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Post by ineedajob on Apr 1, 2022 9:26:42 GMT -5
From what I can tell watching the video, there isn’t any sound. I see the caption, but there’s no indication that’s why they’re laughing. Nor do I have any reason to believe this was brought up as a point of pride. Wouldn’t it be plausible that a college team has had discussions about our country’s racist history and it was once brought up by this player that she is embarrassed about this fact about her hometown? I’m not saying that is how it happened, but I’m not ready to write off these players for what I’ve seen so far. No, Boomer, I highly doubt they were driving around giving history lessons. If that were true I don’t think they would nonchalantly call it “the tree where we used to hang people”. Context clues matter and you missed every one of them. Please explain which context clues matter. The problem with this video is a lack of context. There’s no sound. This is a video of a video of a video. In the video, we see the caption, what appears to be the tree in question, and one player in the backseat who appears to be laughing, we don’t know what she’s laughing about. Would it be much different if I took a video of a Christopher Columbus statue and captioned it “The guy we celebrate for committing mass genocide 🤦♂️”
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 1, 2022 10:07:21 GMT -5
No, Boomer, I highly doubt they were driving around giving history lessons. If that were true I don’t think they would nonchalantly call it “the tree where we used to hang people”. Context clues matter and you missed every one of them. Please explain which context clues matter. The problem with this video is a lack of context. There’s no sound. This is a video of a video of a video. In the video, we see the caption, what appears to be the tree in question, and one player in the backseat who appears to be laughing, we don’t know what she’s laughing about. Would it be much different if I took a video of a Christopher Columbus statue and captioned it “The guy we celebrate for committing mass genocide 🤦♂️” While I don't condone any of the racist undertones I don't think what ineedajob is saying is that far out in left field or unreasonable for immature kids. How many times did you bring friends home from college or to your college where you are driving around and saying "this is where I went to high school, this is where I once had to run through backyards to leave a party..." or something along those lines cracking jokes or at least trying to be funny. Without context and/or sound who is to say it wasn't something similar along those lines of her driving around saying that stuff then slipping in " this is our hanging tree where we used to hang people" as clearly a stain on that communities history and is a standing monument to horrific events, sure it is clearly a super bad look to be laughing at a small clip of something that likely got blown up and without further context there leaves little room for them to defend themselves from public opinion that might be missing the whole picture. Not something we should be immediately trying to cancel them for and ruin their young lives. While is still isn't a good look to be laughing at it, it's not like we are looking at a Caroline Knop type of issue where there was instagram comments/posts that were pretty damning. Also, with the woke culture being so quick to tear down statues that represent years of American history, why hasn't this tree been cut down by the angry mobs?
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Apr 1, 2022 11:00:59 GMT -5
Not to be insenstive; but isn't the solution to take down the tree? People are lighting these kids up for laughing, but couldn't they be laughing at the fact that a tree that was used in a lynching on campus is still up?!
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 1, 2022 11:11:45 GMT -5
Not to be insenstive; but isn't the solution to take down the tree? People are lighting these kids up for laughing, but couldn't they be laughing at the fact that a tree that was used in a lynching on campus is still up?! I just made this exact point in my last post. With the woke mob so excited to promote cancel culture at any chance lacking context in most things they are getting outraged about, and American history statues like Robert Lee and Christopher Columbus getting vandalized and having ropes tied around them trying to tear them down, I am surprised this tree hasn't been cut down in some great PR story to fill news hits.
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Post by trojansc on Apr 1, 2022 11:36:04 GMT -5
Not to be insenstive; but isn't the solution to take down the tree? People are lighting these kids up for laughing, but couldn't they be laughing at the fact that a tree that was used in a lynching on campus is still up?! That's not possible because the tree is not on the University of Houston campus. Did you read the article? Also, you know, the girls could have made a statement defending themselves about the situation rather than deleting their twitter accounts. I get it, you can be harassed even when you're innocent, but, not seeming that way to me.
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Post by medusa on Apr 1, 2022 11:42:01 GMT -5
It is what it is. Some quotes 'WE" in a sentence on lynching sounds like " My people".
