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Post by jaypak on Oct 26, 2022 16:39:54 GMT -5
kiyoat you make a good point. It's almost impossible for midmajor coaches to perfectly predict during the preceding Spring how all 12 OOC opponents will pan out. P5 teams don't have to play the guessing game because they will get plenty of resumé opportunities in conference. I don't think anyone can fault USD for West Virginia dropping from 2021 to 2022. Beating a P5 team, any P5 team, makes it look like you tried to schedule up, even though in reality USD is at a higher level than WV to begin with. That paradox is why at least 1-2 of the road games should have involved P5's or "sure thing" midmajors like Western Kentucky, Rice, Marquette, Colorado State - to name a few examples that aren't super far away geographically. Hopefully the Yotes will get a fair shake from the committee, because they have the talent, experience, and coaching to win in the NCAAT. And, I agree with your comments about Summit coach of the year.
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Post by boxcariii on Oct 27, 2022 10:38:52 GMT -5
2022 Non-Conference Season:| date | opponent | 21 RPI | current | diff. | | Aug 26 | Louisville | 1 | 2 | -1 |
| Northern KY | 59 | 108 | -49 |
| Missouri | 200 | 123 | +77 | | Sep 2 | vs Portland St | 101 | 85 | +16 |
| vs New Mexico | 125 | 88 | +37 |
| @ UTEP | 45 | 97 | -52 | | Sep 9 | CSU-Bakersfield | 173 | 253 | -80 |
| West Virginia | 50 | 160 | -110 |
| Northern CO | 61 | 147 | -86 | | Sep 16 | vs Stetson | 223 | 182 | +41 |
| vs Cornell | 219 | 303 | -84 |
| @ USF | 248 | 185 | +63 |
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Not an excuse, but this schedule looked better on paper a few months ago. West Virginia really tanked. Some of it is luck no doubt. And then there's bad luck and there's good luck. Really liked this breakdown, thanks for it! |
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 27, 2022 11:15:07 GMT -5
...That paradox is why at least 1-2 of the road games should have involved P5's or "sure thing" midmajors like Western Kentucky, Rice, Marquette, Colorado State - to name a few examples that aren't super far away geographically. Hopefully the Yotes will get a fair shake from the committee, because they have the talent, experience, and coaching to win in the NCAAT. Yeah, Good point on the road tourneys. I have to imagine there were other opportunities out there. Our situation in 2019 was similar to now. The RPI was hovering between 38 and 40 for a few weeks at the end of the season. We had a top-50 loss at Iowa State (#30) and four top-100 wins over Iowa (#92) DenverX2 (#74) and Wyoming (#67). We were upset in the Semifinals of the Summit Tournament by Omaha, maintained a #38 RPI, and did not get an at-large bid. I assume the top-100 wins over P-5 teams didn't hold enough weight, because we had no bad losses. We only played one top-50 team. In the NIVC Tournament we ended up in the championship match, losing to Georgia Tech. I think both teams were probably better than at least some of the teams that did get at-large bids that year. Ga Tech was a ranked team through most of 2020, IIRC. The 2021 Omaha team was just as good, if not better than the 2019 Yotes. They scheduled very tough, and ended up 3-7 in the non-conference. They lost to eventual national runner-up Nebraska (5 sets!), #11-RPI Creighton, #24 Illinois, #56 Iowa St, #71 SMU in 5 sets, #85 ASU in 5 sets, beat #76 Weber State and #96 Georgia in four sets, and #201 Drake in three sets. After winning the Summit Regular season then losing to South Dakota in the championship, they weren't even a blip on the radar of the NCAA. Why? Because losing 7 non-con matches kills a mid-major's RPI (#74), regardless of who those losses are to. So there is a limit to how a tough non-con helps your cause (as a mid-major) IMHO. There is a fine line between too easy and too tough. As you alluded to, it's a moving target with no room for error. |
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 27, 2022 11:37:09 GMT -5
Thursday, October 27, 2022
Away_______ Home ________Time Denver...........Western Illinois..6:00 P.M. *free stream* North Dakota..Oral Roberts......7:00 P.M. *free stream* NDSU.............Kansas City.......7:00 P.M. *free stream* Omaha...........St. Thomas.......7:00 P.M. *free stream* Friday, October 28, 2022Away_______ Home________ Time
SDSU.............South Dakota....7:00 P.M. *free stream* Saturday, October 29, 2022
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Denver...........St. Thomas.......11:00 A.M. *free stream* Omaha..........Western Illinois..12:00 P.M. *free stream* North Dakota..Kansas City........1:00 P.M. *free stream* NDSU............Oral Roberts.......1:00 P.M. *free stream* Free streaming for everyone!..... Everyone?  FREE LINK FOR FREE STREAM LINKS RIGHT HERE
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Post by Steve vb on Oct 27, 2022 19:12:39 GMT -5
Kudos for St. Thomas for having a free stream that has good quality with replay and multiple cameras.
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Post by clob on Oct 27, 2022 20:28:38 GMT -5
Props to the Summit League for showing game for free.
That said, the links to the NDSU game are a little weird. Apparently they want me to watch a UNO-Denver game from last spring.
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 27, 2022 22:26:57 GMT -5
UND and NDSU slide by Oral Roberts and KC, respectfully, in five sets each.
Denver and Omaha beat bottom-dwelling WIU and St Thomas in 4-sets each.
