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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 12, 2022 17:37:21 GMT -5
Class Action won by default lol all 1300 others in it too afraid to head the suit....again abuse and manipulation and brain wash If 1,300 people couldn't prove anything... maybe that's because there is nothing. Everything has always been acquitted. Why would Powers "speak up" decades later when she conveniently started her own club and realized it would never be as successful as Sports Performance. If this is how the lawyer is presenting it, no wonder she's getting sanctioned. 1,300 people couldn't prevail on a consumer claim; it has nothing to do with the truth of Butler's sexual predation of women who were in his care.
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Post by deohge on Apr 12, 2022 17:39:30 GMT -5
If 1,300 people couldn't prove anything... maybe that's because there is nothing. Everything has always been acquitted. Why would Powers "speak up" decades later when she conveniently started her own club and realized it would never be as successful as Sports Performance. If this is how the lawyer is presenting it, no wonder she's getting sanctioned. 1,300 people couldn't prevail on a consumer claim; it has nothing to do with the truth of Butler's sexual predation of women who were in his care. If you say so.
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Post by metoo on Apr 12, 2022 17:46:51 GMT -5
d1athlete- "us" means the people Butler sexually abused. My understanding of the class action lawsuit is the judge thought there was credible evidence to believe us but that the judge wanted the prosecutor to pick a different lead and actually gave them a chance to do so. They disagreed and appealed the judge's decision/request to a higher court which they are now waiting on a decision for. I don't think they lawyers even asked any of the other 1300 to take Mullen's role. But you are right, Butlers have a habit of bullying people into silence. But what I am saying is I would not assume that is the case here and then use that assumption to say there is nothing there. Butler did rape us, we were under 18 yo when he first abused all of us. End of story. I would not say everything was "acquitted'. Major bodies like the above mentioned have banned him for life. That doesn't happen without credible evidence to support their position. Plus the NY- he was not acquitted. In fact he had to pay out something like 35K. I know he and/or his supporters are spreading lies like we were jealous, we wanted more playing time, it happened after we were 18 and not his players anymore. We survivors, did not even know each other that well. Are you saying we all got together to conspire against him for the above reasons? And really you believe he waited to abuse us until we were of age? Ask yourself, does that really make sense? What are we gaining by coming forward? And deohge- I would like to think you are a decent person. Wouldn't you want to make sure, like really sure you were correct before you potentially accused a sexual assault survivor of lying? I can only assume you are really close to Rick and or Cheryl Butler and that you have been fed his lies for so long that you are brainwashed into not having an open mind. deoghe- moderncaycoach asked very good questions. Why won't you answer them ? it seems like when ever someone brings up something substantial you make a one sentence comment not even relating to the question.
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Post by deohge on Apr 12, 2022 17:55:59 GMT -5
d1athlete- "us" means the people Butler sexually abused. My understanding of the class action lawsuit is the judge thought there was credible evidence to believe us but that the judge wanted the prosecutor to pick a different lead and actually gave them a chance to do so. They disagreed and appealed the judge's decision/request to a higher court which they are now waiting on a decision for. I don't think they lawyers even asked any of the other 1300 to take Mullen's role. But you are right, Butlers have a habit of bullying people into silence. But what I am saying is I would not assume that is the case here and then use that assumption to say there is nothing there. Butler did rape us, we were under 18 yo when he first abused all of us. End of story. I would not say everything was "acquitted'. Major bodies like the above mentioned have banned him for life. That doesn't happen without credible evidence to support their position. Plus the NY- he was not acquitted. In fact he had to pay out something like 35K. I know he and/or his supporters are spreading lies like we were jealous, we wanted more playing time, it happened after we were 18 and not his players anymore. We survivors, did not even know each other that well. Are you saying we all got together to conspire against him for the above reasons? And really you believe he waited to abuse us until we were of age? Ask yourself, does that really make sense? What are we gaining by coming forward? And deohge- I would like to think you are a decent person. Wouldn't you want to make sure, like really sure you were correct before you potentially accused a sexual assault survivor of lying? I can only assume you are really close to Rick and or Cheryl Butler and that you have been fed his lies for so long that you are brainwashed into not having an open mind. deoghe- moderncaycoach asked very good questions. Why won't you answer them ? it seems like when ever someone brings up something substantial you make a one sentence comment not even relating to the question. No interest answering questions. You know what happens when you assume. One line disconnected answers keep everyone from recognizing my writing style, that is all I will answer. 😁
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Apr 12, 2022 18:08:29 GMT -5
Class Action won by default lol all 1300 others in it too afraid to head the suit....again abuse and manipulation and brain wash Whatever, still won. This will go the same way, except the Butlers will get payed. $$$$$ * paid*. PS: great to see you have started another phony screen name/VT ID: "d1athlete". Y'know, I really didn't think, or feel, there was such a thing as human evil until something kind of similar to this SPVB sh!t happened to me (a young male, abused in participatory sports). Those psychotic sociopaths within my situation...who acted and spoke as deohge and his other schizophrenic personas are doing now... did end up being reprimanded: with lost careers! My point? Karma works; furiously trying to evade as they might, human pond-scum always get their comeuppance! Y'all have a great kuleana (accountability plus karma), as we say here in Hawai'i. Oh btw deohge, we have a word that means 'one without a soul'. "Haole" = YOU.
