TA .387, TJ 19K-7E-39TA .308 vs Argentina - Sander 6K-3E-17TA .177, TJ 10K-4E-25TA .240 In regards to passing and serving being hard to evaluate - sure, but the same argument can be made for attacking and defending. You have one OH (Sander) who is predominately hitting against the opposing team's setter, who is stereotypically the weaker blocker on the right side, while the other (Defalco) is going up against the OPP.
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Post by myhouse911 on Jun 20, 2022 17:45:14 GMT -5
Also, I am a fan of the Russell/Jaeschke pairing/those two in general, I just think it is ignorant to suggest Defalco should be the odd man out when statistically speaking, that is not the case.
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 20, 2022 18:08:51 GMT -5
Also, I am a fan of the Russell/Jaeschke pairing/those two in general, I just think it is ignorant to suggest Defalco should be the odd man out when statistically speaking, that is not the case. My post had nothing to do about DeFalco vs. Russell/Jaeschke. And it had nothing to do about DeFalco vs. Sander. Which I don’t want to discuss really anyways since Sander is no longer relevant to future team USA unfortunately. All I was saying is that he wasn’t the greatest in the Olympic Games and that there is room for improvement.
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Post by bruinsgold on Jun 20, 2022 19:52:41 GMT -5
When it comes to passing, DeFalco struggled. Both at VNL and Tokyo. We can look at the numbers all we want, but watch the games to see how often USA had to hide DeFlaco in serve receive.
While the stats may say Sander's passing wasn't as high as DeFalco, we didn't adjust the passing pattern and pull Anderson in to take Sander out at all. We did for DeFalco.
I still think we're better off with Rusell/Jaeschke/DeFalco moving forward. Anderson can stay at OPP until he retires/Gabi takes over. I think Ensing has his moments but we need to see what he's got against tougher competition and without Tuaniga.
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Post by wilbur on Jun 20, 2022 19:53:09 GMT -5
Also, I am a fan of the Russell/Jaeschke pairing/those two in general, I just think it is ignorant to suggest Defalco should be the odd man out when statistically speaking, that is not the case. My post had nothing to do about DeFalco vs. Russell/Jaeschke. And it had nothing to do about DeFalco vs. Sander. Which I don’t want to discuss really anyways since Sander is no longer relevant to future team USA unfortunately. All I was saying is that he wasn’t the greatest in the Olympic Games and that there is room for improvement. agree, luckily he is young and most players do improve from his current age. There were a few break downs at critical moments, if I am remembering right, server receive against Russia when USA need to side out clean to win the set and they put 2 float serves at him that he didn't pass well. USA didn't succeed in Japan because of errors at bad times and the other team executed at the critical points in the matches, multiple times. They were very close in the Russia, BRA and ARG matches. All the players were solid, no one was to blame specifically, they just needed a little something extra from anyone. I don't recall any player stepping up and I also don't recall any player costing the team a match. It was a team effort, for better or worse. I predict TJ will be an important part of the team for at least the next 6 years.
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