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Post by vballfan17 on Oct 27, 2022 22:30:22 GMT -5
UND and NDSU slide by Oral Roberts and KC, respectfully, in five sets each. Denver and Omaha beat bottom-dwelling WIU and St Thomas in 4-sets each. Oh wow. UND came back from 0-2 down. Go Hawks! |
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 28, 2022 6:44:30 GMT -5
UND and NDSU slide by Oral Roberts and KC, respectfully, in five sets each. Denver and Omaha beat bottom-dwelling WIU and St Thomas in 4-sets each. Oh wow. UND came back from 0-2 down. Go Hawks! Coach Tupac making a case for COY. |
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 28, 2022 10:14:28 GMT -5
Friday Match Thread for the SD Corn Showdown Rivalry: SDSU @ USD |
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 31, 2022 11:11:43 GMT -5
Summit Standings 10-30-22
| Stnd | Team | W/L | big matches left | | 1 | South Dakota | 10-1 | @ UND, NDSU, UND | | 2 | NDSU | 10-2 | @ UND, Omaha, Denver, @ USD | | 3 | Omaha | 10-3 | @ NDSU, @ UND, Denver | | 4 | North Dakota | 9-3 | USD, NDSU, Denver, Omaha, @ USD | | 5 | Denver | 9-4 | @ UND, @ NDSU, @ Omaha | | . | . | . |
| | 6T | SDSU | 4-7 | @ NDSU, UND, NDSU | | 7T | ORU | 4-8 | @ Denver, @ Omaha, USD | | 7T | Kansas City | 4-8 | @ Omaha, @ Denver, USD | | . | . | . |
| | 9 | St Thomas | 1-12 |
| | 10 | WIU | 0-13 |
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USD, NDSU, Omaha, UND and Denver are all within 1/2 match of each other, although the order of teams has not changed since last week. This group is a near-lock for the 6-team tournament. I think that the Yotes have a slight edge in remaining schedule, plus the slight edge in record for a regular-season title. North Dakota has a real gauntlet left, even if those matches are mostly at home. In the Middle tier, there is still a tight 3-way race for 6th place, with the last tournament spot on the line. SDSU, Kansas City and Oral Roberts are running out of time to make their case, and generate some separation from the other two. Given the remaining schedule, I'll give SDSU the slight edge.  St Thomas and WIU will be out of the Summit Tournament race with one or two more losses.
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Post by kiyoat on Oct 31, 2022 11:12:31 GMT -5
Summit Championship History Lesson:
The last 20 years
year..reg season .........tourney champ......location
2002 Oral Roberts ....Oral Roberts (1) .Tulsa, Okla.
2003 Valparaiso ..........Valparaiso (1) ....Valparaiso, Ind.
2004 Valparaiso ..........Valparaiso (1) ....Tulsa, Okla.
2005 Valparaiso ..........Valparaiso (1) ....Valparaiso, Ind.
2006 Oral Roberts ....Oral Roberts (1) .Tulsa, Okla.
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2007 SDSU ................SDSU (1) ...........Fort Wayne, Ind.
2008 NDSU ................NDSU (1) ...........Tulsa, Okla.
2009 NDSU ................Fort Wayne (3) ... Fargo, N.D.
2010 Ft Wayne/NDSU ..NDSU (2) ...........Fargo, N.D.
2011 NDSU ................NDSU (1) ...........Fort Wayne, Ind.
2012 IUPUI ................Fort Wayne (2) ....Fargo, N.D.
2013 IUPUI ................IUPUI (1) ...........Indianapolis, Ind.
2014 Denver/IUPUI .....Denver (1) .........Indianapolis, Ind.
2015 Denver ..............Denver (1) .........Denver, Colo.
2016 Denver/USD .......Denver (1) .........Denver, Colo.
2017 Denver ..............Denver (1) .........Denver, Colo.
2018 Denver ..............South Dakota (2) Denver, Colo.
2019 South Dakota .....Denver (2) .........Denver, Colo.
2020 Denver ..............South Dakota (3) Sioux Falls, S.D.
2021 Omaha ..............South Dakota (2) Vermillion, S.D.
2022 ?.......................?........................Omaha, NE
In terms of trends, notice how the last four seasons's Summit tournaments have been marked by more chaos. To me, this points to more parity among the top-level teams rather than single-team dominance.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 1, 2022 11:25:36 GMT -5
Tuesday, November 1, 2022Away ......................Home .....................Time South Dakota...........North Dakota............7:00 P.M. South Dakota State...North Dakota State...7:00 P.M. Thursday, November 3, 2022Away ................Home ....................Time St. Thomas........South Dakota State..7:00 P.M. Kansas City........Omaha...................7:00 P.M. *free Stream* Oral Roberts.......Denver...................7:00 P.M. Western Illinois...South Dakota..........7:00 P.M. *free Stream* Saturday, November 5, 2022
Away .....................Home .....................Time Oral Roberts............Omaha...................12:30 P.M. *free Stream* Western Illinois........South Dakota State...1:00 P.M. North Dakota State...North Dakota...........4:00 P.M. Kansas City..............Denver....................4:00 P.M. St. Thomas..............South Dakota...........4:45 P.M. *free Stream* Summit League Schedule and Streaming LINKS
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 1, 2022 11:39:40 GMT -5
Recent streaming access development:
Midco Sports Network, a regional sports channel in the Dakotas and most of Minnesota, has picked up South Dakota, North Dakota and South Dakota State's streaming of non-televised games on its "MidcoSN+" digital service. This is a premium add-on to Midco cable, but it is also stand-alone. So people without Midco Cable can still subscribe to it (5.99 per month, cancel any time). USD Coyote sports are already streamed for free from GoYotes.com, but this would be a way to access premium content from UND and SDSU in one place and for one fee.
I think this is a pilot program for maybe an All-Summit digital subscription (for non-televised "third-tier rights" games) next year? If so, I like it. For now I won't be signing up.
But... some of these MidcoSN+ broadcasts maybe/could end up on ESPN+? maybe. I'll keep an eye on it.
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Post by kiyoat on Nov 1, 2022 19:25:47 GMT -5
……and USD@UND IS on ESPN+
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