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Post by gibbyb1 on Apr 1, 2022 11:48:39 GMT -5
Not to be insenstive; but isn't the solution to take down the tree? People are lighting these kids up for laughing, but couldn't they be laughing at the fact that a tree that was used in a lynching on campus is still up?! I just made this exact point in my last post. With the woke mob so excited to promote cancel culture at any chance lacking context in most things they are getting outraged about, and American history statues like Robert Lee and Christopher Columbus getting vandalized and having ropes tied around them trying to tear them down, I am surprised this tree hasn't been cut down in some great PR story to fill news hits. Are you not for cancelling a tree used to hang enslaved people?
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 1, 2022 11:58:25 GMT -5
I just made this exact point in my last post. With the woke mob so excited to promote cancel culture at any chance lacking context in most things they are getting outraged about, and American history statues like Robert Lee and Christopher Columbus getting vandalized and having ropes tied around them trying to tear them down, I am surprised this tree hasn't been cut down in some great PR story to fill news hits. Are you not for cancelling a tree used to hang enslaved people? No I am saying that people are so excited to hurry and cancel these girls over something that is probably lacking context. But at the same time surprised the woke mob that goes on these attacks hasn't tried to cut down an old tree that happened to be used in a horrific isolated incident in that town.
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Post by mervinswerved on Apr 1, 2022 11:59:21 GMT -5
Are you not for cancelling a tree used to hang enslaved people? No I am saying that people are so excited to hurry and cancel these girls over something that is probably lacking context. What if it's not lacking context?
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 1, 2022 12:02:04 GMT -5
Not to be insenstive; but isn't the solution to take down the tree? People are lighting these kids up for laughing, but couldn't they be laughing at the fact that a tree that was used in a lynching on campus is still up?! That's not possible because the tree is not on the University of Houston campus. Did you read the article? Also, you know, the girls could have made a statement defending themselves about the situation rather than deleting their twitter accounts. I get it, you can be harassed even when you're innocent, but, not seeming that way to me. I am assuming that the harassment came on fast and quick because of the thrill people get out of cancel culture, so either the people advising them suggested it, or in an act of desperation to minimize the harassments they deleted their socials to escape it while the situation gets figured out.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 1, 2022 12:04:12 GMT -5
No I am saying that people are so excited to hurry and cancel these girls over something that is probably lacking context. What if it's not lacking context? Then go through the proper channels of suspension, sensitivity and inclusivity training, and encourage them to get out and do cultural charity work while also appointing people to help advise them where they went wrong and how to be better contributing members of society. But until we know that everyone should calm down rather than promoting the excitement to ruin peoples lives.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 12:09:30 GMT -5
Anyone that uses phrases like “woke mob” and “cancel culture” when people do/say/condone racist behavior is telling on themselves. They think accountability is “cancel culture.” Btw, name one person who you claim is a victim of “cancel culture” that has actually lost anything.
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Post by trojansc on Apr 1, 2022 12:09:41 GMT -5
I am assuming that the harassment came on fast and quick because of the thrill people get out of cancel culture, so either the people advising them suggested it, or in an act of desperation to minimize the harassments they deleted their socials to escape it while the situation gets figured out. I am not at all surprised that is what you assumed. You have very strong opinions about 'wokeness' and 'cancel culture' that are probably clouding your judgment.
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Post by trojansc on Apr 1, 2022 12:11:15 GMT -5
Anyone that uses phrases like “woke mob” and “cancel culture” when people do/say/condone racist behavior is telling on themselves. They think accountability is “cancel culture.” Btw, name one person who you claim is a victim of “cancel culture” that has actually lost anything. It gets easier when the same people out themselves multiple times (see: OU Thread about Kylee McLaughlin).
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Post by trojansc on Apr 1, 2022 12:16:20 GMT -5
But until we know that everyone should calm down rather than promoting the excitement to ruin peoples lives. I for one, am not excited about ruining Abbie Jackson's life. If McKenna Melville didn't exist, Abbie Jackson would likely be a multiple-time POY in the American Athletic Conference. I'm actually disappointed. One at the situation, two that it's possible she'll be removed from the team. I'm not happy about that at all. However, it also wouldn't be inappropriate given the severity of the situation. I don't see how not making any public statement is better than deleting your account, especially if there is missing details (which I'm doubting) or innocence (again, I'm doubting it).
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