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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 31, 2022 21:36:24 GMT -5
I only recently found out that baseball has changed they post-season again. Now they have three wild card teams, and #1 and #2 play each other, while #3 plays the #3 division winner?
That's crazy, because in the AL at least, the #3 division winner is definitely going to be an easier opponent than any of the three presumed wildcard teams. So it's like a reward to come in #3 for the wild card.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 31, 2022 22:08:24 GMT -5
I only recently found out that baseball has changed they post-season again. Now they have three wild card teams, and #1 and #2 play each other, while #3 plays the #3 division winner? That's crazy, because in the AL at least, the #3 division winner is definitely going to be an easier opponent than any of the three presumed wildcard teams. So it's like a reward to come in #3 for the wild card. Standings as of now: #3 Division winner: 68-60 #1 Wild Card: 72-57 #2 Wild Card: 72-58 #3 Wild Card: 70-59 First out: 68-61 Second out: 67-61 It is just a 2 1/2 game difference between #1 WC and #3 Division winner and 1 1/2 with the #3 WC. There is no guarantee that the #3 Division winner will have the worst record among the playoff teams or even be the worst team. It actually works out better than expected this year since the top 2 teams in the AL are clearly better than the rest and get the first round bye. The NL is worse - where the #1 WC (Braves or Mets) will have the 3rd best record and close to 10 games better than any of the AL WC teams.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 31, 2022 23:01:04 GMT -5
It seems like they could set it up so that D1 and D2 get byes, D3 and W1 get home field advantage, and W2 gets to choose whether to play W1 or D3.
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 1, 2022 0:24:24 GMT -5
i remember the days when baseball teams used to get rewarded for excellence. now it's been watered down to just being good enough to get in.. it really sucks.
hooray for european soccer leagues. nothing cheap about those champions.
at least in the nhl they still award the presidents trophy for best regular season, even if it isnt the stanley cup. the regular season chmp in every league should at least get some token hardware. it's better than a worthless pat on the back.
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 1, 2022 7:33:38 GMT -5
It seems like they could set it up so that D1 and D2 get byes, D3 and W1 get home field advantage, and W2 gets to choose whether to play W1 or D3. That doesn't sound bad - I guess there is the notion of whose interests should be most protected. The winner of a Division or the top WC team that had a better record? I would 'agree' that getting home field advantage is reward enough for winning the division despite an inferior record, and thus go with your plan.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 1, 2022 11:50:54 GMT -5
i remember the days when baseball teams used to get rewarded for excellence. now it's been watered down to just being good enough to get in.. it really sucks. So you would prefer what? The AL and NL teams with the best records immediately go to the World Series? That's the way it used to be.
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 1, 2022 12:25:47 GMT -5
i remember the days when baseball teams used to get rewarded for excellence. now it's been watered down to just being good enough to get in.. it really sucks. So you would prefer what? The AL and NL teams with the best records immediately go to the World Series? That's the way it used to be. exactly.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 1, 2022 12:50:21 GMT -5
You remember baseball before 1969? Not impossible of course, but I was too young in 1969 to remember baseball before they started with League Championship Series.
Of course, back then there were only 10 teams in each league.
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Post by jayj79 on Sept 1, 2022 12:57:48 GMT -5
i remember the days when baseball teams used to get rewarded for excellence. now it's been watered down to just being good enough to get in.. it really sucks. If your team is that good, then winning Division and League championship series in order to qualify for the World Series shouldn't be a problem.
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 5, 2022 23:33:30 GMT -5
i remember the days when baseball teams used to get rewarded for excellence. now it's been watered down to just being good enough to get in.. it really sucks. If your team is that good, then winning Division and League championship series in order to qualify for the World Series shouldn't be a problem. you already proved yourself over the course of the regular season,. i know a lot of people will argue differently but the team that has the best record over the largest number of games is the best team in its league. period. the playoffs are nothing but a money grab that the owners can get away with because people are willing to watch. i will admit right now i got brainwashed into thinking the same.
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Post by jayj79 on Sept 6, 2022 0:09:31 GMT -5
If your team is that good, then winning Division and League championship series in order to qualify for the World Series shouldn't be a problem. you already proved yourself over the course of the regular season,. i know a lot of people will argue differently but the team that has the best record over the largest number of games is the best team in its league. period. the playoffs are nothing but a money grab that the owners can get away with because people are willing to watch. i will admit right now i got brainwashed into thinking the same. so you're saying they should get rid of the playoffs and the world series and just award the MLB championship to the team who has the best winning percentage in the regular season?
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 6, 2022 0:13:17 GMT -5
you already proved yourself over the course of the regular season,. i know a lot of people will argue differently but the team that has the best record over the largest number of games is the best team in its league. period. the playoffs are nothing but a money grab that the owners can get away with because people are willing to watch. i will admit right now i got brainwashed into thinking the same. so you're saying they should get rid of the playoffs and the world series and just award the MLB championship to the team who has the best winning percentage in the regular season? sure. why not? it sure works for european soccer leagues.
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Post by jayj79 on Sept 6, 2022 0:17:32 GMT -5
so you're saying they should get rid of the playoffs and the world series and just award the MLB championship to the team who has the best winning percentage in the regular season? sure. why not? it sure works for european soccer leagues. should they let baseball games end in ties too, as many european soccer leagues do?
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 6, 2022 0:44:22 GMT -5
sure. why not? it sure works for european soccer leagues. should they let baseball games end in ties too, as many european soccer leagues do? ha ha. okay i asked for that one, if circumstances warranted, absolutely there should be ties. there ate games where neither team deserves to win so a tie is appropriate. okay i admit my position is extreme and a league championship series between the division winners was plenty for many years ( most of my life) and at least mlb was different enough from the nfl, nba and nhl. but now mlb is no different and that's too bad. the biggest disgrace in history is miami winning the series twice without ever winning the nl east even once. i just figure if the extremes are awarding the trophy to the team with the best regular season record or having the playoffs as bloated as the nba or nhl, i would definitely opt for the former.
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Post by nowhereman on Sept 6, 2022 0:48:03 GMT -5
should they let baseball games end in ties too, as many european soccer leagues do? ha ha. okay i asked for that one, if circumstances warranted, absolutely there should be ties. there ate games where neither team deserves to win so a tie is appropriate. okay i admit my position is extreme and a league championship series between the division winners was plenty for many years ( most of my life) and at least mlb was different enough from the nfl, nba and nhl. but now mlb is no different and that's too bad. the biggest disgrace in history is miami winning the series twice without ever winning the nl east even once. i just figure if the extremes are awarding the trophy to the team with the best regular season record or having the playoffs as bloated as the nba or nhl, i would definitely opt for the former. another way to look at it is this: baseball season should not extend into november. football should end in january, and hockey and basketball should not happen in june. this is all the handiwork of the owners.; the players would love to get the same money for fewer games.
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