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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 14:47:20 GMT -5
Hord will be a considerable offensive improvement over a rehabbing Stivrins. She will draw a lot of attention which helps everyone else. You don’t know that their offense isn’t improved, I would assume you’re not making that claim based on a spring match (which Kubik hit very well in if you are). Mendelson is still coming in, the freshmen pins have summer training and time to improve as they become sophomores and Whitney has a ton of potential to be a terminal opposite. Caffey and Hord will be the best middle attack in the country. Krause will likely be on the left, which is more natural to her than RS and Cook said she’s been killing it there in practice despite not having a great showing in in 2 sets in April five months before the season begins. In summary, I find it very premature to say their offense won’t be improved I didn't say NE's offense won't be improved. my contention was that it hadn't, and I did go on the Kansas game to make that assessment in the absence of anything else that's tangible. My saying the Huskers have a higher ceiling than OSU entailed all your assumptions. if I remember correctly, they were "killing it" in practice last season too. didn't stop them from hitting in the low 200s for the season in games. don't get me wrong, i'm a huge Husker fan. all i was saying was that Nebraska was facing uncertainties at key positions (so were MN and WI) such that ranking OSU at #2 preseason was not a stretch. that 6-3 middle i referred to was Eloise Brandewie BTW. and finally for the record. I would take a coach publicly saying that a player is “killing it” with a grain of salt. Every coach says that. What else would they say about them lol? |
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Post by jwvolley on May 13, 2022 14:48:26 GMT -5
Hord will be a considerable offensive improvement over a rehabbing Stivrins. She will draw a lot of attention which helps everyone else. You don’t know that their offense isn’t improved, I would assume you’re not making that claim based on a spring match (which Kubik hit very well in if you are). Mendelson is still coming in, the freshmen pins have summer training and time to improve as they become sophomores and Whitney has a ton of potential to be a terminal opposite. Caffey and Hord will be the best middle attack in the country. Krause will likely be on the left, which is more natural to her than RS and Cook said she’s been killing it there in practice despite not having a great showing in in 2 sets in April five months before the season begins. In summary, I find it very premature to say their offense won’t be improved Considering that Nebraska's .222 hitting percentage was their lowest in at least 39 years, it's nearly impossible for them not to improve offensively. You’ve already made this comment before. We get it. The person very clearly made a statement about the offense so I was addressing it. |
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Post by bbg95 on May 13, 2022 14:49:16 GMT -5
Considering that Nebraska's .222 hitting percentage was their lowest in at least 39 years, it's nearly impossible for them not to improve offensively. You’ve already made this comment before. We get it. The person very clearly made a statement about the offense so I was addressing it. I'll keep pointing it out as long as you keep making assumptions without evidence. |
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Post by jwvolley on May 13, 2022 14:51:18 GMT -5
Hord will be a considerable offensive improvement over a rehabbing Stivrins. She will draw a lot of attention which helps everyone else. You don’t know that their offense isn’t improved, I would assume you’re not making that claim based on a spring match (which Kubik hit very well in if you are). Mendelson is still coming in, the freshmen pins have summer training and time to improve as they become sophomores and Whitney has a ton of potential to be a terminal opposite. Caffey and Hord will be the best middle attack in the country. Krause will likely be on the left, which is more natural to her than RS and Cook said she’s been killing it there in practice despite not having a great showing in in 2 sets in April five months before the season begins. In summary, I find it very premature to say their offense won’t be improved improve by how much? Their offense was pretty abysmal last year so even with slight improvement that isn’t great. I’m sure I’m gonna get hit with the (their offense got them to a NC match last year blah blah blah though id argue their offense is the reason they DIDNT win that match I mean how many blocks did Wisconsin have? 900?) They were carried in the post season by their serving, passing, and defending. (Which is good. More power to them but they are losing a key cog in this strategy) Without Akana the offense will have to step it up even more because I’m confident they won’t replace that position with a better server/defender because I think the safe assumption is that Hames will be setting. This means less chances in transition for Nebraskas attackers and less extended rallies for opponents to make errors which is what Nebraska did a great job of doing last season. They are also losing an important part of their coaching staff. Basically my point is it’s okay to be skeptical of Nebraska especially considering the post you quoted didn’t even single out Nebraska at all. It’s perfectly fine to be skeptical of NE. The context was ranking teams for next year and looking ahead to the fall that poster said “their offense isn’t improved”. My point was that’s a premature thing to say regarding a team who doesn’t have one of their biggest weapons on campus yet, among other things I said. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 14:53:14 GMT -5
