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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jun 24, 2022 13:23:27 GMT -5
So? Their states won't be able to stop their residents from getting the pills by mail You keep saying this and it isn't true. Even if it were (and it's not), it's immoral to deny people the ability to control their own bodies. Have people lost the ability to "control their own bodies" or is that slight hyperbole?
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Post by ringostar on Jun 24, 2022 13:23:41 GMT -5
I just saw that, awesome! So now it's only rich republicans. Got it. Are you taking the same angle as the left takes with "voter suppression"? Only rich white people have drivers licenses, computers and can find transportation to vote. What? Don't confuse the issue. For the most part, only rich people will get abortions. Period. And let's just wait until states that outlaw abortions go after people for going to get them in another state. You KNOW that will happen next. Just the answer I was looking for. Rich white man holding the rest down. Can't believe it took this long to make it racist.
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Post by dizzydean on Jun 24, 2022 13:25:22 GMT -5
What? Don't confuse the issue. For the most part, only rich people will get abortions. Period. And let's just wait until states that outlaw abortions go after people for going to get them in another state. You KNOW that will happen next. Just the answer I was looking for. Rich white man holding the rest down. Can't believe it took this long to make it racist. I didn't say rich white men. I said rich people. Because I guarantee they'll still get abortions. It will be much more difficult for a poor person to find a way to travel out of state for an abortion.
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Post by ringostar on Jun 24, 2022 13:28:11 GMT -5
Just the answer I was looking for. Rich white man holding the rest down. Can't believe it took this long to make it racist. I didn't say rich white men. I said rich people. Because I guarantee they'll still get abortions. It will be much more difficult for a poor person to find a way to travel out of state for an abortion. Yea yea. I'm sure the percentage of abortions is dominated by rich people. Places like Planned Parenthood were set up to abort the rich. Or were they a racist structured organization using tax dollars to abort based on race?
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Post by donut on Jun 24, 2022 13:31:04 GMT -5
I have to wonder how much the people who protest the current packing of the court, would be protesting if THAT had happened. I mean, that means Garland wouldn’t have happened. And we wouldn’t have had a President who lost the popular vote appointing 3 justices in 4 years. We would have had a President who won the popular vote appointing 2 justices in 4 years. Entirely different case, isn’t it?
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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 24, 2022 13:31:47 GMT -5
You keep saying this and it isn't true. Even if it were (and it's not), it's immoral to deny people the ability to control their own bodies. Have people lost the ability to "control their own bodies" or is that slight hyperbole? A ban on contraception would certainly mean that. The overturning of Lawrence and Obergefell would, too.
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Post by dizzydean on Jun 24, 2022 13:33:50 GMT -5
I didn't say rich white men. I said rich people. Because I guarantee they'll still get abortions. It will be much more difficult for a poor person to find a way to travel out of state for an abortion. Yea yea. I'm sure the percentage of abortions is dominated by rich people. Places like Planned Parenthood were set up to abort the rich. Or were they a racist structured organization using tax dollars to abort based on race? Of course PP wasn't set up to specifically help the rich. I have no idea who gets more abortions, rich or poor. BUT NOW people in the states that outlaw abortion won't be able to go to planned parenthood in their state. Rich, or even middle class, people will.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 24, 2022 13:33:52 GMT -5
I have to wonder how much the people who protest the current packing of the court, would be protesting if THAT had happened. I mean, that means Garland wouldn’t have happened. And we wouldn’t have had a President who lost the popular vote appointing 3 justices in 4 years. We would have had a President who won the popular vote appointing 2 justices in 4 years. Entirely different case, isn’t it? Kennedy is almost certainly still on the court if HRC wins in 2016 (and 2020). It's why "vote harder" is such a f*cking stupid strategy. In order to overcome strategic retirements, dems would have to hold the presidency for 30 years in a row to regain a majority on a 9 justice court.
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Post by dizzydean on Jun 24, 2022 13:34:46 GMT -5
You keep saying this and it isn't true. Even if it were (and it's not), it's immoral to deny people the ability to control their own bodies. Have people lost the ability to "control their own bodies" or is that slight hyperbole? It's unrealistic is what it is. Plus as I said elsewhere, birth control doesn't always work. And then there's rape.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 24, 2022 13:34:53 GMT -5
Today's decision also paves the way for a federal abortion ban the moment republicans retake Congress and the presidency. So that's awesome.
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Post by cindra on Jun 24, 2022 13:49:15 GMT -5
If the right to an abortion is that important to you, put it in the constitution. That's the end of the discussion. It is in the constitution lmao
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 24, 2022 14:11:04 GMT -5
I have to wonder how much the people who protest the current packing of the court, would be protesting if THAT had happened. I mean, that means Garland wouldn’t have happened. And we wouldn’t have had a President who lost the popular vote appointing 3 justices in 4 years. We would have had a President who won the popular vote appointing 2 justices in 4 years. Entirely different case, isn’t it? Cry me a river, it didn’t happen so live with it.
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Post by ringostar on Jun 24, 2022 14:11:14 GMT -5
Yea yea. I'm sure the percentage of abortions is dominated by rich people. Places like Planned Parenthood were set up to abort the rich. Or were they a racist structured organization using tax dollars to abort based on race? Of course PP wasn't set up to specifically help the rich. I have no idea who gets more abortions, rich or poor. BUT NOW people in the states that outlaw abortion won't be able to go to planned parenthood in their state. Rich, or even middle class, people will. If they can't afford to go to another state to have an abortion (for free on taxpayer money), which I totally disagree with, are they going to be able to support the baby when born? Planned Parenthood (oxymoron) is free to the aborter. They basically can't pay for gas to get to their neighboring state that allows abortions?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 24, 2022 14:12:00 GMT -5
Today's decision also paves the way for a federal abortion ban the moment republicans retake Congress and the presidency. So that's awesome. Yes, babies are rejoicing everywhere. You know, the most vulnerable of our population we should be protecting.
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Post by ringostar on Jun 24, 2022 14:12:07 GMT -5
If the right to an abortion is that important to you, put it in the constitution. That's the end of the discussion. It is in the constitution lmao Not anymore
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