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Post by deohge on Apr 12, 2022 18:15:12 GMT -5
Whatever, still won. This will go the same way, except the Butlers will get payed. $$$$$ * paid*. PS: great to see you have started another phony screen name/VT ID: "d1athlete". Y'know, I really didn't feel or think there was such a thing as human evil...until something kind of similar to this SPVB sh!t happened to me (a young male, abused in participatory sports). Those psychotic sociopaths within my situation...who acted and spoke as deohge and his other schizophrenic personas are doing now... did end up being reprimanded and lost careers. My point? Karma works: and furiously try as they might, human pond scum always get their just, due comeuppance! Y'all have a great kuleana (accountability plus karma)...as we say here in Hawai'i! Oh, btw deohge, we have a word that means 'one without a soul'. "Haole" = YOU. Oh that hurts so bad. Why don't you see how long you can hold your breath in the middle of the ocean.
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Post by stanfordvb on Apr 12, 2022 23:23:38 GMT -5
Interesting take for somebody looking for 250 million in damages. I think the lawyers for the defense will be very interested that such a strident advocate for the Butlers with such intimate knowledge of their business has declared that no damage has been done to them at all. How do you know if I know the Butlers? Maybe I'm a advocate for the wrongfully accused. Bc you are weirdly infatuated with a grown man who openly admitted to have sex with his players. The fact that you can’t even see how that is morally wrong regardless of the legal specifics is concerning it could have been entirely consensual and that is still extremely weird and creepy. Coaches are not supposed to have sex with their players. You dedicate so much time to defending someone who is genuinely a morally bad person, and that is based off the sole fact that he is a coach who has admitted to having sexual relations with his players. I’m not sure where ur from but that’s not normal everywhere else
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Post by deohge on Apr 13, 2022 5:51:07 GMT -5
How do you know if I know the Butlers? Maybe I'm a advocate for the wrongfully accused. Bc you are weirdly infatuated with a grown man who openly admitted to have sex with his players. The fact that you can’t even see how that is morally wrong regardless of the legal specifics is concerning it could have been entirely consensual and that is still extremely weird and creepy. Coaches are not supposed to have sex with their players. You dedicate so much time to defending someone who is genuinely a morally bad person, and that is based off the sole fact that he is a coach who has admitted to having sexual relations with his players. I’m not sure where ur from but that’s not normal everywhere else I'm sorry, what's your point?
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Post by boh on Apr 13, 2022 9:35:57 GMT -5
Stop talking to the troll. Literally here just to cloud everything up. Say what you want to say about the situation and ignore them.
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Post by deohge on Apr 13, 2022 9:53:11 GMT -5
Stop talking to the troll. Literally here just to cloud everything up. Say what you want to say about the situation and ignore them. You have been reported!
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Post by reader on Apr 13, 2022 10:26:36 GMT -5
Trolls always try to drag any Butler discussions down to a standstill. Carry on with your own topic, ignore the distractions, and repeat the truth.
USAV lifetime ban AAU lifetime ban JVA ban Disney/ESPN ban
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Post by deohge on Apr 13, 2022 10:29:19 GMT -5
Trolls always try to drag any Butler discussions down to a standstill. Carry on with your own topic, ignore the distractions, and repeat the truth. USAV lifetime ban AAU lifetime ban JVA ban Disney/ESPN ban I hate when trolls do that.
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Post by stanfordvb on Apr 13, 2022 10:32:06 GMT -5
Didn’t he start JVA bc he was banned from USA? And then got banned from JVA… maybe I heard wrong but someone told me that recently
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 13, 2022 10:37:18 GMT -5
Didn’t he start JVA bc he was banned from USA? And then got banned from JVA… maybe I heard wrong but someone told me that recently Yes helped start, and Jenny stood by him in the midst of the publicity ramping up and hung out with him at the TD desk in Kansas City in 2016 for everyone to see...
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Post by deohge on Apr 13, 2022 11:03:59 GMT -5
Didn’t he start JVA bc he was banned from USA? And then got banned from JVA… maybe I heard wrong but someone told me that recently Yes helped start, and Jenny stood by him in the midst of the publicity ramping up and hung out with him at the TD desk in Kansas City in 2016 for everyone to see... Rick has done so much for girls volleyball.
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