improve by how much? Their offense was pretty abysmal last year so even with slight improvement that isn’t great. I’m sure I’m gonna get hit with the (their offense got them to a NC match last year blah blah blah though id argue their offense is the reason they DIDNT win that match I mean how many blocks did Wisconsin have? 900?) They were carried in the post season by their serving, passing, and defending. (Which is good. More power to them but they are losing a key cog in this strategy) Without Akana the offense will have to step it up even more because I’m confident they won’t replace that position with a better server/defender because I think the safe assumption is that Hames will be setting. This means less chances in transition for Nebraskas attackers and less extended rallies for opponents to make errors which is what Nebraska did a great job of doing last season. They are also losing an important part of their coaching staff. Basically my point is it’s okay to be skeptical of Nebraska especially considering the post you quoted didn’t even single out Nebraska at all. It’s perfectly fine to be skeptical of NE. The context was ranking teams for next year and looking ahead to the fall that poster said “their offense isn’t improved”. My point was that’s a premature thing to say regarding a team who doesn’t have one of their biggest weapons on campus yet, among other things I said. well then I guess my counter point/question would be does your assumed improvement in offense make up for the loss of Akana for the teams overall level? |
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Post by jwvolley on May 13, 2022 14:54:17 GMT -5
You’ve already made this comment before. We get it. The person very clearly made a statement about the offense so I was addressing it. I'll keep pointing it out as long as you keep making assumptions without evidence. What assumptions did I make? Did I say the freshman pins will absolutely be better? Did I say Mendelson will be in the lineup? Did I say Kubik will hit a higher HP? The only definitive statements I made were that Hord will be an offensive upgrade and that Caffey/Hord will be the best offensive middle duo in the country. I’m happy to own those assumptions. |
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Post by bbg95 on May 13, 2022 15:01:35 GMT -5
I looked up the box score out of curiosity, and Wisconsin had 24 (!) blocks in the match. I was pretty close. Also Roddy and co were unreal covering that match too. Wisconsin easily could have had over 30 kill blocks if Nebraskas defense wasn’t so good. There were so many balls watching the replay that went straight back down but were somehow covered so weren’t on the box score I suspected that Wisconsin's 24 blocks might be a national championship match record, and sure enough. |
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Post by vergyltantor on May 13, 2022 15:08:25 GMT -5
Hord will be a considerable offensive improvement over a rehabbing Stivrins. She will draw a lot of attention which helps everyone else. You don’t know that their offense isn’t improved, I would assume you’re not making that claim based on a spring match (which Kubik hit very well in if you are). Mendelson is still coming in, the freshmen pins have summer training and time to improve as they become sophomores and Whitney has a ton of potential to be a terminal opposite. Caffey and Hord will be the best middle attack in the country. Krause will likely be on the left, which is more natural to her than RS and Cook said she’s been killing it there in practice despite not having a great showing in in 2 sets in April five months before the season begins. In summary, I find it very premature to say their offense won’t be improved Considering that Nebraska's .222 hitting percentage was their lowest in at least 39 years, it's nearly impossible for them not to improve offensively. As long as the Huskers can hold the opponent to anywhere near the .148 percentage of last season, a .222 might be enough to get them very deep in the tournament once again. |
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Post by bbg95 on May 13, 2022 15:09:41 GMT -5
Considering that Nebraska's .222 hitting percentage was their lowest in at least 39 years, it's nearly impossible for them not to improve offensively. As long as the Huskers can hold the opponent to anywhere near the .148 percentage of last season, a .222 might be enough to get them very deep in the tournament once again. Maybe. I think it's a minor miracle that Nebraska made it as far as they did with that offense, but we'll see. |
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Post by vollectator on May 13, 2022 15:10:28 GMT -5
