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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 14:17:25 GMT -5
HA, when I read the topic headline, I thought the HC was Head Coach!! relieved it was court. oh well we all know what program that would be lol
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Post by fatandfurious on Apr 4, 2022 14:38:45 GMT -5
HA, when I read the topic headline, I thought the HC was Head Coach!! relieved it was court. That’s exactly what I thought, too. I started mentally generating a list of talented teams with mediocre (underperforming) coaches. I will not repeat those names! LOL
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Apr 4, 2022 14:43:21 GMT -5
I read the "HC" in the thread title as "Head Coach" instead of "Home Court"
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Post by hornshouse23 on Apr 4, 2022 14:53:03 GMT -5
HA, when I read the topic headline, I thought the HC was Head Coach!! relieved it was court. oh well we all know what program that would be lol Don’t do this.
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Post by tomclen on Apr 4, 2022 14:54:50 GMT -5
Whatever happened to SweetPotatoGate?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 15:03:47 GMT -5
oh well we all know what program that would be lol Don’t do this. sorry it was a cheap shot but it was too good of a set up to not
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Post by kimdc on Apr 4, 2022 19:14:53 GMT -5
It’s a lot embarrassing IMO yea they literally don’t even draw 1000 fans for top 15 matches a lot of the time. Unfortunate Where is this happening? Arizona is lucky to be .500 these days and still brought in at least 1000 for an average Pac-12 match last year despite many people staying away due to the pandemic. Last non-pandemic season, they brought in almost 2000 for Oregon State. Hardly a top match by any means. Average conference match in McKale was between 1500 and 2000. If a mediocre team can manage that many, it may say something about the specific top 15 teams than anything else. Tucson supports women's sports at a greater clip than most of the league, even when the teams aren't at the top of the league. Maybe it's something about the local culture of those teams' cities. And crowds don't determine whether the play is good or not in any sport. Stanford women's basketball doesn't draw well despite how enlightened we are told the Bay Area is. Arizona, Oregon, Oregon State all draw better. Doesn't keep the Cardinal from going to the Final Four.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 19:17:00 GMT -5
yea they literally don’t even draw 1000 fans for top 15 matches a lot of the time. Unfortunate Where is this happening? Arizona is lucky to be .500 these days and still brought in at least 1000 for an average Pac-12 match last year despite many people staying away due to the pandemic. Last non-pandemic season, they brought in almost 2000 for Oregon State. Hardly a top match by any means. Average conference match in McKale was between 1500 and 2000. If a mediocre team can manage that many, it may say something about the specific top 15 teams than anything else. Tucson supports women's sports at a greater clip than most of the league, even when the teams aren't at the top of the league. Maybe it's something about the local culture of those teams' cities. And crowds don't determine whether the play is good or not in any sport. Stanford women's basketball doesn't draw well despite how enlightened we are told the Bay Area is. Arizona, Oregon, Oregon State all draw better. Doesn't keep the Cardinal from going to the Final Four. Stanford and the LA schools
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 4, 2022 19:49:07 GMT -5
Last I checked, Oregon had a better conference record in road matches since they opened Matthew knight arena. Attendance is decent (usually Top 25 nationally) and boisterous (higher % of student attendees) but man we had some teams that got the yips at home.
PAC 12 is very close to full home and home so that’s a solid indicator of lack of HCA
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 4, 2022 20:02:30 GMT -5
I was thinking about how my fave college team (UK) doesn’t seem to really benefit from playing at home all that much compared to other top programs. The fans are far from the court and idk what the turn out is usually like. What other teams don’t really seem to get much HCA ? When I saw the title I assumed I was going to read a lot of dirt about Head Coaches. That would have been entertaining! Oh well.
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Post by dad64 on Apr 4, 2022 20:34:06 GMT -5
All but one PAC12 team play im basketball arenas.1500-2000 people is great, but in a 15,000 seat arena ?
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Post by bbg95 on Apr 4, 2022 20:41:25 GMT -5
Where is this happening? Arizona is lucky to be .500 these days and still brought in at least 1000 for an average Pac-12 match last year despite many people staying away due to the pandemic. Last non-pandemic season, they brought in almost 2000 for Oregon State. Hardly a top match by any means. Average conference match in McKale was between 1500 and 2000. If a mediocre team can manage that many, it may say something about the specific top 15 teams than anything else. Tucson supports women's sports at a greater clip than most of the league, even when the teams aren't at the top of the league. Maybe it's something about the local culture of those teams' cities. And crowds don't determine whether the play is good or not in any sport. Stanford women's basketball doesn't draw well despite how enlightened we are told the Bay Area is. Arizona, Oregon, Oregon State all draw better. Doesn't keep the Cardinal from going to the Final Four. Stanford and the LA schools Are you talking about the last couple seasons? Because Covid restrictions in California have been pretty tight. In the last pre-Covid year of 2019, Stanford averaged 2858, USC averaged 1259 and UCLA averaged 1207. Definitely not in the Nebraska/Wisconsin range, but still. Stanford was 10th in average attendance, which sounds pretty good. But considering the team they had, I think that number is still a little underwhelming. I checked Stanford's home attendance for the 2015 season, which was the one right before that group won their first title. As I expected, it was significantly lower at 1908.
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Post by houstonbear15 on Apr 4, 2022 21:17:21 GMT -5
I read the "HC" in the thread title as "Head Coach" instead of "Home Court" Same, and when someone said something about the Pac 12, it confirmed in my head that the thread was about head coaches. Haha, oops.
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Post by universal on Apr 4, 2022 21:21:14 GMT -5
What is Home Court advantage? What is Home Court disadvantage?
Advantage? Keeping your regular routine. Sleeping in your own bed, driving/walking to the gym. Minimal disruption of regular routine. Same routine used every day for practice. Cheering homers? Research has suggested that in Men's D1 Basketball the visiting team's higher free-throw success rate was due to the jeering "homers" changing the visiting team shooter from a possibly nervous, anxious mental state to a positive athletic attack mode. Thus, more likelihood of shooting success.
Disadvantage? Home games can be just blah blah: Time to walk the dog before the game, or shop for gallon of milk, or do the laundry before the game. Focus can wait... Away games, instead, can sharpen the focus on the one and only reason for being on the road - play the game; win the game.
The concept of HC advantage has more facets than just cheering fans.
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Post by vup on Apr 4, 2022 21:21:51 GMT -5
Honestly want to go to a game at the Galen Center and be one of the only ones in attendance. #goals
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