Akana's serve receive wasn't great at times, but the question is whether Hames or Boesiger will be an improvement. with all her superb defensive instincts and skills, Hames probably hasn't had extensive serve receive training, if any at all. Boesiger is a freshman and a walkon. Akana may be a bigger loss than people realize.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 15:20:45 GMT -5
Considering that Nebraska's .222 hitting percentage was their lowest in at least 39 years, it's nearly impossible for them not to improve offensively. As long as the Huskers can hold the opponent to anywhere near the .148 percentage of last season, a .222 might be enough to get them very deep in the tournament once again. without doing the research I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 222 is an outlier for teams appearing in a NC match. I could be wrong tho |
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Post by bbg95 on May 13, 2022 15:38:51 GMT -5
As long as the Huskers can hold the opponent to anywhere near the .148 percentage of last season, a .222 might be enough to get them very deep in the tournament once again. without doing the research I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 222 is an outlier for teams appearing in a NC match. I could be wrong tho It definitely is, at least in the last decade. Since 2011, the only other finalist that is even close is 2013 Wisconsin, which hit .233 on the season. I'm not sure about earlier than that because 2011 was the last year where the information was easy to find online without having to do a lot of extra research. The worst hitting percentage by a national champion was 2011 UCLA at .250. Here are the hitting percentages for the losing finalists from 2011-2020: 2011: .261 2012: .289 2013: .233 2014: .271 2015: .304 2016: .307 2017: .278 2018: .265 2019: .290 2020: .334 (Texas was pretty unlucky to post this number in the same season that Kentucky hit .360) |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2022 15:44:02 GMT -5
without doing the research I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 222 is an outlier for teams appearing in a NC match. I could be wrong tho It definitely is, at least in the last decade. Since 2011, the only other finalist that is even close is 2013 Wisconsin, which hit .233 on the season. I'm not sure about earlier than that because 2011 was the last year where the information was easy to find online without having to do a lot of extra research. The worst hitting percentage by a national champion was 2011 UCLA at .250. Here are the hitting percentages for the losing finalists from 2011-2020: 2011: .261 2012: .289 2013: .233 2014: .271 2015: .304 2016: .307 2017: .278 2018: .265 2019: .290 2020: .334 (Texas was pretty unlucky to post this number in the same season that Kentucky hit .360) 2013 Wisconsin doesn’t count lmaoooo. Those hitters were tragic lmao. Carlini was just that good |
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Post by robtearle on May 13, 2022 15:53:48 GMT -5
I'll keep pointing it out as long as you keep making assumptions without evidence. What assumptions did I make? Did I say the freshman pins will absolutely be better? Did I say Mendelson will be in the lineup? Did I say Kubik will hit a higher HP? The only definitive statements I made were that Hord will be an offensive upgrade and that Caffey/Hord will be the best offensive middle duo in the country. I’m happy to own those assumptions. Well, there's the assumption in there that Caffey will be on the team. And while I am aware of the statements from Nebraska people that the NCAA has cleared her, etc., until I hear the NCAA say that and I hear an explanation for how she "couldn't play the spring match without causing a big financial hit", I'm not assuming anything about Caffey, one way or the other. |
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Post by bbg95 on May 13, 2022 16:09:28 GMT -5
without doing the research I’m gonna go out on a limb and say 222 is an outlier for teams appearing in a NC match. I could be wrong tho It definitely is, at least in the last decade. Since 2011, the only other finalist that is even close is 2013 Wisconsin, which hit .233 on the season. I'm not sure about earlier than that because 2011 was the last year where the information was easy to find online without having to do a lot of extra research. The worst hitting percentage by a national champion was 2011 UCLA at .250. Here are the hitting percentages for the losing finalists from 2011-2020: 2011: .261 2012: .289 2013: .233 2014: .271 2015: .304 2016: .307 2017: .278 2018: .265 2019: .290 2020: .334 (Texas was pretty unlucky to post this number in the same season that Kentucky hit .360) Another way to look at this is where these teams ranked in hitting percentage nationally. Nebraska was 108th in the country in hitting percentage in 2021, which was by far the worst of any Final Four team since 2011. Again, 2013 Wisconsin was the closest at 78th. Every other Final Four team was in the top 50, over 85% were in the top 20, over 75% were in the top 15, nearly 60% were in the top 10 and over 40% were in the top five. |
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